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Fox pulls scene from 'The Predator' after director casts his pedophile friend in minor role
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I included pissing in public to highlight the difference in severity and why this is more than a simple equation of sex offender + time in jail = scot free.
You do get how the comparison was meant to illustrate how stupid the point you're trying to make is, right ? Not to mention that it's baseless since Black doesn't have a central kid figure in all his movies. There are none in Lethal Weapon or Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (which even has one of the main characters deliver his comeuppance to a guy who sexually molested his own daughter) and the kid in Last Boy Scout was a studio mandate, Black had originally written the film with a focus on the relationship between Hallenbeck and his wife which was deemed too similar to Die Hard once Willis got on board.
I do agree what I said was stupid, it wasn't serious to begin with. I've not watched kiss kiss bang bang, never been a fan of Shane Black's movies same goes for Iron Man 3 didn't like it, the kid sucks in that too. Any aged actor could have taken that role. Haven't seen The Predator, not sure if I will after this.
User Banned (1 Month): Downplaying sexual assault against a minor.
There was no sexual intercourse. Again not trying to defend his actions, just trying to put them in perspective. People seem to be looking at this from a very black and white lens.
Why is the entertainment industry above other forms of employment? The guy is an actor/writer. His skill set is literally designed for the entertainment industry, and that's presumably how he knows Shane Black. Why he's not allowed to work in the entertainment field and in your mind he could work some other, less glamorous job seems to be quite the double standard.
I don't understand why he needs to inform everyone that his friend is formerly a convicted pedophile. All that would do is dehumanize his friend and get him kicked out of the movie. This guy was in several of Shane Blacks previous films without incident. And the scenes from the Predator were already shot without incident.
What can an ex con do without having to divulge their past crimes? Can they buy a cup of coffee? Or should they tell the barista they are a convicted pedophile before they order?
This article from Yahoo seems to have the latest on who has or hasn't backed up Munn since this started.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment...-back-sex-offender-controversy-104541733.html
Just.. SMH. This is simple decency. I'm glad she spoke out but I'd wish she wasn't the sole voice doing so for so long.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment...-back-sex-offender-controversy-104541733.html
Just.. SMH. This is simple decency. I'm glad she spoke out but I'd wish she wasn't the sole voice doing so for so long.
Sexual assault doesn't necessarily mean rape and again, this isn't about simply an ex-con. Entertainment in general maybe too broad but I have a problem with him being in the spotlight, doubly so when he's hiding his transgressions from the rest of the cast. If he talked to the rest of the cast and they agreed to helping him is one thing, but not doing that is making them tacitly lay their reputations alongside his own. That's different from ordering a cup of coffee or getting a job that isn't so sought after and rare. Is that tough on him? Sure, but I think there are things that can't be completely forgiven and grooming, then assaulting a 14 year old isn't a particularly low threshold.
This is such a naive comment given if he informed anyone they would immediately kick him out of the film. Because society sees pedophile and immediately considers that person to be less than human. And your own reaction is a perfect example of that.
If they agreed to help him? He's a person doing a job. Why does he need other people to help him? If I get a job offer from the boss, do I need to ask every employee if it's okay that I work there?
And what about reputation? Is everyone that appeared in Baby Driver linked with Kevin Spacey crimes? This is total nonsense.
That's the point. They weren't given that option. Instead they were forced to work with a sex offender without knowing.
He needs people to help him, because he is a sex offender and I'm sure finding jobs is tough. And don't you try and compare him working a minor role in a film to someone working an actual job in another industry. In this specific job his coworkers have far more push than him, so yeah their agreement is needed.
Also this baby driver comparison is incredibly stupid. This guy was already convicted. Kevin Spacey was still hiding all his bullshit. There is a plausible deniability for the people in baby driver. But for this case? Nope, the stuff about being a sex offender was already public.
If you're a sex offender like that guy, then yea I would hope at bare minimum you would be open about to make sure no one else there uncomfortable. Because I'll say it again, he groomed and assaulted a 14 year old, tough shit if there are some burdens placed him on after that.
And they are absolutely helping him. Shane Black helped his friend by getting him that job, how are the actors not also doing that albeit unknowingly? They are not to blame if they didn't know but it's not unreasonable for them to be uncomfortable with it in retrospect, especially like Olivia Munn who has been open about her experience with sexual harassment. People working on a movie are tacitly trusting the people in charge, like the director to work in everyone's best interests, not just the buddy they are trying to sneak in.
If you hire someone to literally act in a scene where he hits on a woman and nothing more, that actress absolutely deserves to know.
No one gives a shit if he's legally obligated or not. That doesn't make it okay.
I would argue that the entertainment industry should differ in this regard because our society rightly or wrongly glorifies the industry and people in it. There is an allure, a mystique, an attraction to the industry and the people in it by most of the public, and children and teenagers are exceptionally impressionable to that allure.
If this guy has small parts in movies, it increases his allure (or rather, persuasion power - to avoid any unintended interpretations) and gives him more power to manipulate or influence the impressionable.
If the guy is working in an office or for the sanitation department, it doesn't exactly make him seem worthy of extra attention.
Goddamn, reading this thread over is fucking disturbing..
Fuck this guy, Munn did the right thing.
Fuck off with that nonsense. More concern for this sick fuck than the girl he messed with.
Especially having the paedo on set to shoot a scene like that. No shame at all.
Got me looking sideways at certain people here, defending this shit.
Fuck this guy, Munn did the right thing.
Seriously, all this malarkey about "he did his time, do you want him to never move on?".
Fuck off with that nonsense. More concern for this sick fuck than the girl he messed with.
Especially having the paedo on set to shoot a scene like that. No shame at all.
Got me looking sideways at certain people here, defending this shit.
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