SO… since a 2019 launch could damage a lot the competition you expect Sony to have the fair play go wait until 2020. Am I understanding this correctly?
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PS5 and next Xbox launch speculation - Post E3 2018
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What I was implying is that niether will let the other launch with a years advantage. I think they will want to launch same year.
I was just about to say the same thing albeit with much less detail.
Yeah, I mean we all know Sony had paused announcing new games. The fact that they cancelled a game conference makes sense regardless of 2019 or 2020. Those in the 2019 camp is just reading too much into it.
And once again, I had to remind people that Console releases are too big to have its date moved forward without major consequences. ERA has a history of trivialising the task of picking release dates, but platform holders don't have that luxury.
Yes, I think E3 2019 will be really boring for Sony, but not really more than this year.
With Days Gone, Dreams, Concrete Genie, Nioh 2, Medievil, The Last of Us Part II, Death Stranding and Ghost of Tsushima, Sony has enough exclusives for 2019 and 2020. And without Paris Games Week and PSX this year, they probably keep enough for one more E3.
Backward compatibility isn't the same thing than cross-gen titles.
That's backwards compatibility though.
Even games that are just patched up with performance boosts is backwards compatibility.
Cross gen games would take advantage of both sets of hardware properly. Let's say extra a. I. characters in a scene or whatever, not just a performance difference.
I mean it only applies to games that are really trying to push the envelope obviously.
I wouldn't say "boring," but it'll be the last "calm" year. Also, I think that it will be dominated by 3rd-Party games like Star Wars: Jedi Fallen Order, Rocksteady's new game etc. 1st-Party comes in swinging E3 2020 for both Sony and MS.
Think E3 2019 will be like E3 2014 where people are screaming at Sony about first parties being missing, like Guerrilla or SSM
Maybe, but I also think people will understand that it's just a buffer for the next year's E3.
If next gen is fall 2020, I'd say Sony should do what Nintendo did at E3 2016 with Zelda. Have a stream that gives real deep-dives into TLOU, Ghost of Tsushima and Death Stranding. Like, at least 30 minutes of gameplay and devs answering questions for each.
Ghost and Death Stranding are open-world games so there will naturally be a ton to talk about in regards to mechanics and progression. If they don't want to show too much of TLOU they can focus on the multiplayer component.
Ghost and Death Stranding are open-world games so there will naturally be a ton to talk about in regards to mechanics and progression. If they don't want to show too much of TLOU they can focus on the multiplayer component.
From a game point of view 2020 seems more realistic, from a business point of view 2019 seems like a better proposition imho.
If they release in 2019, MS cannot launch in that time. They'll have at least a year because MS cannot bring out a new console too early because of the XB1X. It also means Sony can Up-rez all their games to PS5 and not give MS's new studios time to be ready to promote their next console, because most of the new studios will only have been working on new games for about a year, if they launched in 2020, then Sony is giving them an extra year of free dev time.
If they release in 2019, MS cannot launch in that time. They'll have at least a year because MS cannot bring out a new console too early because of the XB1X. It also means Sony can Up-rez all their games to PS5 and not give MS's new studios time to be ready to promote their next console, because most of the new studios will only have been working on new games for about a year, if they launched in 2020, then Sony is giving them an extra year of free dev time.
If both consoles really do come at the end of 2020 and it is true a number of big next-gen games have been in dev for a year or two already then launch will be a bloodbath of AAA games all vying for sales. That seems like a bad idea for these devs/publishers to me. Some could lose out badly.
Mathematically, the shorter the period between launches the higher the average graphics quality/per year it would be.
You forgot the Prince William-approved and free downloadable Resogun :)
Yep. It would be better to fill the launch window and spread releases out by a couple weeks
Yeah but the devs don't seem to do this. It is like the heard mentality when it comes to release dates. Look at the games that shifted after RDR2 release date was announced. Most picked Jan/Feb. It's like when you park in a otherwise empty 500 space car park and another car comes along and parks right next to you! Why have none picked March/April/May?
Jason, would you say a release on current gen systems, with a definitive edition/remaster released on next-gen systems is a better alternative? I believe myself, along with several others, are under the assumption that many of Sony's E3 showings were possible cross-gen titles due to the lack of platform/release window announcements.
FYI, I'm in the Q4 2019/Q1 2020 crowd for next-gen consoles.
It can be a good idea, but in 2016, Nintendo didn't have a Nintendo Direct during E3. Sony can do the same thing: no showcase, but a daily event showing exclusives.
Someone said it earlier: we don't have any reason to thing these games release early 2019 because Red Dead 3 is in October 2018. Some examples:
- Sony release an exclusive in February every year.
- Last Resident Evil has been released in January.
- The Division has been released in March.
And we can continue for every game.
I think we have a very different scenario this transition. Both Xbox One and PS4 stand to have significant price drops and continuing sales, especially the PS4. This time around the cross-Gen games will all be on X86 which will significantly ease multi-sku development.
Still 2019 (though 2020 wouldn't actually bother me) It is more a mystery to me right now that we are this close to 2019, with plenty in the know saying 2020 is far more likely/preferable, but at the same time aren't prepared to rule it out completely.
Why?
Just curious after Jason's comments. I feel that his statements are more "definite" for 2020 than Benji's or Matt's.
Is the fact that you used the plural of superhero significant?
Another expectation that PS5 will be revealed in March! They want to make sure their games are sold before people start holding back for PS5...
Superheroes.....in a new IP?!?! If only....
But yeah, this game gonna look cool on that new PS5/X2 tech!
But yeah, this game gonna look cool on that new PS5/X2 tech!
I did what I could to get back on topic :P
Same here .
It going to be much easier to port things for cross gen .
Most engines already for it among other factors.
It mentions 2019 for next gen, so I'm not really sure if it's true... PS5 in 2019 is too good to be true anyways
His posts are quite clearly not "definite" in ruling out 2019, same with his sources in April. It is why I have said what I did the last few posts about nobody being prepared to rule 2019 out. That wouldn't be the case if 2020 is definite.
So we have 3 legitimate, but different viewpoints on PS5's launch:
1 thinks Late 2019 but doesn't rule out 2020, saying 2019 has been the plan for a while
1 thinks Early 2020 but doesn't rule out 2019, confirming 2019 has been the plan for a while
1 thinks Late 2020but rules out 2019
1 thinks Late 2019 but doesn't rule out 2020, saying 2019 has been the plan for a while
1 thinks Early 2020 but doesn't rule out 2019, confirming 2019 has been the plan for a while
1 thinks Late 2020
I feel like the only things we've truly learned are that Sony has moved on from green lighting new PS4 games and that Rocksteady is working on a game with more than one superhero character that has an online element.
That's a good summary but to me Jason's post reads more like personal speculation than insider info. A lot of 'it seems' and 'probably' and very little of 'a source at Sony told me'.
This thread after Jasons post
Which of Jason's posts? I think you need to explain a bit more.
You made a good point with this.
Next gen is really going to be interesting for both Sony and MS.
Superheroes as in more than one... Not just a "superhero" game. Can we enjoy the Game Awards this year without speculating whether Rocksteady's next game will show up? There was a Verafied user who stated a possible Q1 2019 announcement.
"A lot of people are taking the cancellation of PSX as a sign that the PS5 is coming next year, but it seems like the exact opposite to me. Not really seeing much of a case for 2019."
Yesterday a lot of us made the conclusion that the cancellation of PSX this year is a sign that the PS5 is coming in 2019 with a PS meeting at the beginning of the year.
What all due respect to Jason,but this doesn't make much sense to me.
Well we'll see. I do find it weird they aren't doing it this year given it is a general PlayStation celebration event. It doesn't depend solely on new game announcements to work. Not doing PGW would be understandable if you have no new content.
What app!? And I already told you the specs which I've honed over the last ~18 months....;)
ETA: Also previously I would agree the lack of leaks would've had me ruling 2019 out this late in the day except for what happened with Pro. Plus no one prepared to get off the fence and rule it out.