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I don't think anything on the back of a box is really going to be a spoiler to the point of damaging enjoyment of the game. I'd say don't worry too much about it.
Ah phew. Thank you both and much appreciated, especially for the super quick answers.
Chaosblade - I suppose that's true but then again Steins;Gate has, in one of its intros, a couple of pretty big spoilers, so I've taken it as a policy to try and go in as blind as possible when it comes to some of these more story-heavy games. Can't be too safe....
Not quite. It's always been swirling around in the air.
Then again I played the sky games before the cold steel games, so my ears and eyes were wide open. Easier to pick up things it foreshadows.
There are plently of surprises tho, like how the game handles the in media res beginning for me.
When Sen was announced, it was already announced as the arc dealing with the 'great war'. I remember this clearly because SiliconEra somehow thought this referred to the Hundred Days War and labelled Sen a precursor to Trails in the Sky.
So no, it's not a spoiler. And if you glance over the basic set pieces for Cold Steel I, it's not particularly hard to guess what spawns it.
So no, it's not a spoiler. And if you glance over the basic set pieces for Cold Steel I, it's not particularly hard to guess what spawns it.
I just finished Chapter 4 in TitS SC.
This chapter was fantastic. Before, I felt that I was simply enjoying the series. But this chapter may have just solidified TitS as one of my favourite rpgs. So many excellent character beats, especially that dream sequence. But the highlight of the game had definitely been Estelle and Schera's relationship. It's been great to see the 2 work together as teacher/student.
So edited machine translation is being left in?
There is still a lot wrong with Sen III, but the improvement to Altina's design felt like a small miracle.
Does the team need help? I'm assuming help would require a religious understanding of character backstories, etc. for this series? Then again, google doesn't understand Japanese.
There is still a lot wrong with Sen III, but the improvement to Altina's design felt like a small miracle.
It's still going to be edited by Zerker and his team (barring any changes of plans), and if needed they will probably retranslate and entirely rewrite any problematic lines. But that will make editing more difficult and time consuming than it would be if the whole translation was done by a person/people who have a good grasp of Japanese, English, and the details of the series.
Part of me regrets bringing this up due to all the skepticism and negativity it brings to the project, but I guess it's worth discussing and someone else probably would have brought it up eventually anyway.
Currently a third into Cold Steel 2 and I'm on the verge of dropping out with all the "powerful enemies who are just misunderstood friends" bullshit. This war is bollocks. The motivations are bollocks and the overpowered enemies are just playing with the protagonists. This has no emotional impact at all.
Trails in the Sky was great.
Cold steel 1 was okay mostly but 2 is a clusterf*ck unfortunately. :(
Trails in the Sky was great.
Cold steel 1 was okay mostly but 2 is a clusterf*ck unfortunately. :(
And that's why I always chose to travel with Schera, which I think is an unpopular opinion. Estelle needed her older sister in the beginning of SC, when she was broken.
I only found one motivation severly lacking by the end of the game. The power gap might be annoying, but the goal of the protagonists isn't really to win. It's to get something back.
Towards the end of CS2, they acually pull that BS of
bosses using you as warm-up 3 times in a row. I mean, seriously? And are Toval and Olivert supposed to stand a chance in a fight that couldn't be won by Sara and most of class VII including one with ogre powers?
Laura's father vs McBurn was pretty cool though.
It's just funny how your party seems to be made up of the biggest weaklings in the whole thing but all the important stuff gets delegated to them anyway.
Everyone is a superman, instructors, bracers, fathers, older siblings, but lets let the kids handle it.
Laura's father vs McBurn was pretty cool though.
It's just funny how your party seems to be made up of the biggest weaklings in the whole thing but all the important stuff gets delegated to them anyway.
Everyone is a superman, instructors, bracers, fathers, older siblings, but lets let the kids handle it.
Welp and then
You see Rean holding back at Lloyd. Although the prospect fighting against Rean was quite exhilarating after that decision.
This terrorist that caused the death of many people is my friend. I'll take him back to school.
Shut the fuck up Rean, he belongs to prison!
Shut the fuck up Rean, he belongs to prison!
The war is just nonsense if 95% of the bad guys want to secretly be your friend and all the good guys want openly the bad guys to be their friends!
And I'm sitting here, shaking my head, plotting the execution of all the figureheads and mercenaries of the noble faction.
"Maybe they are right and we should end this war, the Nation will suffer if we continue."
FUCK OFF Rean! That is defeatist thinking and bowing down to tyrants.
And the stupidest thing of all: making one grandstand after another, our heroes in peril, and then the bad guys either get "new orders" or just disengage without reason.
The only reason I can think of is, that they secretly ploy the training of Rean to get this mysterious "third path" and safe Erebonia. But if that's really the reason and this is some grand bad-guys are playing bad guys for the good of the nation bullshit, then this falls very very flat. This would have a little bit of redemption in it if Rean wasn't such a moronic, flip-flopping, easily influenced idiot. ("Maybe I should accept the invitation into the noble alliance"). WHAT????
The optimistic, doe-eyed do-gooder Protagonist only works with real, evil bad guys and nations.
And I'm sitting here, shaking my head, plotting the execution of all the figureheads and mercenaries of the noble faction.
"Maybe they are right and we should end this war, the Nation will suffer if we continue."
FUCK OFF Rean! That is defeatist thinking and bowing down to tyrants.
And the stupidest thing of all: making one grandstand after another, our heroes in peril, and then the bad guys either get "new orders" or just disengage without reason.
The only reason I can think of is, that they secretly ploy the training of Rean to get this mysterious "third path" and safe Erebonia. But if that's really the reason and this is some grand bad-guys are playing bad guys for the good of the nation bullshit, then this falls very very flat. This would have a little bit of redemption in it if Rean wasn't such a moronic, flip-flopping, easily influenced idiot. ("Maybe I should accept the invitation into the noble alliance"). WHAT????
The optimistic, doe-eyed do-gooder Protagonist only works with real, evil bad guys and nations.
in all fairness it was necessary for Rean to reach the top, but then again Falcom really dropped the ball writing Sen2
Yeah, I agree.
"This war is so terrible!" Except no one ever dies in it and there are no real consequences. "OMG these villains are so ominous and powerful!" Except they're always holding back and not even really doing anything to hurt people. Etc. Everything is too sanitized, and that's too bad, because the overall plot could be really good if it just had a bit more teeth.
rip in peace Cedric market dude
nobody remembered him, even after death
Really, though, CS2's story is such a disappointment. If they actually treated the war like a war, it could have been so much better.
nobody remembered him, even after death
Really, though, CS2's story is such a disappointment. If they actually treated the war like a war, it could have been so much better.
I remembered.
I cried.
Insert pikkard pic.
At least we have Valiant Hearts.
I mean, we're talking about a Kiseki game that unambiguously has the best gameplay out of all the ones localized so far. It's got a "take it or leave it narrative" sure, but it's still filled with enjoyable moments (ie: reconnecting with the characters you got invested with + a kickass airship). Like CS2 is straight up the better game, so there's nothing to worry about it.
Yo let's not dunk on something that was legitimately explained ingame
"My sister was literally kidnapped by these terrorists, and they clearly outmatch us in terms of power so submitting to them even though it's wrong is an option because I don't want things to get even worse"
Is a rationale thought process
Is a rationale thought process
Also it's not that the bad guys are "secretly good", it's that the enforcers are more like mercenaries rather than mustache twirling villains. I actually like that they have ties to the protagonists. Kiseki's pretty good at fleshing antagonists and making them feel like actual people (barring characters like McBurn and Duvalie, who are enjoyable memes). That said, the whole "we got fucked up, but we escaped because of reinforcements" is suuuuuuuuper weak though, especially since it's repeated 3 times. SC does something similar, but it's way better about it.
PS: You really wanna plot the execution of the strongest guy in the setting, HUH!?
Lol, I had almost forgotten about this.
Definitely. Not a Trails fan by any means, but it's so far the only game in the series I think is straight up trash. Absolute garbage.
Gonna have to suffer through it on PC though cause I'd still like to see the story to its conclusion.
with CS2 it became undeniable that Falcom struggled with development when they moved the games to PS3/Vita... CS2 has some interesting bits but it also drops the ball on some parts like the final dungeon that has a horribly executed boss rush. Story wise the game definitely would have been one with CS1 if they could have made it possible me feels. CS3 goes a lot more in SC territory of epicness combined with story exposition akin to 3rd to compare. That game has so many bombs to drop it is insane.
Power levels never meant a lot anyway
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CS1 spoilers: It's so jarring when
You go from a massive terrorist attack with hundreds(?) dead in a military base. Literally watch 6 soldiers take poison pills and vomit blood to "okay guys time for the school festival let's get planning!" I'm really not a fan of the high school setting they went with this time around. I understand they took a lot of cues from Persona 4 like the group attack rush and the MC protagonist in Rean with romance(?) options. But some of it just does not play well with the theme and setting of the trails games.
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Well, it is repeatedly stated that as a student you are not supposed to be involved or too badly affected by these sorts of things and to go on with your student life.
I do agree that the level of violence shown in that chapter doesn't really jive with the vibe/dialogue between you and your classmates at those points though. That sort of error has been fixed in CS3 IMO.
EDIT: Since the old site is a dead withered shell, I should probably do a CS3 violence analysis (once I'm finished with it) like I did for the other Kiseki games... where I realized that CS1 is actually more violent overall than CS2 was.
I'm not sure how many cues CS actually took from Persona. The social link maybe, but the "military high school" setting was originated from light novels at that time that stemmed into manga, anime and videogames. Just look at Valkyria Chronicles 2 and Final Fantasy Type 0, it was clearly a trend.
The Liberl games had the academy which was a setting for quite a few story parts. The military part was probably an in-universe excuse to set a Trails game in a high school. Which is unfortunately a common setting in Japanese media. I'm sure it net Falcom a lot of money on the home turf but I really feel like CS I suffered because of it. Only CS II really justified it.
I was quite disappointed to see that CS III was still tied to a bloody high school again. I thought we'd finally be able to get away from it. Since the most interest part of Trails is the Zemurian game of chess.
I was quite disappointed to see that CS III was still tied to a bloody high school again. I thought we'd finally be able to get away from it. Since the most interest part of Trails is the Zemurian game of chess.
These Falcom games are on sale in this Autumn sale on Steam:
Trails in the Sky (-50%)
Trails in the Sky SC (-35%)
Trails in the Sky the 3rd (-25%)
Trails of Cold Steel (-25%)
Ys I&II Chronicles (-70%)
Ys Origin (-70%)
Ys: The Oath in Felghana (-70%)
Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim (-70%)
Ys Seven (-25%)
Xanadu Next (-50%)
I've checked, but apparently gog and humble doesn't have a sale with Falcom games. Anyway Ys games are pretty cheap. If you haven't tried them yet, get them! Xanadu Next is also really great at this price. Only games out of the sale are Gurumin, Zwei and of course Ys VIII (soon).
Trails in the Sky (-50%)
Trails in the Sky SC (-35%)
Trails in the Sky the 3rd (-25%)
Trails of Cold Steel (-25%)
Ys I&II Chronicles (-70%)
Ys Origin (-70%)
Ys: The Oath in Felghana (-70%)
Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim (-70%)
Ys Seven (-25%)
Xanadu Next (-50%)
I've checked, but apparently gog and humble doesn't have a sale with Falcom games. Anyway Ys games are pretty cheap. If you haven't tried them yet, get them! Xanadu Next is also really great at this price. Only games out of the sale are Gurumin, Zwei and of course Ys VIII (soon).
Some nice deals there. Those who don't have Ys Origin/Oath, now's your chance. What a steal.
Think I'll get Ys Seven. I need something to play until Monster Hunter World drops and Gurumin just isn't doing much for me.