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Long story short, I went to a hospital after meeting with a case worker and a doctor who specializes in Autism said that, in his professional opinion, I displayed symptoms of the spectrum, what would have been called Asperger's Syndrome.

I don't know how to feel. It's terrible to say that I'm disappointed or mad about it, but I don't know how to articulate how I feel. Like I have a big label on my forehead now and I'll never be normal.

I guess I'm just trying to figure out what this means.
 

Kthulhu

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Welcome to being neurodiverse. Don't put that you have ASD on your resume.

I also don't recommend telling people you don't know well, they will treat you different.

Edit: also, don't let anyone tell you that you aren't normal.
 

Calderc

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Whatever it is or wherever you fall on the spectrum, it doesn't (and you shouldn't let it) define you.
 

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You shouldn't be thinking you're not "normal." You should be relieved that there is a name to put to how you think and feel and that means that there are many, many people out there who think and feel just like you. That's more normal than anything.
 
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What prompted the original trip to the hospital?

I had met with a case worker wrt a mood disorder clinic at the hospital I went to and she did a little questionaire for me where she said it was a possibility, then we booked an appoint

Life just goes on, you've done fine so far haven't you

Not really. I'm an unemployed loser with a degree that I have no skill in.

What symptoms were you displaying? If you don't mind saying.

It was stuff like difficulty communicating, forming and maintaing relationships, reading body language. That kind of thing.
 

More_Badass

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I was diagnosed with Asperger's a few years ago (I'm 26 now) and for me, it was like the final piece clicking into the jigsaw puzzle. I had been dealing with depression for a while especially since I was on campus and surrounded by peers with friends while I was always asking myself why it was so easy for them and not for me. Now I had a name and understanding for why I'm the way I am; it was something tangible, that could be understood.

I don't know if it's of any help, but don't think if it as you not being "normal". It doesn't mean you're not normal or need to be fixed. Everyone has their quirks and ways of processing things. Having a diagnosis gives you a definition, something to understand. It gives you a better understanding of yourself
 
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jb1234

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It doesn't really change much, OP (speaking as someone who also has Aspergers), especially since you were diagnosed as an adult. Just keep doing what you're doing. If you're struggling with the obsessive elements that come with it, therapy (especially CBT) might help.

Mood disorders are extremely common. I've been struggling with depression all of my life, especially related to social isolation.
 

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My diagnosis was a "finally I make sense" moment. I wish I had been diagnosed years ago. It might have spared me years of depression about how I was wired wrong.
 

Ketkat

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A diagnosis doesn't change who you are as a person. You're still the same person that you were yesterday, and you'll still be you tomorrow. A diagnosis will just let you understand what's going on in your life, why you struggle with certain aspects, and to understand and find coping mechanisms that will help you succeed. It's not a negative label that has to control you either, its just a small part of who you are.
 
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I think it's a pretty standard thing to be unable (or unsure) to process being suspected (or diagnosed) of being on the spectrum.

Personally, I came to terms with a childhood diagnosis (after a number of years) largely by understanding that it doesn't 'define' you or mean you're not 'normal', it's just simply one aspect of your character and provides access to resources to help you build on some areas which you may struggle with.

EDIT: Also just a heads up that there is the Autism OT: https://www.resetera.com/posts/2725310/
 

Threadkular

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First, get it out of your mind that you're not normal. That's false whether you are on the spectrum or not.

I'd do some Googling about others who've been told late in life that they may be on the spectrum (likely Asperger's). A lot of people find it freeing.

I think science has just begun to understand the autism spectrum. I wouldn't be surprised if in my life I will have deep regrets about how I treated (or even just thought) about people on the spectrum as we learn more and evolve.

And diagnoses aren't always right. I lived my whole life being told I was "depressed". My father had depression and I was told have depression. It's only until my recent therapist that I realized my anxiety has probably been even worse my whole life (I just thought it was normal for your brain to feel like it's spinning out of control), and then my father finally decided to share with me that addiction runs in our family (of course it skipped him though :P).
 

liquidtmd

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As difficult and trite as this may sound, do not let the diagnosis define the value you place on yourself as a person.

You call yourself a 'loser'. That implies you've got some not great self esteem issues. Bit by bit, before you can tackle the diagnosis news you've received, you've got to try and tackle strategies to reclaim this and feel better with the view you have of yourself.

Sending positives to you.

What do you enjoy doing?
 

More_Badass

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My diagnosis was a "finally I make sense" moment. I wish I had been diagnosed years ago. It might have spared me years of depression about how I was wired wrong.
Same here. I had been so resistant to seeing a therapist, and my mom had even tried to convince me years ago. But I felt like if I learned I was on the spectrum, it would mean there was something wrong with me.

But it was the exact opposite. Suddenly so many aspects of personality, my quirks, the way I thought about things and did things, made so much sense. It was like, oh that's why I'm like that. I wish I had been diagnosed so much earlier
 
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A diagnosis doesn't change who you are as a person. You're still the same person that you were yesterday, and you'll still be you tomorrow. A diagnosis will just let you understand what's going on in your life, why you struggle with certain aspects, and to understand and find coping mechanisms that will help you succeed. It's not a negative label that has to control you either, its just a small part of who you are.
I was trying to think of what to post but this pretty much sums it up perfectly.
 

Tahnit

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Welcome to being neurodiverse. Don't put that you have ASD on your resume.

I also don't recommend telling people you don't know well, they will treat you different.

Edit: also, don't let anyone tell you that you aren't normal.
Nah fuck that noise. You are who you are. As someone with aspergers you need to let people know why you are the way you are. But don't apologize for it just give them a heads up.
 

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Also fellow autie. Been diagnosed since I was 10, but have been so mum about it for most of my life that I'm still very much in that closet.

I'm not entirely sure what to add since what autism means to any one autie is different. But most adult diagnoses begin to understand their life better with their late diagnosis, where a hundred disparate differences now make more sense with autism as a running theme. So, I guess what I'm saying is, I hope this might help you better understand yourself.
 

Bionic

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You're the same exact person you were before they told you that. A diagnosis is not a prognosis, it is not a curse, it is not a fact about you. It is a diagnostic result that is subjective based on who you're assessed by, when, etc., and it can change over time and as you change.

If having the diagnosis lets you access services you otherwise wouldn't have available to you, or if it explains something to you that helps you in your life, then that's great. If not, then take it as one data point, not the only data point, and move forward the best way you can.
 

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Not really. I'm an unemployed loser with a degree that I have no skill in.


It was stuff like difficulty communicating, forming and maintaing relationships, reading body language. That kind of thing.

Minus the unemployed this sounds a lot like me.
Huh.

I'll never look into this myself, good luck OP.
 

Dyle

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Don't let it bother you too much, it's been a part of your character your whole life, the only difference is that you now have a name for it. It's an opportunity to move forward because you can now recognize more clearly what it is you struggle with, can express that struggle to others, and can take steps to work around the challenges you face. It may sound rough, but really it's a chance to stake a new, stronger claim on your identity and life and to make those frustrating or cumbersome parts of your mind/personality work for you, rather than fight against you.
 
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Don't let it bother you too much, it's been a part of your character your whole life, the only difference is that you now have a name for it. It's an opportunity to move forward because you can now recognize more clearly what it is you struggle with, can express that struggle to others, and can take steps to work around the challenges you face. It may sound rough, but really it's a chance to stake a new, stronger claim on your identity and life and to make those frustrating or cumbersome parts of your mind/personality work for you, rather than fight against you.

I guess the way I saw it is that all the problems I had were things I thought I could work on. What if this means I'm like this forever?

How would one manage to gain a degree in something but have no skill in said field?

Sorry, I meant to say diploma. I went into computer programming at my college, had to retake a year's worth of courses, and struggled basically the entire time because I was too afraid to drop out again and change direction since I had done that before. The only thing I was really decent at was SQL programming.
 

PopsMaellard

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I had met with a case worker wrt a mood disorder clinic at the hospital I went to and she did a little questionaire for me where she said it was a possibility, then we booked an appoint



Not really. I'm an unemployed loser with a degree that I have no skill in.



It was stuff like difficulty communicating, forming and maintaing relationships, reading body language. That kind of thing.

What degree?

It's going to be okay OP. You're still you, and knowing more about your mental health is important.
 

Kolya

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I guess the way I saw it is that all the problems I had were things I thought I could work on. What if this means I'm like this forever?

Just because you have a diagnosis of ASD does not mean you are stuck that way. Yes, it is harder to overcome things that generally people don't suffer too much with but they are solvable problems. (To an extent, I don't want to imply you can 'fix' all the issues in life)
 

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I guess the way I saw it is that all the problems I had were things I thought I could work on. What if this means I'm like this forever?

Over the years I've come to think of Aspergers not as THE problem, but as an umbrella of problems. You can't 'fix' Aspergers, but you can tackle individual problems that you experience because of it.
 

KujoJosuke

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It's not the same thing but I spent the first 30 years of my life barely able to function at home or out, violent outbursts, unable to care for myself, no anti-depressants working for any significant amount of time, constant med changes.

2 years ago my psychiatrist was like "why don't we start treating you as having Bipolar" and I was like "yeah maybe that's the problem", now I'm on the right meds and I have a job, trying out the dating world, my mood is nice and even instead of wildly fluctuating.

Sometimes it takes a "you have -this- and we need to treat it" moment to finally get your head above water.
 
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It's not the same thing but I spent the first 30 years of my life barely able to function at home or out, violent outbursts, unable to care for myself, no anti-depressants working for any significant amount of time, constant med changes.

2 years ago my psychiatrist was like "why don't we start treating you as having Bipolar" and I was like "yeah maybe that's the problem", now I'm on the right meds and I have a job, trying out the dating world, my mood is nice and even instead of wildly fluctuating.

Sometimes it takes a "you have -this- and we need to treat it" moment to finally get your head above water.

Is there a treatment for ASD? Like I'm on medication for chronic depression and generalized anxiety disorder and I've been told I'm a completely different, healthier person with them than when I'm off.
 

gerg

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I guess the way I saw it is that all the problems I had were things I thought I could work on. What if this means I'm like this forever?

With or without getting this diagnosis your capacity to adapt or overcome the issues you may face communicating would be the same. Now, however, you have a framework within which you might more clearly understand how you face the difficulties you do, one which might help you feel more compassionate towards yourself for facing them, and which can be helpful to others in understanding them as well.

Is there a treatment for ASD? Like I'm on medication for chronic depression and generalized anxiety disorder and I've been told I'm a completely different, healthier person with them than when I'm off.

As far as I'm aware there isn't any medication for ASD.
 

Kolya

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Is there a treatment for ASD? Like I'm on medication for chronic depression and generalized anxiety disorder and I've been told I'm a completely different, healthier person with them than when I'm off.

No, there is no 'cure'. It is who you are. NewDust said it better than I could, you can solve/improve certain issues but not ASD itself.
 

collige

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You're the same you OP. The diagnosis is just a new lens that you can use to parse the world through. If you're on Twitter, I would recommend checking out the #ActuallyAustistic hashtag.

I guess the way I saw it is that all the problems I had were things I thought I could work on. What if this means I'm like this forever?
You can still work on them, the difference is that now the "why" and "how" of it have a more concrete answer.
It's not the same thing but I spent the first 30 years of my life barely able to function at home or out, violent outbursts, unable to care for myself, no anti-depressants working for any significant amount of time, constant med changes.

2 years ago my psychiatrist was like "why don't we start treating you as having Bipolar" and I was like "yeah maybe that's the problem", now I'm on the right meds and I have a job, trying out the dating world, my mood is nice and even instead of wildly fluctuating.

Sometimes it takes a "you have -this- and we need to treat it" moment to finally get your head above water.
Big difference here is that there's no anti-austim meds.
 

KujoJosuke

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You're the same you OP. The diagnosis is just a new lens that you can use to parse the world through. If you're on Twitter, I would recommend checking out the #ActuallyAustistic hashtag.


You can still work on them, the difference is that now the "why" and "how" of it have a more concrete answer.

Big difference here is that there's no anti-austim meds.

It wasn't just the meds, I was in therapy too. That was a big part of it.

Learning to confront your brain and its worst tendencies is something that can be applicable to both an autistic person AND someone who is bipolar.
 

Prax

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I am very likely on the spectrum (more high functioning/aspergers) and it seems to run in my family with at least one nephew officially diagnosed.

I am highly educated but I just stock shelves because it suits my level of comfort (avoids heavy social interaction haha). I think along with anxiety meds/coping strategies (most people with autism will need some sort of treatment for anxiety) and the right environment that matches your energy level, you can do fine. You will likely need to focus on training yourself with basic social skills and memorization/learning techniques that suit you. I think your brain is just developed differently so you have to reverse engineer what "normal" people already learn naturally. It takes time, but it gets easier the more you do.

I mean, I think i'm great. I managed to get married and earn a living. So it won't necessarily stop you from being an awesome person.
 

Kthulhu

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Nah fuck that noise. You are who you are. As someone with aspergers you need to let people know why you are the way you are. But don't apologize for it just give them a heads up.

I'm just echoing my personal experience. Unless you're surrounded by sympathetic people then others are going to judge you, regardless of your ability to pass as neurotypical.
 

collige

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It wasn't just the meds, I was in therapy too. That was a big part of it.

Learning to confront your brain and its worst tendencies is something that can be applicable to both an autistic person AND someone who is bipolar.
Yeah, but your post was almost entirely about the medical treatments, which isn't applicable here. OP should absolutely find a therapist who knows how to treat austistic people if he has the resources.
 

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Long story short, I went to a hospital after meeting with a case worker and a doctor who specializes in Autism said that, in his professional opinion, I displayed symptoms of the spectrum, what would have been called Asperger's Syndrome.

I don't know how to feel. It's terrible to say that I'm disappointed or mad about it, but I don't know how to articulate how I feel. Like I have a big label on my forehead now and I'll never be normal.

I guess I'm just trying to figure out what this means.
I think that's good. You got a diagnosis that could help you in the future.

Being in the spectrum doesn't mean that you're a lesser person in any way.
 

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Yeah, a shrink floated that possibility by me as well. No official diagnosis (and trying to find a place that does adult autism screening on Medicaid has been a chore), so it's still in that uncertainty area. The fact that none of the previous therapists I've seen mentioned it makes me skeptical. Plus, in the internet/nerd/video game/CS community it feels kind of cliche/omnipresent. Everyone in the community has some difficulties with social interaction, so it's hard to think that I'm far enough outside the norm to merit a diagnosis.

I'm also skeptical that this revelation will help with my actual problems. I've been seeing psychiatrists for the better part of a decade due to depression and lack of focus, and those are the issues that are causing real concerns in my life. I can't hold down a job, I can barely take care of myself. Previous therapists have had me focus more on my interpersonal struggles, and that barely helped with those and didn't help at all at work. On some level I could see getting autism treatment helping in the long term (they say that something something interpersonal relationships something something eventually helps somehow), but I just don't believe it, and even if I did it feels so indirect and long-term...

Anyway, I'll also go ahead and disagree with everyone else in the thread: you're very likely not normal. I know I hate when people bullshit me about that sort of thing. Accurate descriptions aren't always helpful (and can be outright harmful: I have problems with self-blame, and while said blame is often accurate, my response to it rarely helps resolve the problems it's created/prevent me from repeating the mistake), but I know I don't have it in me to delude myself, so I'll treat you like I want to be treated. Even without an autism diagnosis it sounds like you'd still be not normal, though. The vast majority of people are able to hold down a job: sounds like you've had struggles with that? Again, same here. Whether that gets attributed to autism or depression or anxiety or whatever: something is different about you, and it's impacting your life in a negative way. You're not just not normal: Michael Phelps was abnormal in a good way. But in your case, something is wrong, and you need to try to fix it.

I'd love to promise you it'll get better, but again: I can't stand that bullshit when people say it to me, and the fact of the matter is for some people it never will. But I can tell you that it might get better. And your best odds of it getting better are to follow your doctors' recommendations. Modern medicine doesn't work all the time, but it's literally the best idea anyone on the planet has.
 

More_Badass

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Yeah, a shrink floated that possibility by me as well. No official diagnosis (and trying to find a place that does adult autism screening on Medicaid has been a chore), so it's still in that uncertainty area. The fact that none of the previous therapists I've seen mentioned it makes me skeptical. Plus, in the internet/nerd/video game/CS community it feels kind of cliche/omnipresent. Everyone in the community has some difficulties with social interaction, so it's hard to think that I'm far enough outside the norm to merit a diagnosis.

I'm also skeptical that this revelation will help with my actual problems. I've been seeing psychiatrists for the better part of a decade due to depression and lack of focus, and those are the issues that are causing real concerns in my life. I can't hold down a job, I can barely take care of myself. Previous therapists have had me focus more on my interpersonal struggles, and that barely helped with those and didn't help at all at work. On some level I could see getting autism treatment helping in the long term (they say that something something interpersonal relationships something something eventually helps somehow), but I just don't believe it, and even if I did it feels so indirect and long-term...

Anyway, I'll also go ahead and disagree with everyone else in the thread: you're very likely not normal. I know I hat e when people bullshit me about that sort of thing. Accurate descriptions aren't always helpful (and can be outright harmful: I have problems with self-blame, and while said blame is often accurate, my response to it rarely helps resolve the problems it's created/prevent me from repeating the mistake), but I know I don't have it in me to delude myself, so I'll treat you like I want to be treated. Even without an autism diagnosis it sounds like you'd still be not normal, though. The vast majority of people are able to hold down a job: sounds like you've had struggles with that? Again, same here. Whether that gets attributed to autism or depression or anxiety or whatever: something is different about you, and it's impacting your life in a negative way. You're not just not normal: Michael Phelps was abnormal in a good way. But in your case, something is wrong, and you need to try to fix it.

I'd love to promise you it'll get better, but again: I can't stand that bullshit when people say it to me, and the fact of the matter is for some people it never will. But I can tell you that it might get better. And your best odds of it getting better are to follow your doctors' recommendations. Modern medicine doesn't work all the time, but it's literally the best idea anyone on the planet has.
People aren't bullshitting about that. Being on the spectrum isn't like having depression; it's not something that medicine can "fix". I know I experienced it, as have others here, but learning you're on the spectrum can be like learning there's a name for something you always knew existed but didn't know what it was called. The struggles, personality quirks, thought process, etc you have suddenly make sense. Being on the spectrum doesn't mean you're broken or not normal; there's nothing to fix. It's who you are, now with better understanding why you're like that
 

KujoJosuke

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Yeah, but your post was almost entirely about the medical treatments, which isn't applicable here. OP should absolutely find a therapist who knows how to treat austistic people if he has the resources.

Well I was hoping my post would be more about how it's never too late to discover a diagnosis, even if it's sprung on you in your 20s or 30s. You can still get by. Don't give up.
 
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Yeah, but your post was almost entirely about the medical treatments, which isn't applicable here. OP should absolutely find a therapist who knows how to treat austistic people if he has the resources.

It involves driving an hour to reach them but I do have an in with the Autism clinic at the hospital I went to. My psychiatrist is retiring and there's nothing around me.
 

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You're not any different than you were a day or a week or even a year ago OP. It's nothing at all to be ashamed of, and being aware of it now can only help you. Even if you did think it was something to be ashamed of on some level, if you're just finding out about it now you're probably high functioning enough for others not to notice unless you tell them.
 

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welcome to the club.

few years ago everything starting making sense why I was the way I was growing up and now, surprised my family did not care enough and try to get me evaluated back then.