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Magic: the Gathering |OT| Guilds of Ravnica - We built this city on blocks of gold
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I imagine Gerry going to pick his stuff up, seeing they wrote "Jerry" down, and that being the final straw lol
Just the core ones.
Arcbound Ravager, Cranial Plating and some other obviously dumb as fuck stuff. Those 2 were the worst offenders though imo, and without them way less people would've played affinity already.
I think you got answered already but basically Mirrodin was so broken that Kamigawa felt super underpowered in comparison and even after the whole block released people obviously still played Mirrodin stuff because it was just way, way better. Kamigawa had some really, really good cards like Jitte and Sensei's Divining Top but overall the design team played it safe after the Mirrodin trainwreck and no matter what Kamigawa deck you built, someone with Affinity-deck from Mirrodin was going to stomp you into the ground pretty much 100% of the time.
Kamigawa on it's own was pretty cool actually and the fact it was so unpopular because of Mirrodin sucks because I need more Ninjas for my Commander and probably will never get any :/...
Around the time of the Combo Winter bans was the same time Magic slipped from the #1 card game to the #2 card game (when Pokemon dropped around the time of Urza's Legacy).
By 2002, Magic had taken the top spot again from Pokemon- Pokemon's "fad" period had passed- and then in late 2002 early 2003 Yugioh dropped and started encroaching on Magic. By the time Mirroden was in full swing, they were clearly the #2 CCG behind YGO, and were probably feeling heat from Heroclix in the tabletop space as well.
It takes a lot of guts to tell people their deck they spent $100s on is no longer legal for them to use- there is a good chance those players leave and never come back
Nowadays it's a little easier- Pokemon and Magic are the 2 kings of TCG with Yugioh being a solid #3, with stuff like Final Fantasy and FOW and Bushiroad games being popular for short periods or in different regions of the country. Pokemon dominates among younger players, and Magic is for Older players (obviously, there are 8-10 year olds who play MTG and adults in their late 20s playing Pokemon). The real competition now is from digital games like Hearthstone. It's easier to ban cards now because it's less likely the player will quit for another CCG.
Disciple of the Vault and the Artifact Lands were the real problem cards- Affinity was the best deck in the format before Archbound Ravager or Cranial Plating were printed! It was a slower deck that used Broodstar as it's finisher, and would even play countermagic
It was a horrible day at work, but 90 packs of Ravnica saves the evening.
edit: 3 Etratas in the first 10 packs. Someone's sending a message.
edit: 3 Etratas in the first 10 packs. Someone's sending a message.
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Plus side: because there are so few ninjas and no obvious plans to print more, they were comfortable printing you a bonkers ninja commander.
They shitton of people left the game because there was nothing but Affinity for ages so...I'm pretty sure banning it would have had less people leaving than not banning it.
When it comes to the artifact lands, I probably remember it wrong that those were the first cards banned? And yeah, they were broken.
Skullclamp was the first card banned (June 2004), and they would wait 9 months to ban Ravager, Disciple, and the 6 artifact lands https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/arcana/brief-history-standard-banned-list-2015-07-13
Cranial Plating was never banned
Yeah I know Skullclamp was banned super fast (still think the people okaying that shit were stoned or something). Seems like my memory of the artifact lands being banned before Ravager and co. seems to be wrong then.
And yeah after the lands were banned Plating wasn't that hot anymore so that's understandable.
Also- this was back in the era where the ban list would be announced and wouldn't go into effect for another month!
What could go wrong as a result of telling everyone which cards are busted enough to be banned but not actually banning them for a month?
It is a mystery.
It is a mystery.
I mean, in that era, card sets weren't standard legal for weeks after they were released (I think it was a month but can't remember). Standard really only existed as a FNM/Regionals/Nationals/Worlds format- most GPs and PTs of the era were Extended/Block/Limited
At my LGS, Dragon Ball Super seems to be doing pretty well right now.
You can throw that in to the FOW/FF/Bushiroad tier- at one of my previous stores, Force of Will was bigger than Magic and Pokemon!
It all depends on the market
Someone just changed the file and didn't think about it. There's a whole WOTC article on how Skullclamp happened.
I think Darksteel Citadel is the only banned in Standard card to get reprinted in Standard.
Oh, Arena isn't giving us the 2-color starter decks now that we're in open beta? This is a significantly slower start.
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If you don't have any tapped lands, you were forced to untap your opponent's lands. This confused the hell out of a lot of people on Arena.
I understand the situation, it confused me the first time it happened as well. I just don't understand the part where they are now making one of the best cards in the format better. I doesn't seem like a good trade off for clarity.
It's sad this happened and sad I don't think they even advertised this merch.
But what if I only had one land because I Scapeshifted with only one land left in my deck?
Basically, have you thought about the edge case where I'm just really, really dumb?
Basically, have you thought about the edge case where I'm just really, really dumb?
it's a QoL change that only makes for less GRV warnings in comp REL.
QoL... quality of life
GRV... game rule violation
REL... rules enforcement level
QoL... quality of life
GRV... game rule violation
REL... rules enforcement level
I'm glad someone is.
On a related note, I'm putzing around with Arena doing the Singleton event thing, and the number of people who literally scoop as soon as Fungal Plots hits the board is really something else.
A Rat Colony deck isn't just literally 45 copies of Rat Colony you guys.
I've beaten all the Rat Colony cheese I've faced. It just folds to any amount of 1/1 production.
It doesn't really make the card any better. You could have chosen to tap your own lands and float the mana in response to the trigger. So you were never really forced to untap your opponent's lands if you knew how the card worked.
Yeah but Arena seems to have a problem right now regarding account wipes.
Oh my fucking god Arena.
Even if you click "Skip Tutorial", you are still required to play till you get a win with one of the 5 preconstructed decks, then you need to use 1000 gold to buy a booster pack (you can't skip this- even if you never plan on playing anything other than limited you have to incinerate the coins on the pack), and then you have to play with the precons some more until you deal 10 damage to an opponent- something that took 4 games because I chose the blue deck and in the 3 games I won, I only ever did like 3 damage to the opponent before they scooped in the face of an unwinabble board. It took me over an hour to play through this shitty extra tutorial, and I was very tempted to just say fuck it and sell my account with 37000 Gems on it.
I swear to christ if they make me do this again when the beta ends....
Also, is there any way to disable the board effects? Does setting the graphic settings to the lowest possible settings shorten animations?
Even if you click "Skip Tutorial", you are still required to play till you get a win with one of the 5 preconstructed decks, then you need to use 1000 gold to buy a booster pack (you can't skip this- even if you never plan on playing anything other than limited you have to incinerate the coins on the pack), and then you have to play with the precons some more until you deal 10 damage to an opponent- something that took 4 games because I chose the blue deck and in the 3 games I won, I only ever did like 3 damage to the opponent before they scooped in the face of an unwinabble board. It took me over an hour to play through this shitty extra tutorial, and I was very tempted to just say fuck it and sell my account with 37000 Gems on it.
I swear to christ if they make me do this again when the beta ends....
Also, is there any way to disable the board effects? Does setting the graphic settings to the lowest possible settings shorten animations?
So, what should 3-color for sealed look like/how should I go about putting it together? I've gotten by my last few prereleases just sticking to 2-color, but that feels like it would be to my detriment here more than usual, potentially. Similar for splashing, which I also haven't done. Don't want to cripple myself if what I open is really good for 3-color by sticking unnecessarily to 2.
(Actually stuck to 2-color in deck-building in general, to be honest.)
(Actually stuck to 2-color in deck-building in general, to be honest.)
At pre release you'll have a seeded pack of your guild choice with 15 (14 ?) cards of that guild. Should be more than enough to just stick to 2 colors.
If you need to splash a bomb, use lockets and gates. Also being green helps.
Well it mostly depends on your draws as for me i would build a 2 color deck first and then look at the double colored cards which have at least one color im already plan on using and add those who are deemed useful. For example you got a U/B deck but also drew an assassins trophy i would definitly put that in.
Or say you got a G/W one with lots of weak power creatures, putting in some reds with mentor won't hurt.
I built my own deck (a super shitty one, since I had no cards, but still) to do the tutorial missions, and just ignored it when the blue dot told me to buy a pack. I don't think it makes you do anything - you can still click around and access everything except for the "advanced" game modes.
But yeah you can't disable animations. Really sucks when I'm playing on my tablet - gotta make it look good on stream though!
I spent at least 3 minutes trying to get around buying the pack. In the end, it's 1000 gold I will never get back.
Also, did they take out the "Open All (or multiple) packs" button? There were 5 Core Set boosters on my account but it made me open them one at a time
Also, did they take out the "Open All (or multiple) packs" button? There were 5 Core Set boosters on my account but it made me open them one at a time
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