Kopite

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flatearthpandas Fantomas

Going by your logic of scum ebing on opposing Day 1 lynches, why are we not pushing for a Zookfoodle/Include lynch based on the kits voters from Day1?

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zookfoodle - #890
muffin - #977
fantomas - #997
faddy - #998
girlofgotham - #1035
*splinter - #1191

Except for zookfoodle/Include, everyone else who voted Kits isn't mafia
 

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You can lynch for info, or you can lynch someone much more likely to be scum in Meatwad. He's dropped 2 late votes in defense of scum, and has generally been flying under the radar all game.

FEPs is pushing bad lunches IMO which is only adding to my scum read of him.
This was how I was feeling early on today, so if you can give some good reads on the two I'd like to hear them.
 
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Day 7 post counts:
dr. monkey: 65 faddy: 51 flatearthpandas: 48 nin: 38 fantomas: 31 kopite: 22 meatwad: 17 giant panda: 16 include: 12 extreme tactician: 9 pirate bae: 5 natiko: 1

Day 6:
Post Counts:
blargonaut: 68 fantomas: 55 faddy: 50 dr. monkey: 42 flatearthpandas: 36 ketkat: 26 kopite: 25 extreme tactician: 23 nin: 15 giant panda: 10 include: 10 meatwad: 8 natiko: 2 grizzly: 1 pirate bae: 1 trigger: 1 apopheniac: 1

Day 5:
Post Counts:
dr. monkey: 81 fantomas: 63 blargonaut: 54 faddy: 52 kitsunelaine: 50 girlofgotham: 48 flatearthpandas: 45 giant panda: 26 meatwad: 23 kopite: 20 stanleypalmtree: 17 apollo: 16 include: 13 b-dubs: 10 natiko: 9 ketkat: 6 nin: 4 gorlak: 4 pirate bae: 2

Day 4
dr. monkey: 90 flatearthpandas: 87 b-dubs: 80 blargonaut: 73 fantomas: 70 faddy: 70 girlofgotham: 49 kitsunelaine: 40 zeusy: 28stanleypalmtree: 27 gorlak: 20 ketkat: 18 nin: 17 giant panda: 16 kopite: 16 meatwad: 12 natiko: 12 apollo: 11 indy in the fridge: 10 include: 5 zookfoodle: 2 pirate bae: 2

Natiko Pirate Bae
Has Trigger been nudged? Why is this role even in the game right now??? It has literally been 2 weeks irl since this role has (barely) met the minimum post count.

Requesting modkill.
 

Kopite

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I've already laid out that on further inspection ET provides very little info for day 1, and day 1 info isn't as useful. The only good info it gives is yesterday's.

You can lynch for info, or you can lynch someone much more likely to be scum in Meatwad. He's dropped 2 late votes in defense of scum, and has generally been flying under the radar all game.

FEPs is pushing bad lunches IMO which is only adding to my scum read of him.
I only see the Monkey one, which is the other?
 
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He attempted to vote GoG on D5 over Blarg, it doesn't show up on the vote tool though because it was incorrectly formatted.
GoG was literally the soundest lynch on that day. I will forever take issue with that being a scum read. Blarg was the same shit he'd been all game and GoG, besides being the serial killer literally implicated by town-flip melon, had the role that really make Blarg's already shit neutral claim remarkably shit.
 
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But nin was on Day 1 and bailed as well?
Because bailing doesn't clear people?

Last minute votes are extremely important, that's why we purposefully build multiple wagons. Abstaining is a read. Riding a bandwagon and then changing up when the die is already cast is a read. Jumping onto scum when the conclusion is foregone. Jumping off of town. All of it. If your late minute vote is to do something worthless, I want to know why. How are you moving, what does it mean if you knew alignments beforehand? These votes are important.
 
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At the risk of sounding like a broken record, where is GP's meatwad read?

He was supposedly making it, bailed out to hack up some musty weak ass shade, and then disappeared again. Is it coming? T-t-t-t-today, Panda.
 

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Because bailing doesn't clear people?

Last minute votes are extremely important, that's why we purposefully build multiple wagons. Abstaining is a read. Riding a bandwagon and then changing up when the die is already cast is a read. Jumping onto scum when the conclusion is foregone. Jumping off of town. All of it. If your late minute vote is to do something worthless, I want to know why. How are you moving, what does it mean if you knew alignments beforehand? These votes are important.
Dude, you're excusing Include as being the scum representative on the Kits Day 1 vote because nin and meatwad were on it then bailed. I'm asking you why you're ignoring that nin bailed on the Exodus lynch as well?
 
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Dude, you're excusing Include as being the scum representative on the Kits Day 1 vote because nin and meatwad were on it then bailed. I'm asking you why you're ignoring that nin bailed on the Exodus lynch as well?
I'm not excusing Include. But Meatwad, Include, and Nin are about the same level of scummy to me right now. ET is doing a great job of emulating Kits in that I don't necessarily scumread but am not impressed at all (though I would lynch ET over Kits tbh) and he's more important to my read of the others than any of them individually are at this point.

Let's be clear, my town reads are GP and Fantomas only. GP lucked into his and Fantomas is the only one that I legitimately read as town right now. The rest of you all may as well be the last 1-3 scum. So yeah, I want whatever info I can get because all I see are weak reads.


I'm waiting for these great reads on Include and Meatwad. You had a good start but not there. I'm holding off going into it right now because I hope there's more coming. Someone has to do Nin as well.
 
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Not going to argue with mods. Not my hill to die on. Fuck this game for real though.

Unvote

We're approaching end of day though. Can everyone enter a lynch list?

Trigger > ET > Nin > Kopite > Fantomas > GP > Yours truly
 

Kopite

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I've read though more of meatwad and also Indy's posts. Not sure if I can do a full read like I did for Include but here's some scummy bits from meatwad. He's had a bunch of this sprinkled around.

He mentions he was on the Blarg train day 1:
Well for one thing D1 I was happy to lynch Blarg off of the island straight away, Dude was weird and non-towny from the jump. But FEP apparently thought it was better to lynch Exodus. Whoops. Now maybe that's an innocent mistake or maybe there's something more there.
looking at the voting tool he jump from Blarg to Kits and then settled on Exodus when that seemed to be the way the wind was blowing. Town switching from Blarg to exodus was scum's first major win this game so those votes need to be analyzed.

But looking back he doesn't really say that, he even seems to be defending Blarg at times:
My current thoughts on Blarg. Sure he could be scum and he is acting scummy but I have to wonder if it's good scum play to draw a bunch of attention to yourself and annoy the piss out of everyone to the point they want to lynch you day 1. I can't imagine that if Blarg is scum that his scum team would be very happy about that. Exodus noted blarg's actions seemed jesterous and I would have to agree since he seems like he wants to be annoying and the center of attention which are jester traits. If he's not Jester than I just don't know what his gameplan is because if he's town he isn't helping and if he's scum he's not helping them either. I guess we'll see what happens when he's lynched
And he's vote on Blarg came way after it was clear Blarg would survive.

Says he'll kill Melon even if she's town lol:
Honestly I don't care if Melon is town or what her reasoning at this point is. Making up a red check and leading us to lynch a fellow townie is scum as fuck

VOTE: melonrabbit

Says Blarg being neutral is functionally a town role, which it isn't, town tends to lynch survivors, one of the reasons we began trying to lynch Blarg again.
I guess he's claiming to be a Survivor, which is functionally a town role but I've played games before that treated it as neutral

Just like Include, he doesn't believe GP is protector.
My current suspicion is that Giant Panda is scum and FEP is not. I'd say it's unlikely they're on the same team given that Giant panda has already voted to lynch FEP. I don't buy his claim of being a three shot protector, seems awfully convenient especially since he claims to have used two shot already but there were only two nights without a kill and one night was because Melon jailed you and the other night because Faddy was revived. So it's awfully convenient for GP that we can't confirm he actually did anything.

There was also that time where he accidentally referered to himself as scum, but I can't find that post.

And he claims scum would tend to be low activity, not answering criticisms but he's kinda guilty of that himself.
Vote: Zeusy

Some scum like to try to fly under the radar by not being as active. So Zeusy's lack of activity makes it hard to get a good read on him which is probably what he wants
Which is scummy in and of itself

VOTE:Extreme Tactician
I think Extreme Tactician's absence speaks louder. At least Monkey has been in this thread answering all criticisms thrown at her. ET looks like he's trying to avoid the thread and lay low

And lastly there's that vote on ET. Sure he could have just been following town core, but why didn't he jump along with us to the Monkey lynch later?

Anyway, i'm good with lynching either Meatwad or Include today. I'll go with whoever GP and Fanto end up voting for.
 

Kopite

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I'm not excusing Include. But Meatwad, Include, and Nin are about the same level of scummy to me right now. ET is doing a great job of emulating Kits in that I don't necessarily scumread but am not impressed at all (though I would lynch ET over Kits tbh) and he's more important to my read of the others than any of them individually are at this point.

Let's be clear, my town reads are GP and Fantomas only. GP lucked into his and Fantomas is the only one that I legitimately read as town right now. The rest of you all may as well be the last 1-3 scum. So yeah, I want whatever info I can get because all I see are weak reads.


I'm waiting for these great reads on Include and Meatwad. You had a good start but not there. I'm holding off going into it right now because I hope there's more coming. Someone has to do Nin as well.
Why is Trigger more scummy to you than Include , from your own logic they should be just as likely to be scum as each other.
 
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Why is Trigger more scummy to you than Include , from your own logic they should be just as likely to be scum as each other.
I'll look at your Meatwad thing and respond in a minute, but that was GP's job.

Because there is definitely scum on Exodus and it isn't me or GP. With scum on the line, we didn't lynch Exodus by ourselves.

Vote: Kawl

Kawl, I need to hear from you two weeks ago.
 

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Fantomas Giant Panda
I may not be around for day end. I've posted up reads on Meatwad and Include and I think we should lynch one of them. I will go for the one you guys are going for. Considering feps appears to be becoming a little scummier and is constantly defending Meatwad I think I'd prefer Meatwad

Kawl
Talk to us, have you been following the game at all before joining in?
 

Kopite

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I'll look at your Meatwad thing and respond in a minute, but that was GP's job.

Because there is definitely scum on Exodus and it isn't me or GP. With scum on the line, we didn't lynch Exodus by ourselves.

Vote: Kawl

Kawl, I need to hear from you two weeks ago.
Everyone should be posting their reads, especially since I think he's likely to be scum
 

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We're approaching end of day though. Can everyone enter a lynch list?
Well, with the Meatwad read out there now from Kopite, I'd probably bump him up a bit. Still want to hear back from GP again though.

Hard for me to get a definitive order right now. I think it would be easier for me to do ok with lynch and not ok with lynch lists:


Ok With Lynch Today:
ET
Meatwad

Inbetween:
FEPs
Include
Nin

Not Ok With Lynch Today:
Kopite
GP
Me
Kawl (if we have a replacement now, let's at least give them a chance to play)
 
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I've read though more of meatwad and also Indy's posts. Not sure if I can do a full read like I did for Include but here's some scummy bits from meatwad. He's had a bunch of this sprinkled around.

He mentions he was on the Blarg train day 1:


But looking back he doesn't really say that, he even seems to be defending Blarg at times:

And he's vote on Blarg came way after it was clear Blarg would survive.
This is interesting. Most of what you posted seems to be an attack on me, but yeah, definitely not an instant attack on Blarg. Would like to hear response to this. I fucked up thinking something similar though and Fan called me out and I had to go back and read to see I was actually misreading. I had some evidence to back up that the feeling existed but I definitely remembered a day phase in the wrong direction.


Says he'll kill Melon even if she's town lol:


Says Blarg being neutral is functionally a town role, which it isn't, town tends to lynch survivors, one of the reasons we began trying to lynch Blarg again.
Again, I have also said several times that I would lynch Melon regardless and stand by it. I said this to Faddy last night as well. No regrets there. You have to expand the team for this to apply, though I realize I'm on it as well. Seems like a weird stance for the whole scum team to take though.


Just like Include, he doesn't believe GP is protector.
I challenged GP on it as well. Same place as I defended that I always read Blarg as scum, I had GP top of the scum list. I didn't even voting him, but then include and nin both did end up voting him. How is meatwad's shade overshadowing that???


There was also that time where he accidentally referered to himself as scum, but I can't find that post.
...

And he claims scum would tend to be low activity, not answering criticisms but he's kinda guilty of that himself.
Fair enough.

And lastly there's that vote on ET. Sure he could have just been following town core, but why didn't he jump along with us to the Monkey lynch later?
Following town core how??? Faddy was off when he put his vote down. Nin was off as well, not that he is town core. It was just Meatwad and Fan at that point. Town core was split. Faddy literally browbeat people into his vote. It worked out for the best but we need to remember that this was either an insanely sick read by Faddy explained like dogshit or it was luck which is effectively the same thing here. Fuck, Faddy even openly says he wants to finally get a lynch through because I'd been taunting him about it. Without knowing ET's alignment, it's hard to really read into Meatwad's alignment.[/quote]

Anyway, i'm good with lynching either Meatwad or Include today. I'll go with whoever GP and Fanto end up voting for.
Noted
 

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It was this, you were a part of the whole interaction actually:
D5 it was a choice between kill scummy Blarg or kill scummy GOG, I think GOG was the better option because if we didn't lynch her then there might have been 1 less of us here right now and we'd be that much closer to winning.


lol yeah, I meant losing. That's what happens when

I post when I just woke up



I mean do you have an actual read?

you're also out here calling out Fantomas and Giant Panda, wildy just pointing your finger in any direction that's convenient. Maybe we should be loooking closer at you FEP

Do it. I'm no hypocrite. Stop when you realize you're wasting your time
And I think that was the end of the exchange because then Meatwad was responding to me read on his D5 play.
 

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I meant to underline and italicize just winning but undid it wrong on the text, but still, it was just a flub and I read it as such but people keep bringing it up.
 

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Ah, yeah. Thanks for reminding me of that. That's why meatwad was on my list I quoted to you yesterday. I also remember he responded mad defensively to that as well and launched into attack and I commented on that as well.

Word, fan.
Yeah, I do think the reaction was kind of weird since I didn't take your vote too seriously at the time so I wasn't sure why he was defensive over it. And although I do feel it's maybe a bit flimsy to call that out as a scum tell, I do love the idea of a Freudian slip doing him in, so I guess I'll take it haha.
 

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Well, with GP and Kopite on the Meatwad vote now, I think I'll go ahead and put mine there too. Unless GP comes back with someone else as a target, I think that's where us three are likely to stay. I'm not going to be moving off unless one of them does.

Vote: Meatwad
 
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If Kawl hasn't checked in before 1 hour before end of day I'm going to raise some hell. I've spent the last few days bragging about raising hell with lukewarm results but this time I'm really serious this time.
 
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So opposition to meatwad is spread among various targets with 2.5 hours until day end.

Town core is not looking so strong. Scum smiling from replacement list.
 

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I did not even know trigger was in the game lol

Trigger > ET> Meatwad > include > Kopite > Fantomas > GP > nin
 

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Oh shit day end is tonight??

Yeah it will be either

ET or Meatwad.

Include self vote eh?
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He's been fake sheeping me pretty hard since he hit the game. Almost like he's my.... scum mate!

But seriously, no idea what to do with nin right now. He's fucking me up way more than anyone which might actually be good considering how dead this thread is. Part of me is just feeling like it's intentional ignoring kawl/indy/trigger.... but then part of me mostly just worries about today's lynch. At this rate, there's no exciting fights at the last minute.
 

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He's been fake sheeping me pretty hard since he hit the game. Almost like he's my.... scum mate!

But seriously, no idea what to do with nin right now. He's fucking me up way more than anyone which might actually be good considering how dead this thread is. Part of me is just feeling like it's intentional ignoring kawl/indy/trigger.... but then part of me mostly just worries about today's lynch. At this rate, there's no exciting fights at the last minute.


Aw here, thing that just gives me a good feeling is that you were effin everyone up ehila kinda trusting me while also ignoring me with a coos feeling. Monkey did that with a very hard undertone. She ignored me or did not interact with me in any way besides voting for me.

You showing your teeth at others just gave me a certain town feeling.
Not sure how to put it
 

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I opened up like a beautiful flower.
Unsure if I should sign up.
Got into the replacement list.
Got called in.
Unsure if I should even post.
Did not even hit the minimum amount of post at the beginning.
People wanted me dead
The fire in me started
I started playing
And now I am just enjoying the game and having a ton of fun while also hunting scum.

This is truly a good timeline