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I wonder what the regular pro Corbyn columnists like Owen Jones think of this boycott?
 

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It's mainly people saying a boycott is stupid from what I can see. It's the usual twitter thing where a small number of people have a spicy take on something, and then it's the reaction against it is what perpetuates it.
Still, if that report is what started this then it's a shame that's not what is being discussed.
 

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I can think of several reasons none of the papers are reporting on a study showing how shit they are tbh.
 
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What started the boycott thing? Best I can find is that it might be related to this report in the coverage antisemitism, which is pretty damning.

http://www.mediareform.org.uk/blog/...coverage-of-antisemitism-and-the-labour-party
http://www.mediareform.org.uk/wp-co...tism-and-the-news-EXECUTIVE-SUMMARY-FINAL.pdf

The Guardian were hosting the NUJ-organised Claudia Jones memorial lecture at their offices, which was being performed by The Canary's editor-in-chief Kerry-Anne Mendoza. There was an internal email within the Guardian which got leaked, in which the (unknown) sender expressed how disappointed they were with the choice of speaker, and invited others to pressure the NUJ into ditching her, and was looking for a procedural way to rescind the use of their facilities.

I had to spend a while tracing through tweets to figure it out!

Edit: Oh, but to make things more confusing, The Canary were also planning a 'Twitterstorm' under the #BoycottTheGuardian hashtag, for the newspaper's criticism of Corbyn. This (presumably) coincidentally happened to be at the exact same time that the other news broke, so it gave both causes a single banner to rally under and ended up getting more prominence than it would have otherwise.
 
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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1045615982822264832
All polls are subject to a wide range of potential sources of error. On the basis of the historical record of the polls at recent general elections, there is a 9 in 10 chance that the true value of a party's support lies within 4 points of the estimates provided by this poll, and a 2 in 3 chance that they lie within 2 points.
http://www.britishpollingcouncil.or...es-new-rule-on-uncertainty-attached-to-polls/
 
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There is an entrance fee to party conferences in the UK? Or is this just the Tories?
This is insane to me... Definitely not the case in Germany.
 

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Fuck that's beautiful.
As a mobile dev though I feel really bad for the devs who worked on it lol
 

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They're going to get a £2m fine apparently.

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Johnson wants to build a bridge to Ireland...
 

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Watching The Andrew Marr Show, hopefully he holds Theresa May on Victor Orban and Islamaphobia like he did with Jeremy Corbyn on anti-semitism.

Edit: Not really surprised.
 
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Sorry you are right, it was actually £45m roughly.

Absolute scandal that nothing happened because of that.
Easy victory here for Labour. We should be building bridges with Europe in all ways, not just across the Irish channel. Besides the logistics of linking Ireland to the U.K. would be incredibly expensive and disruptive to marine life but hey. Let's float a stupid idea tho.
 

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How can the Conservatives win back the under-45s? Conservative conference fringe event Twitter thread from the political editor of Business Insider:
At the "How can the Conservatives win back the under-45s?" Fringe. Average age of audience: 55. Number of bow ties: 2. #cpc18

Neil O'Brien says the Tories are now some 40 points behind Labour among young people. Says young voters were attracted by Corbyn's offer of a "moon on a stick". #cpc18

O'Brien says the Tories' support among young voters is like a branch that has been rotting for years and has now finally broken. #CPC18

O'Brien: If we called tuition fees a graduate tax then the Tories would obviously be campaigning to slash it. #CPC18

Rachel Sylvester from The Times: "There's a danger of the party looking like a party for old white men." #CPC18

Rachel Sylvester says Brexit has convinced a whole generation that the Conservatives are not the party for them. #CPC18

Sylvester says the only way for the party to recover the support of young people is to hold a second Brexit referendum. Conservative delegates here very unhappy with this suggestion #cpc18

George Freeman asks for a show of hands for how many women there are in the room under the age of 47. There are around 8. #cpc18

George Freeman says the housing crisis is the biggest barrier to a Tory majority: "Why would you ever be a capitalist if you've got no chance of ever getting any capital?" #cpc18

George Freeman says the Conservative party look like "armed wing of UKIP" and "Besuited bank managers of austerity with no vision" #Cpc18

Justine Greening says if the Conservative party doesn't start appealing to young people: "We're just not going to be winning elections any more. It's as simple as that." #Cpc18

The panelists all diagnosing short term causes of collapse in Tory support among young people - housing shortages, tuition fees, Brexit - but not identifying the basic long-term cause, which is decades of seeking votes of the old and rich at expense of the young and poor. #Cpc18

A Conservative teacher in the audience says her class is like "a socialist convention" and adds "the things you hear in the classroom are scary." #Cpc18

Audience member: "My daughter votes Labour, I'm ashamed to say." #cpc18

Audience member says party shouldn't change from its "traditional values" in order to win over young people in London. Outside London in "the provinces" people still want families, he says. Murmur of approval from delegates. #cpc18
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1046365901627564032
 

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I do think insulting young people is a great way to win their votes. I also like the idea that young people in the cities don't want families.

The conservatives have done fuck all for families of all types for decades.
 

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The Tories are structurally set up to not appeal to younger voters. Plus they are utterly without vision or ideas.

They do make a good point in that list that if tuition fees were called a graduate tax then the tories would want to cut it. But that says it all, doesn't it?
 

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I wonder if pushing through Brexit is the right wing Tory attempt to regain control from the younger voters, a last attempt to mould Britain, push it back to the old guard for as long as possible. Tories might lose out either way but you never know what the fallout will be like that make people vote stupid.

You do still see a young tory here and there, frightening bunch.

Tories still get a lot of votes so people are replacing the dead ones.
 

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Young people in the cities don't want families? Or could it be... that we can't afford to have children as its impossible to raise a family on a single wage, and childcare costs are insane?

Nah, we obviously just don't want kids and should buy less Avocado toast.
 

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Aside from all the practical issues and costs, the thing about a bridge to Ireland is that the only real 'viable' route is via Kintyre. And frankly you'd be quicker get a ferry from Cairnryan from pretty much anywhere than trying to get the Mull of Kintyre (roughly a distance of 14-15 miles). And even then it only gets you to the very northern tip of NI. You'd be looking at massive road infrastructure at either end.

I mean it might be more feasible* to go for a bridge Portpartick- Islandmagee (which is roughly 22-24 miles) because at least that way you'd be going some where central. But that route would be the largest continuous road bridge in the world, just slightly longer than the Lake Pontchartrain Causeway in Louisiana, but you're talking about crossing open sea not a relatively sheltered and shallow lake (average depth is only 12-14m)

*obviously not feasible at all.
 

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Well it could be stop and shoot, so silver lining

Next on the agenda: legalise guns again.

Yes, the party filled with landlords and who push landlord benefiting policies, apparently vilify them....

Are these people living in the real world?

I know this is a rhetorical question but i'm going to answer anyway. No. They are all white, 50+, wealthy and homeowners, with no conception at all of what it is like for the vast majority of this country. So fucking clueless.

I saw this thing going round twitter which I can sadly can't find right now, and might have been bullshit anyway because I couldn't see the original source. But it was a pic of JRM with the caption that he was claiming any economic downturn from brexit could be weathered with a person's savings and stocks and bonds etc etc. Could well be made up, but also exactly the kind of thing you can imagine that lunatic saying behind closed doors.
 
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