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Magic: the Gathering |OT| Guilds of Ravnica - We built this city on blocks of gold
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I think it's because doesn't say "when it enters the battlefield". So it's not a trigger that occurs when its already on the battlefield. I think if you were to "cast" the card from your graveyard it would be different because its last position would be the stack.
Lots of questions answered with those official notes.
Enhanced Surveillance does indeed turn Surveil 1 into Surveil 3. Surveil 2 into Surveil 4 etc.
Dimic Spybug only gets one +1/+1 counter per Surveil instance. Meaning only 1 counter regardless of the number of cards Surveiled. You can use Doom Whisperer to pay 2 life per counter though if you want.
Charnel Troll can use its mana ability to discard a creature after untap step, then Exile it with trigger during upkeep. Slick way to get 2 counters on it if graveyard was empty.
Enhanced Surveillance does indeed turn Surveil 1 into Surveil 3. Surveil 2 into Surveil 4 etc.
Dimic Spybug only gets one +1/+1 counter per Surveil instance. Meaning only 1 counter regardless of the number of cards Surveiled. You can use Doom Whisperer to pay 2 life per counter though if you want.
Charnel Troll can use its mana ability to discard a creature after untap step, then Exile it with trigger during upkeep. Slick way to get 2 counters on it if graveyard was empty.
I hate Charnel Troll so much. "Oh, let's print a Golgari rare that makes the Golgari mechanic worse!"
Charnel Troll just isn't good enough for the downside. Maybe if it was a "does not untap" clause like Grimgrin instead of a self-sacrifice clause. Something you can play around that creates useful interactions and not just a linear "big dumb beater eats your card advantage to get bigger and dumber so it can go minus a billion when it eats it to removal".
Eh, I think there's some strong synergy there with all the other cards you should be playing. It works against other cards of course, but still it seems like a strong beater to help close the game.
Eh maybe, but there are ways to feed the graveyard. Stitchers supplier and Surveil can fill it quickly. I don't think it hurts Undergrowth that much, in fact, Undergrowth is so undercooked it's probably better to run a different strategy anyway. Troll isn't anything amazing, but has fun casual play potential. With a go wide strategy and Might of the Masses he could be swinging large very quickly.
Rakdos allies with no one, not even Rakdos. They're the ICP of the Magic world.
Probably Simic is with him. He has been dipping his toes into eugenics recently.
Probably Simic is with him. He has been dipping his toes into eugenics recently.
The common theory is that Orzhov, Azorious, and Gruul will be Bolas-aligned and Rakdos and Simic will be against Bolas. This would be color balanced, so you wouldn't have a single color with three or more Planeswalkers in the two Ravnica sets.
The question should be "Which 'walkers would ally with Bolas, and fit thematically with the goals of the guilds?"
Dovin Baan makes a lot of sense as usurping control of the Azorious after the murder of Isperia.
Dovin Baan makes a lot of sense as usurping control of the Azorious after the murder of Isperia.
Auras were never, ever good until the day when they found the right spot. It'll be the same thing with punisher cards. I think it's pretty clear this is the most pushed one yet, and while it still may not be pushed enough, it can't be dismissed based on history alone.
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From the cards, we can see the same Gruul riot on three different cards, meaning it must be important, and thus, they're probably connected to Bolas.
And the Azorius leader is assassinated, meaning Bolas must be placing a puppet in control.
And it's been built up for a while that Teysa will use Kaya to assassinate the Orzhov Ghost Council, which likely leads directly to Bolas control.
And the Azorius leader is assassinated, meaning Bolas must be placing a puppet in control.
And it's been built up for a while that Teysa will use Kaya to assassinate the Orzhov Ghost Council, which likely leads directly to Bolas control.
Gruul having a riot is just everyday Gruul stuff, though.
I mean I'm not saying they wouldn't ally with Bolas, they're some real sad sacks and will probably throw in with anyone who gives them a head pat. Just that their Facebook Status is always set to Rioting.
I mean I'm not saying they wouldn't ally with Bolas, they're some real sad sacks and will probably throw in with anyone who gives them a head pat. Just that their Facebook Status is always set to Rioting.
Oh.
Great.
A boat-load of people get to start off with my personal least favourite card in the game.
Even though I'm getting one as well, can I just trade it in for a card that's actually fun please?
No.
You'll play thirty minute control mirrors and you'll love it.
(My solution with Duels was always just to play Ultra Aggro because in a non-tournament environment getting more games in honestly trumps winrate, making Control pretty shit.)
I'll trade it in for a mandatory 4x in any Red deck I ever run if it means I never have to see it again.
either way Domri being mentioned on a card means he's pretty much a lock and MaRo said all PWs in this one and the next ravnica set are aligned w/ Bolas along w/ their guilds.
If Teferi doesn't warp the whole Standard meta it will be a miracle. I don't see how anyone can deckbuild without warping their deck to deal with him.
I don't follow the Magic story at all but how the hell do you assassinate ghosts
How do people teleport between Planes?
How do dragons fly with with so much mass and relatively small wings.
How do 15 squirrels kill Emrakul?
Is Cryptic Command balanced?
You just roll with it.
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Right in the name.
Wizards will now provide booster packs and such for sale online through Walmart and other stores, and you can purchase Guilds of Ravnica: Masterpiece Edition through Channel Fireball to be picked up at a Grand Prix.
Alright, some actual huge news: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/experimentation-2018-09-21
-They are creating formal distribution channels with Amazon, Target, and Walmart- you will now be able to buy booster boxes shipped and sold by Amazon, Target and Walmart
-They are going to be offereing Mythic Edition boxes at all CFB-run GPs
-LGS are dead They are going to continue Spellbooks, early box release, and develop new stuff for stores. THEY ARE ALSO RE-DESIGNING TOURNAMENT SOFTWARE
-They are creating formal distribution channels with Amazon, Target, and Walmart- you will now be able to buy booster boxes shipped and sold by Amazon, Target and Walmart
-They are going to be offereing Mythic Edition boxes at all CFB-run GPs
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Wow, pretty crazy change in tactics here. LGS's get fucked. Wizard's are looking at short term monetary gain and long term attrition in the community.
I don't buy into this. Growth for Wizards is growth for LGSs. If anything, it's short term pain for them. You still need to use them to actually play at any kind of competitive level, which will mean they'll be just as packed. If selling on Amazon gets more people invested, then that's good for them. I've got about ten friends who play MtG at varying levels. Four of them would refuse to step foot in an LGS for whatever reason. If they can buy cards on Amazon, they'll get more invested in MtG and perhaps eventually make that jump. That's not gonna happen for sure if they don't buy cards in the first place.
Seems like the biggest hit will be to places like CFB who have free reign on Amazon sales at the moment. They have compition on that front now.
Gerry Thompson is boycotting Worlds
He's loosing a lot of money doing this
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/9hqyav/im_gerry_thompson_a_professional_magic_player_and/
He's loosing a lot of money doing this
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/9hqyav/im_gerry_thompson_a_professional_magic_player_and/
Well, it's hard to predict how it will impact everything. Maybe you're right. I still think it's a risky gamble. My personal LGS should be fine. FNM is usually 50-70 people with 30-40 for Modern, 10+ for Legacy and Standard is lucky to fire, but this is uncommon for most stores.
Got to give him a hand for taking the free flight and room for the week before posting this.
1) As I write this, I'm sitting in my Las Vegas hotel room, waiting for the tournament to happen. We had to show up on Tuesday despite most of us having no commitments until midday Thursday. Decklists were due Tuesday, which basically meant Monday because of the forced travel on Tuesday. Plus, that information was communicated very late, which threw off many of the competitor's plans.
Leading up to Worlds, we were spammed with nine emails of varying importance. Buried in one of those (rather lengthy) emails was a small paragraph about needing to RSVP by a certain deadline if you wanted to have a +1, which lead to a tweet from Ben Stark about how his girlfriend wouldn't be allowed in the venue. Several others chimed in that they were in the same situation with their significant others.
That was eventually fixed, but certainly not before it caused a bunch of unnecessary stress on the competitors and their loved ones. I both understand and respect the reasons for increasing security, but this situation is another instance of WotC's poor communication. That was an important topic and should have been stressed rather than added to an email as an afterthought.
2) After Pro Tour 25th Anniversary, players had to figure out team series rosters for the next year and scout for potential sponsors, but it was impossible due to the lack of information WotC had given us. Is there a team Pro Tour? What if members our team fail to achieve Gold status for the last half of the season? No one had any answers to these questions. We were told to wait for more information and still don't have all the answers.
3) Leading up to GP Sao Paulo, the @wizards_magicbr account made four tweets about the GP, starting only five days before. They mentioned three artists and a panel with two WotC employees -- Nothing about the tournament itself, nothing about the reigning Player of the Year or most recent Pro Tour champion in attendance, and nothing about the tournament itself.
There is room to promote new sets, artists, cosplayers, and players. Better yet, work with your visible players to help promote these things.
4) Remember Pro Tour Dominaria when Channel Fireball's innovative G/U Karn deck was somehow posted on coverage? Their entire tournament was potentially ruined and all they got was an apology. These mistakes severely impact tournament integrity, are not acceptable, and would have been easily avoidable if those responsible for coverage were familiar with Standard and could recognize that G/U Karn was a new archetype.
5) Everything surrounding the Silver Showcase was a disaster. If you want to get fresh eyeballs on Magic, there are diminishing returns on inviting three Hearthstone pros, who likely share some chunk of the same audiences. Two of the players were former Magic players who left the game in search of greener pastures and were rewarded for it, not only by being successful, but by WotC themselves.
The format they played (booster draft with Beta and other old packs) isn't something that can be replicated by the viewers. The format was also not the best showcase for how great of a game Magic is. Imagine if a Beta draft were your first introduction to Magic -- would a bunch of simplistic cards capture your attention by today's standards? If you did enjoy it, you couldn't even replicate the experience.
The budget for organized play is already small, and occasionally, a large chunk of the money funneled through it is wasted on things like this.
Leading up to Worlds, we were spammed with nine emails of varying importance. Buried in one of those (rather lengthy) emails was a small paragraph about needing to RSVP by a certain deadline if you wanted to have a +1, which lead to a tweet from Ben Stark about how his girlfriend wouldn't be allowed in the venue. Several others chimed in that they were in the same situation with their significant others.
That was eventually fixed, but certainly not before it caused a bunch of unnecessary stress on the competitors and their loved ones. I both understand and respect the reasons for increasing security, but this situation is another instance of WotC's poor communication. That was an important topic and should have been stressed rather than added to an email as an afterthought.
2) After Pro Tour 25th Anniversary, players had to figure out team series rosters for the next year and scout for potential sponsors, but it was impossible due to the lack of information WotC had given us. Is there a team Pro Tour? What if members our team fail to achieve Gold status for the last half of the season? No one had any answers to these questions. We were told to wait for more information and still don't have all the answers.
3) Leading up to GP Sao Paulo, the @wizards_magicbr account made four tweets about the GP, starting only five days before. They mentioned three artists and a panel with two WotC employees -- Nothing about the tournament itself, nothing about the reigning Player of the Year or most recent Pro Tour champion in attendance, and nothing about the tournament itself.
There is room to promote new sets, artists, cosplayers, and players. Better yet, work with your visible players to help promote these things.
4) Remember Pro Tour Dominaria when Channel Fireball's innovative G/U Karn deck was somehow posted on coverage? Their entire tournament was potentially ruined and all they got was an apology. These mistakes severely impact tournament integrity, are not acceptable, and would have been easily avoidable if those responsible for coverage were familiar with Standard and could recognize that G/U Karn was a new archetype.
5) Everything surrounding the Silver Showcase was a disaster. If you want to get fresh eyeballs on Magic, there are diminishing returns on inviting three Hearthstone pros, who likely share some chunk of the same audiences. Two of the players were former Magic players who left the game in search of greener pastures and were rewarded for it, not only by being successful, but by WotC themselves.
The format they played (booster draft with Beta and other old packs) isn't something that can be replicated by the viewers. The format was also not the best showcase for how great of a game Magic is. Imagine if a Beta draft were your first introduction to Magic -- would a bunch of simplistic cards capture your attention by today's standards? If you did enjoy it, you couldn't even replicate the experience.
The budget for organized play is already small, and occasionally, a large chunk of the money funneled through it is wasted on things like this.
Yes, the whole point of this kind of Protest is to make it as difficult as possible for Wizards to respond to. Had he done this on Monday, they probably would have flown out another player and just gone on as if nothing had happened, and tried to work this out behind the scenes/out of the public as possible. But now, there is an obvious hole- there will be a bye every round, a 7 person draft pod, etc.
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The issue isn't tournament attendance- a store does what, charges $5-10 for constructed FNM and $15 for a draft? Stores make their money selling cards to those players- either singles or sealed product. I've never bought singles at my LGS because I shop around and usually buy from TCGPlayer- maybe if there was a card I needed for my deck the day of a tournament I would bite the bullet? And now booster boxes will be SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper at Amazon than they will be at your store- your store will have to buy boxes from wholesale distributors at a markup from the direct price, and then will have to mark the box up again in order to make a profit on selling the box. Meanwhile, Amazon now gets to buy as if they are a wholesale distributor (and knowing Amazon, probably get a better price than normal wholesale distributors) and then get to choose their own markup. The odds are Amazon is going to be far and away the cheapest place to buy boxes, AND you will get them shipped to you free in 2 days with Prime instead of having to pay for shipping.
Unless we get more Nexus of Fate type BaB promos for stores, there is going to be no reason to pay an insane markup in store unless you can't wait the 2 days or you don't have a credit card
The cheaper the game is, the healthier the game will be. The collecting and value mini-game that's been built into it since the beginning has been necessary for a long long time. Direct sales like this were going to be forced by counterfeit operations eventually, this is WotC taking the first steps towards it.
Perhaps he hadn't decided to do this until recently. Maybe talking to other pros pushed him in this direction. Was this a decision he was wrestling with for weeks or months? Maybe -- we don't know the path he took to this decision.
But really? I don't think he's been playing Magic professionally for years and years to scam them once for a flight and a week of a hotel stay. I don't think preparing for a tournament then bailing to what -- go on a free vacation? -- was his plan.
Truthfully he loses a lot by not playing on a personal level, while Wizards and the tournament carry on. Being there opens up the possibility someone meets with him at the tournament to discuss the issues, should they care.
It's all a gamble, and at a high cost to him. I hope it pays off.
A bit confused by that criticism of commentators from GerryT. Even if you don't like it I don't think you can say WotC is not putting a lot of effort into the commentator side.
I'm pretty sure we've known for years (decades?) that "Pro Magic player" is a terrible career choice for a multitude of reasons.
I mean, yeah. It's basically a dice roll on whether or not you're even successful at it since there's a pretty low cap on how legitimately good you can be at the game. It's not the type of game where if you're the best player in the world everyone knows you're going to clear through to the Top 8 every tournament you attend.
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It would be awesome, but I honestly don't know if they can print Kaya in Standard. She would be the best Planeswalker in Standard by a lot because her -2 is insanely strong and her 0 makes her practically impossible to kill outside of instant speed removal.
Right in the name.
Wizards will now provide booster packs and such for sale online through Walmart and other stores, and you can purchase Guilds of Ravnica: Masterpiece Edition through Channel Fireball to be picked up at a Grand Prix.
I assume they'd make a new version of her instead.
Okay, so I probably shouldn't encourage this bad behavior, but I just overheard some friends of mine talking about ambushing another friend by showing up to an EDH night with everyone except him playing Etrata and after thinking about it for a second I couldn't stop laughing.
Who made this decision? What a dumbass. Par for the course of Organized Play.
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