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Which game do you find holds the most replayability?

  • Demon's Souls

    Votes: 36 11.6%
  • Dark Souls

    Votes: 105 33.8%
  • Dark Souls II

    Votes: 44 14.1%
  • Dark Souls III

    Votes: 93 29.9%
  • Bloodborne

    Votes: 95 30.5%
  • Sekiro

    Votes: 17 5.5%

  • Total voters
    311

Jimnymebob

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Bleed builds are still pretty good with Carthus Rouge, I thought.

Bleed builds are good. Carthus Rouge is what got nerfed, not the build. You now need to actually raise Luck for Bleed builds, instead of just slapping Rouge on your weapon.

I thought they changed how the bleed applied. Like, it did around the same damage, but the way either the bleed applied or something was different.

I just remembered, by bleed build, I was mainly focused on being hollowed (I guess a hollow build lol). So I was mainly getting bleed damage from Carthus Rouge and the Beacon, along with the Pontiff's Right Eye to get the bleed burst damage. I think now I do the same amount of damage in the long run, but I don't get the sort of blood explosion as soon.

Or something like that, I've not played in a while.
 

Ferrs

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Oct 26, 2017
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I thought they changed how the bleed applied. Like, it did around the same damage, but the way either the bleed applied or something was different.

I just remembered, by bleed build, I was mainly focused on being hollowed (I guess a hollow build lol). So I was mainly getting bleed damage from Carthus Rouge and the Beacon, along with the Pontiff's Right Eye to get the bleed burst damage. I think now I do the same amount of damage in the long run, but I don't get the sort of blood explosion as soon.

Or something like that, I've not played in a while.

Being hollowed doesn't matter at all for a Bleed build. Only your Luck level does (and of course Blood infusing your weapons). Actually, the rate the Bleed procs and its damage should be the same, it's the base damage that should be lower (because before the patch you could use a sharp infusion and have regular damage + OP bleed of Carthur Rouge, now you have to choice).

Btw, a hollow build is another thing, is a build that makes weapon scales with Luck, but it's not for bleed purposes, just plain damage, like a regular DEX build, for example. In that build hollowed does matter because for hollow weapons+10 with being hollowed adds 5 LUCK levels.
 

gosublime

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Oct 25, 2017
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Cool -any time in the next couple of hours is good for me next weekend as I'm on GMT but after that it's midnight and I'll need to hit the hay. Don't know what time during the day would work best.

I think we should stick to the base game - means more possible combatants -outside Pontiffs or will that be too crowded? Tarkus
 
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I tried a bleed-based build on my last DS3 playthrough, didn't much care for it. Mind you this was my first attempt at such a build in the whole series and I cobbled it together from various sources (and a little bit of free-wheeling bullshit), so maybe it was kinda doomed from the get-go lol.
 

Jimnymebob

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Actually, the rate the Bleed procs and its damage should be the same, it's the base damage that should be lower (because before the patch you could use a sharp infusion and have regular damage + OP bleed of Carthur Rouge, now you have to choice).

Yeah, that was it. I had a sharp Uchigatana and 40-45 dex at launch.

I just had a look at a build planner I saved back near launch, and I was aiming for (at SL120)
VIG: 25
ATN: 30
END: 30
VIT: 24
STR: 11
DEX: 40
INT: 20
FTH: 20
LUK: 9
 
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bishibosh

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Oct 27, 2017
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You are forbidden to reply to this post if you have EVER used a shield in a Souls game. Thank you for your cooperation.
 

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You are forbidden to reply to this post if you have EVER used a shield in a Souls game. Thank you for your cooperation.
I was a die-hard sword-and-board guy before Bloodborne. That kinda shook me up, in a good way. I've since replayed Demons Souls, DS1, and DS2 sans-shield, and my first play-through of DS3 was also without a shield.
 

Jimnymebob

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Oct 26, 2017
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I didn't use a shield on Demon's Souls per se, but I'll be damned if I'm going through 5-2 without the heading from the Adjudicator's Shield.

I've always been about the Uchi/Shotel dual wield.
 

Ferrs

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Oct 26, 2017
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Yeah, that was it. I had a sharp Uchigatana and 40-45 dex at launch.

I just had a look at a build planner I saved back near launch, and I was aiming for (at SL120)
VIG: 25
ATN: 30
END: 30
VIT: 24
STR: 11
DEX: 40
INT: 20
FTH: 20
LUK: 9

Well that's the case. Before the patch, when you applied Carthous Rouge it was like you having LUCK 40, it made LUCK worthless for Bleed builds. So after the patch Rouge was nerfed and LUCK was actually important if you wanted to bleed. If you want to have bleed like pre-patch, you'll need to level LUCK to 40.

Seeing these stats, you can trim down on some parts, fo example, INT and FTH at 20 feels random and don't add anything to the build IMO.

You are forbidden to reply to this post if you have EVER used a shield in a Souls game. Thank you for your cooperation.

B...but I'm posting here.

You guys know that SL125 has been the "meta" in DS3 for a while now right?

Tbf 5 levels don't add much. I like 120 because I can connect with lvl 100 players.
 

Jimnymebob

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Oct 26, 2017
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Seeing these stats, you can trim down on some parts, fo example, INT and FTH at 20 feels random and don't add anything to the build IMO.

I was running some Pyromancies too. I can't remember which now however, aside from Carthus Beacon.

Oh, is 125 the meta? I made that build plan at launch, and I wasn't sure what it was, so just went to 120.
 

Morrigan

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I'll resub when Monster Hunter World comes out (or earlier if the + games for November are mindblowingly good..... hahaha who are we kidding), so they can challenge me again then xD

...And then I'll have to refuse 'cause I'll be playing MHW :O
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Hiya, SoulsERA.

I've been really enjoying ExcessiveProfanity's playthrough of Bloodborne on Twitch, I'd recommend it if you're into the lore at all. Pretty fun to see how he pieces it all together.

What did everyone use as their first build (for any of the games). I'll list mine in the order that I played them.

Demon's Souls: Sorcery since it was OP and I didn't know any better.

Dark Souls: Strength. Greataxe.

Dark Souls II: Strength. Gyrm Great Hammer.

Bloodborne: Strength. Kirkhammer all day. One of my favorite weapons ever. Did NG+, all Chalice Dungeons and DLC using it.

Dark Souls III: Went Sorcery for a change, so of course Sorcery would suck initially. NG+ and ++ were pretty fun, though. Then went back to Strength for the DLC's. Never unequipped the Quakestone Hammer once I got it. Love the Weapon Art as well.
 

Premium Ghoul

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Oct 27, 2017
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What did everyone use as their first build (for any of the games). I'll list mine in the order that I played them.

Demon's Souls - I tried just about everything until I found that a Crushing Claymore fit my playstyle perfectly. The game got kinda easy after that, lol.
Dark Souls - I believe it was another strength build using the Zweihander and then the Black Knight Greataxe when I found it.
Dark Souls 2 - I saw the Greatsword in promotional screenshots and I just had to have it. I don't even think I used a shield, just had that sword equipped and that's it.
Bloodborne - I beat the game with the Stake Driver but I then went on to use just about every weapon in subsequent playthroughs.
Dark Souls 3 - I started with the Great Club and eventually transitioned to the Dragonslayer Greataxe. I loved pancaking people with the weapon art!

I kinda want to replay Dark Souls 2 at some point. I never actually finished the Scholar version so I'd like to see all the new and repositioned stuff beyond Drangleic Castle.
 

Toxi

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Oct 27, 2017
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What did everyone use as their first build (for any of the games). I'll list mine in the order that I played them.
  • Dark Souls 1: Dex build with Pyro support using Balder Swag Sword
  • Demon's Souls: Strength build using Meat Cleaver
  • Dark Souls 2: Strength build using Gyrm Greathammer
  • Bloodborne: Strength build using Kirkhammer (Kinda a pattern here)
  • Dark Souls 3: Quality build using the Abyss Watcher's Greatsword and the Dark Sword
  • Dark Souls 2 Scholar of the First Sin: First a dedicated dual-wielding spear build, then respecced to a faith+spear build
 

Mochi

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Oct 25, 2017
1,704
Seattle
Subbed. Glad to find this thread.

still have yet to play through BB or DS3, I loved DS1 and 2 and what I played of DeS but the sudden increase in speed in the recent ones has been a huge wall. I'm not very coordinated and turtling is much easier for me.
 

Scarface

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Oct 27, 2017
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I think its time to go through Bloodborne again. I think this will be run number 6 or 7 haha.

Wonder which weapon to run with. I was thinking of using the arm.
 

Toxi

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Oct 27, 2017
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I think its time to go through Bloodborne again. I think this will be run number 6 or 7 haha.

Wonder which weapon to run with. I was thinking of using the arm.
The Amygdalan Arm is a really good choice. The damage isn't as high as something like the Whirligig Saw, but it hits hard enough and the moveset is phenomenal, especially against crowds of enemies. You've got huge sweeps, pancake slams, and that wonderful R2 stab.
 

Scarface

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The Amygdalan Arm is a really good choice. The damage isn't as high as something like the Whirligig Saw, but it hits hard enough and the moveset is phenomenal, especially against crowds of enemies. You've got huge sweeps, pancake slams, and that wonderful R2 stab.

I did a whirligig run about 6 or so months ago. What a blast that thing was. Damage was really nice. Chalices were a piece of cake with that thing. I think ill give the arm a go.

I was actually thinking of replaying the whole series, but i wanna play BB first.
 

Minilla

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Oct 27, 2017
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Bloodborne is my first souls game (playing right now ). Had a lot of help and advice in the old community so hope to be able to get some good reccomendations here too!

Yesterday had my first real frustrating day on bloodborne (which I love ) and spent a good 6 hours getting through the defiled chalice dungeon ! Holy shit , those last 2 bosses . Eventually got them down but fuck me , I was losing hope at certain points .
 

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Posting to say Hi!

I'm a bit LTTP when it comes to the souls series, I played DS3 first simply because of how much press it was getting and I wanted to see what it was all about. It completely consumed me. It ruined other games for me, simply because they were not Dark Souls. I couldn't be bothered playing anything else.
Ended up playing DS 1 and 2, struggled with 1 but not been back to it for a while, but completed 2 ok. Got halfway through BB, keep meaning to go back to it when I can get a chance to put real time into it. Not played DeS yet, although I have it on my PSN account so there's time.

Praise the sun
 

Boddy

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Hi everyone, my username on the old forum was Szadek.
Here is a quick overview about the series for me, as well as 3 other games:

Demon's Souls: One of the best games in the series and therefore in general. My biggest issues can be easily circumvented
Dark Souls 1: Good, but also pretty flawed in many ways, which is why it's relatively low on my list
Dark Souls 2: The worst. Hate how it plays and feels. It often feels very dickish as well
Dark Souls 3: In lacks in a few areas, but the gameplay and design are near perfect.
Bloodborne : The very best. DS story telling plu Lovecraft is genius. Gameplay fits my playstyle much more and is pretty awesome in general.

As for other soul inspired games:
Nioh: God Tier gameplay, not so great everything else. Need to play it some more, haven't played the DLC's at all.
I also need to try more weapons.
Salt and Sanctuary: In many way better then DS1 (again, was never such a huge fan of it), but as a few flaws. Still a must play for fans of the series. I'm looking for a way to replay it but harder, not sure how yet.
Lords of the Fallen: Lol
 

Boddy

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I forgot to mention, I played vanilla DS2, at launch no less, not SOTFS. Replayed it once to get the DLC, which are great.
Hey,hey...I kinda enjoyed it for what it was :)
Maybe I should explain
I don't think is terrible, but unless you really need something vaguely like souls , I see little reason to play this one.
However, we have so many of them now that it seems unnecessary.
 

Ratrat

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How hard/tedious is Dark Souls 2 Sotfs to platinum compared to Bloodborne and DS3?
 

Jimnymebob

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How hard/tedious is Dark Souls 2 Sotfs to platinum compared to Bloodborne and DS3?

I haven't platinumed it yet, but from what I remember, DS2 SotFS lets you get items that you'd normally have to grind from on the NG+'s.

So you don't have to spend hours farming for covenant items for their rewards, you can just go through NG+ and beyond quickly and you can buy them.

For the Blue Sentinels for example, you can either get 500 kills as a member of that covenant, or buy it once you reach NG+2.