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Lakeside

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There is a diagram in the manual that details all the fan headers. They have very specific purposes. I just glanced at the diagram on the Asus site.

CPU and CPU Opt are at the top of the board just right of the CPU socket when the rear connectors are facing left. Main one is closest to board edge. They're are near a mount screw, and near the RAM sockets.
 
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i just assumed they were all the same since they look the same. Thanks all. I'm changing it now.

edit: changed it and everything is perfect now. thanks everyone
 
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DJ Lushious

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I moved my i7-3930k/ASUS Rampage IV formula into a new case tonight. The CPU temps were hitting over 85C, so I pulled my Corsair H60 AIO, cleaned the CPU lid and heat sink, applied Arctic Ceramique, and reseated the heat sink.

Now I get a POST code of 00; this means the computers not evening getting to POST.

I'm fucked, aren't I?

I pulled the Mobo out of the case, removed all but one stick of RAM, and same error code. Even tried removing the CMOS battery and used a different PSU.

That was one helluva expensive CPU. I hope I didn't fry it. I don't know what else to do or how to troubleshoot further. And I have to go to sleep, so I'm calling it for the night.
 

nikos

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My 2080 Ti preorder is somehow turning into a completely new build. I've already preordered a Phanteks Evolv X case.

Waiting on new Intel processors, Asus ROG Ryujin AIO CPU cooler, Asus ROG Thor PSU, and possibly these Z390 motherboards.

So much waiting going on right now. I guess it's technically a great time to upgrade though.
 

opticalmace

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My 2080 Ti preorder is somehow turning into a completely new build. I've already preordered a Phanteks Evolv X case.

Waiting on new Intel processors, Asus ROG Ryujin AIO CPU cooler, Asus ROG Thor PSU, and possibly these Z390 motherboards.

So much waiting going on right now. I guess it's technically a great time to upgrade though.
Sounds like a great build. Definitely gonna look cool. What 2080 Ti are you getting and what motherboard are you thinking about? I'm guessing one of the nice Asus boards. :P
 
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So one more question. I'd like to Overclock the 2600 i got. What do you think is doable with the included CPU fan? I didn't buy an extra one. It's at 3.4GHZ now. was hoping i could go to 4.0Ghz

I've never OCed so i really don't know what i can get away with.
 

nikos

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Sounds like a great build. Definitely gonna look cool. What 2080 Ti are you getting and what motherboard are you thinking about? I'm guessing one of the nice Asus boards. :P

I wasn't sure which 2080 Ti to go with on preorder day, so I preordered an Nvidia, Asus and EVGA. I'm going to keep the reference Nvidia card though. I want to cancel the other two but I'm waiting for some kind of shipping confirmation from Nvidia before doing so.

Haven't done much research on motherboards, but I was looking at the Asus Maximus X Hero. That being said, if I do wait for those other two Asus items, there's going to be a lot of Asus going on which will be a first for me. To be honest, I have gone with Gigabyte motherboards for as long as I can remember and have never had an issue.
 

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is the jump between 1080 and 1080Ti worth the price currently or nah

been thinking about getting a 1080Ti but man they are expensive.
 
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Figured it out, I had to format it in disc management. Thanks though.

One more question before I stop spamming this thread. Are these temps and voltages good? I monitored it while playing BFV for a while and this is the result, but I know nothing about voltage or anything so I don't know if this is alright.


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As Lakeside mentioned, while gaming, it doesn't look like you really maxed out the CPU to 100% usage. BUT, with that said, most games won't be putting all cores/threads at 100% use anyway. So, we can't guarantee that at 100% load your CPU won't be overheating, we can say that at least during a relatively standard gaming test, the CPU temps look totally fine.

The PSU is literally the same one Soda posted, although I'd prefer to not spend $160 on it and wouldn't mind bumping up the power since the computer does have a graphics card and an extra HD in it.

Not sure if this is a good enough photo:
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Basically, the 20-pin connector labeled "P1" in the center is the one plugged in to the motherboard, then there's two daisy chains of the one just to the left of the motherboard, which I think is the molex connector you mentioned. One of the daisy chains has two of those 4-pin connectors, the other has three, and they both end in that smaller bright white 4-pin connector (which goes in to the floppy drive on one of the chains.)

The square four pin connector just to the left of the ribbon cable and the 6(?) pin connector on the far left edge aren't connected to anything.

EDIT: Ok, I just found this page with pictures and names of the connectors. If that page is correct, I've got a 20+4 pin as the main power connector for the motherboard (with the +4 not being used,) two molex connector daisy chains, both which end with a floppy connector. Still not sure what that one on the far left is. This looks like it might do the trick (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817707005) but it doesn't mention the molex even though they are in the photos.

I think most modern PSUs will work 100% for your needs, but they may not have that 4-pin floppy connector. I think it's called a Berg connector. Some PSUs come with them, but a lot don't anymore. If the floppy drive isn't needed anymore, well, you could simply not plug it in. If you need it still, make sure whatever PSU you buy has a berg/floppy 4-pin connector.
 

I Don't Like

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The PSU is literally the same one Soda posted, although I'd prefer to not spend $160 on it and wouldn't mind bumping up the power since the computer does have a graphics card and an extra HD in it.

Not sure if this is a good enough photo:
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Basically, the 20-pin connector labeled "P1" in the center is the one plugged in to the motherboard, then there's two daisy chains of the one just to the left of the motherboard, which I think is the molex connector you mentioned. One of the daisy chains has two of those 4-pin connectors, the other has three, and they both end in that smaller bright white 4-pin connector (which goes in to the floppy drive on one of the chains.)

The square four pin connector just to the left of the ribbon cable and the 6(?) pin connector on the far left edge aren't connected to anything.

EDIT: Ok, I just found this page with pictures and names of the connectors. If that page is correct, I've got a 20+4 pin as the main power connector for the motherboard (with the +4 not being used,) two molex connector daisy chains, both which end with a floppy connector. Still not sure what that one on the far left is. This looks like it might do the trick (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817707005) but it doesn't mention the molex even though they are in the photos.

Molex has been used forever to power components so it'll have them. And yeah i was going to say absolutely do not spend $160 on that other PSU. $160 these days is premium price for a top PSU and that price is only there because yours is old and impossible to find. Your entire computer is probably worth about $160 lol.

What can that thing even do? I think it's time to upgrade breh.
 
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Molex has been used forever to power components so it'll have them. And yeah i was going to say absolutely do not spend $160 on that other PSU. $160 these days is premium price for a top PSU and that price is only there because yours is old and impossible to find. Your entire computer is probably worth about $160 lol.

What can that thing even do? I think it's time to upgrade breh.
LOL, if I spend $30 on a PSU, it'll double it's value. I always keep my old computers because I'm always scared I'll forget to transfer something important, and in this particular case, it's the only computer I have that has drivers for a particular scanner I use.
 

LucidMomentum

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Just waiting on all my new components to arrive. The wait is killing me ugh.

Got my IKEA Desk Special built in the meantime, it's really amazing compared to what local shops were selling.

My NCASE M1, Mobo, RAM, CPU, Heatsink, and Hard Drive arrive today supposedly and then my PSU arrives tomorrow. Already got my Noctua Redux fans.

I have the day off work tomorrow too which is great. However the build won't be done until I get the 2080 in.

Gives me plenty of time to route cable though, which is good since it's gonna be such a small case.
 

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I moved my i7-3930k/ASUS Rampage IV formula into a new case tonight. The CPU temps were hitting over 85C, so I pulled my Corsair H60 AIO, cleaned the CPU lid and heat sink, applied Arctic Ceramique, and reseated the heat sink.

Now I get a POST code of 00; this means the computers not evening getting to POST.

I'm fucked, aren't I?

I pulled the Mobo out of the case, removed all but one stick of RAM, and same error code. Even tried removing the CMOS battery and used a different PSU.

That was one helluva expensive CPU. I hope I didn't fry it. I don't know what else to do or how to troubleshoot further. And I have to go to sleep, so I'm calling it for the night.
I'm pretty certain my CPU is fried. This sucks beyond measure. I don't use my PC enough to justify a $1000+ upgrade and I just bought a GeForce 1080.

I think I'm going to have to scour for a used LGA2011 CPU. Either a 3930k or a 4930k.

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Am I going to get a kernel panic from Windows if I change CPU models? Looking at eBay I can get a 3960x for the price as a 3930k.
 
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AMD previously stated that the Ryzen 3000 series (7 nm) would release after the 7 nm Rome (Epyc aka server-level hardware) CPUs release.

...on the timing of the 7-nanometer Ryzen, I would just keep it as it's after the 7-nanometer EPYC. So we'll launch 7-nanometer EPYC first. I wouldn't say, it's very far out, but I would say it's after.

Well, today an analyst announced that he expects 7 nm Epyc chips won't release until 2H 2019.

We raise our 2019 EPS est and our price target following our meeting with management at our annual Chicago Summit. We have higher conviction that in 2H19, AMD will ship a server MPU with higher transistor density than INTC for the first time in recent history, if not ever. We see this as a foundational shift in competitive dynamics.

With this info combined, I think we can safely expect no Ryzen 3000-series CPUs until at least six months into 2019 (Q3 or as late as Q4). That's a loooong wait between the 2000 series (spring 2018) and the 3000 series (mid-summer to winter 2019).
 
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Dick Whitman

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Has anyone used NZXT's build service and coincidentally purchased an entire build through the same company?

Is there a general consensus on here regarding preferred CPU + GPU combos for 4K 60 fps gaming?

How much more powerful do we suspect that the RTX 2080 will be compared to the 1080 Ti? I've heard anywhere from 10% to 35%.
 

LucidMomentum

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I'm pretty certain my CPU is fried. This sucks beyond measure. I don't use my PC enough to justify a $1000+ upgrade and I just bought a GeForce 1080.

I think I'm going to have to scour for a used LGA2011 CPU. Either a 3930k or a 4930k.

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Am I going to get a kernel panic from Windows if I change CPU models? Looking at eBay I can get a 3960x for the price as a 3930k.

Sucks to hear that man.

But, you shouldn't - as long as the CPU fits the same socket and your mobo supports it you should be good.

However, Windows may make you reactivate because it's stupid when it comes to hardware changes.
 

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Random question for everyone. I have a 6800K overclocked to 4ghz. How much (if any) performance increase would I see with an 8700K? I just bought a 1080 Ti and I figured, hey, might as well go all the way. But if it's not going to be a big difference, maybe not worth it.
 

Darkstorne

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With this info combined, I think we can safely expect no Ryzen 3000-series CPUs until at least six months into 2019 (Q3 or as late as Q4). That's a loooong wait between the 2000 series (spring 2018) and the 3000 series (mid-summer to winter 2019).
I suppose it's long for CPUs? I think I'm conditioned by GPU gens now to think that anything fewer than 2 years between a gen is fine =P
 

His Majesty

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I'm doing a full core stress test right now. Max was 102°C. That's bad isn't it?
Yes.

Depends on what stress test you are running, the temperatures with e.g. Prime95 will usually be higher than you will experience but even still, 102 °C is far past what I deem to be acceptable. I try to stay below 80 °C at all times.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-1800828/intel-temperature-guide.html

Might want to look at a better CPU cooler and/or dial back your overclock.
 

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Sucks to hear that man.

But, you shouldn't - as long as the CPU fits the same socket and your mobo supports it you should be good.

However, Windows may make you reactivate because it's stupid when it comes to hardware changes.
I found a used 3960x on eBay for $100. I can't really argue with that price, plus it's an upgrade (albeit a minor one).

Right now the only PC game I'm playing is World of Warcraft and this rig tears through it effortlessly. With the 1080 I know I can do 4K @ 60fps, without question (I test drove a 1080, but then returned it due to falling prices), And 1080p @ 120fps seems just as doable (didn't try that).
 

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LOL, if I spend $30 on a PSU, it'll double it's value. I always keep my old computers because I'm always scared I'll forget to transfer something important, and in this particular case, it's the only computer I have that has drivers for a particular scanner I use.

Pretty sure you could install a VM and get the same result.

So after almost three years of planning (two and a half of having the computer built on the motherboard box and then in a partial case) I finally finished my computer build...

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Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Love custom builds.
 
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Sounds high.

What test, CPU, and cooling?

Yes.

Depends on what stress test you are running, the temperatures with e.g. Prime95 will usually be higher than you will experience but even still, 102 °C is far past what I deem to be acceptable. I try to stay below 80 °C at all times.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-1800828/intel-temperature-guide.html

Might want to look at a better CPU cooler and/or dial back your overclock.

My PC has its safety shut-off set at 83°. Yeah, 102°C is really high.

Used the stress test from the software from Asus for my motherboard. Called AI Suite 3. When I'm just browsing the web, it's at 40°C.

Edit: I have one more issue with my pc, but it's software. When I open the MS store it opens for a bit then shuts off before I can do anything. I've tried resetting the app but it didn't work. I think I might have to reinstall Windows.
 
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stillwrapped

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Well I'm a dingus and for some reason thought the heatsink would come with my processor.
So I need to run and get one. Pretty much anyone will do right? I5-8400 and I'm not overclocking anything.
 

shark97

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I'm pretty certain my CPU is fried. This sucks beyond measure. I don't use my PC enough to justify a $1000+ upgrade and I just bought a GeForce 1080.


$1000? Aren't there tons of amazing CPU's under $400, if not $200-ish, nowdays?

Shoot I built my current i5 6600K rig at exactly the wrong time seemingly a few years ago. Not too long after my build, the Ryzens came out and core counts shot through the roof. Not that it matters too much as games typically dont use a ton of cores and for my uses a solid 4 core is plenty.
 
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Well I'm a dingus and for some reason thought the heatsink would come with my processor.
So I need to run and get one. Pretty much anyone will do right? I5-8400 and I'm not overclocking anything.

The Cryorig H7 is solid for about $30. The be quiet! Pure Rock Slim or the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo are all great choices for the 8400 IMO.


That'd be fine wattage-wise, but I think that's an older unit that has pretty low efficiency. I might suggest something better qualtiy like the Corsair CX 2017-edition (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139201). It's $20 after a $20 rebate.
 

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Is it possible to use EVGA's Step Up program to side step within the same series? For example, would it be possible to go from a 2080 to a 2080 hybrid?

Edit: looks like no unfortunately.
 
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Keikaku

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$1000? Aren't there tons of amazing CPU's under $400, if not $200-ish, nowdays?

Shoot I built my current i5 6600K rig at exactly the wrong time seemingly a few years ago. Not too long after my build, the Ryzens came out and core counts shot through the roof. Not that it matters too much as games typically dont use a ton of cores and for my uses a solid 4 core is plenty.
Yeah $1000 for cpu+mb+ram is overkill when you can easily build a great ryzen combo for half the price.
 

Lakeside

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Used the stress test from the software from Asus for my motherboard. Called AI Suite 3. When I'm just browsing the web, it's at 40°C.

Edit: I have one more issue with my pc, but it's software. When I open the MS store it opens for a bit then shuts off before I can do anything. I've tried resetting the app but it didn't work. I think I might have to reinstall Windows.

I mean at 103C you are asking your motherboard to throttle your CPU to prevent damage. I'd go grab some different tools, as I think AI Suite is generally garbage and buggy. It definitely sounds like you have some enhancements and troubleshooting.

The browsing temp isn't of much use b/c the CPU is probably at 800MHz or something, with periodic momentary bursts.

Again, if you posted details about the hardware then I missed it. I just built an i3-8100 rig with Noctua L9i (good but small). Even with the latest AVX Prime95 running for hours I'm not breaking 75C in an tiny SFF case with no other fans.

On another note, hell it takes a long time to break down a PC for sale. I broke down my i7-4790K box, cleaned everything from dust bunnies (and 1 spider oddly enough).. Got every single piece part accounted for across the board, and got all the parts boxed up for Ebay (or BST). When I disassembled the WiFi antena from the ITX board, I didn't notice the little brass washers that were between the antenna female side and the rear motherboard I/O shield. Naturally one landed on my shirt or something, and followed me to another room where it fell on the carpet. I just spent like an hour looking for it. Was killing me that I wasn't going to be able to say "complete" when for sale.

I think I'll use my other FS box to secure wipe some drives and flash the firmware on a Blu-ray drive (so it can read UHD disks) before parting it out. I hate recycling hard drives because the secure wipe takes forever, so they stack up.. I think I have 5 to do.. maybe more.
 
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I'm feeling the itch to buy a new case.

Which is lunacy, of course, because my current case works fine.

But some cases are just so pretty...
 

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$1000? Aren't there tons of amazing CPU's under $400, if not $200-ish, nowdays?
There's no way I would go from a high-end CPU to anything less. So, I'd expect to go hexcore or more with hyper-threading, same as my i7-3930k

Yeah, $350-$450 would get you a mid-tier Ryzen or Intel CPU/MB/16 GB of RAM. Could even cut it down to 8 GB of RAM if the budget is really tight and upgrade to 16 GB down the road.
I made no compromises when I built my machine 6 years ago and it's lasted me this long. If I could, I'd go with replacement parts that could also carry my far into the future. And, as stated in a previous post, I really don't game on my PC, so it's all moot. WoW has been the one game I've played on my PC since Diablo 3 (though with many hours of DIablo 3).

Yeah $1000 for cpu+mb+ram is overkill when you can easily build a great ryzen combo for half the price.
Yeah, I'd go Ryzen, without a doubt. Here's what I priced out. I am open to suggestions, if nothing more than to learn what's out there.

$757 total

And that's not counting the $100 I just spent on an eVGA 1000w PSU, $300 for an eVGA 1080, and $40 for a Deepcool Matrexx55 case.

So, a used $100 i7-3960x seems like a much better option right now, considering I wasn't expecting to incur this expense.

For reference, here are the components I'd be replacing:

i7-3930k (well, before it fried)
ASUS Rampage IV Formula
16GB (4GBx2) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600
Corsair H60

And all of this is because I got suckered into playing WoW and was having great fun playing it on my 65" TV. >_<
 
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