iPhone X | OT | Hello Future | November 3

Cochese · Nov 24, 2017

Alabama has a bunch of Xs for some reason, mostly 64GB.

The gap between 64 and 256 is ridiculous. I could probably survive at 64 if I absolutely had to though. Only at 30.5GB of 128 on my 7+. Difference of $7 more a month vs $14 more a month. Or I could get a Watch.

Damn you mid-level management career path!

marc^o^ · Nov 24, 2017

Going back to my wife's iPhone feels insanely awkward. Can't believe I forgot 10 years of using an iPhone that quick.

Martin · Nov 24, 2017

I know this is the iPhone X ot ... but I need help. Going to get my first Apple Watch tomorrow! It is the series 3 gps model and should I use some screen protector?

Enzom21 · Nov 24, 2017

Martin said:
I know this is the iPhone X ot ... but I need help. Going to get my first Apple Watch tomorrow! It is the series 3 gps model and should I use some screen protector?

Not unless you're extremely accident prone. I've had mine for a year and it doesn't have a mark on it.

Vuze · Nov 24, 2017

Martin said:
I know this is the iPhone X ot ... but I need help. Going to get my first Apple Watch tomorrow! It is the series 3 gps model and should I use some screen protector?

Don't sweat it, it's a watch and will show signs of wear no matter what. I put one on my first Apple Watch as well and in hindsight I can't even fathom how silly I was (and regret that I spent like 15 bucks on a pack of - admittedly pretty well thought out - screen protectors). Enjoy the curved beauty naked :D
Just make sure to swap bands over a soft surface, that's the cause for what feels like 98% of "i cracked my watch screen" stories. Screen protectors wouldn't prevent that anyway.

v Apple Care+ advice is good though, forgot to mention it.

freshair · Nov 24, 2017

Martin said:
I know this is the iPhone X ot ... but I need help. Going to get my first Apple Watch tomorrow! It is the series 3 gps model and should I use some screen protector?

No screen protector needed. I'd spring for Apple Care though as it's only $49 and allows you to replace the screen two times for $69 instead of the full cost of $200+

dallow_bg · Nov 24, 2017

Cochese said:
Yeah, you'd have to select all the ones you want individually then bulk download those.

However, with the iCloud for Windows app there is a setting to "Download new photos to my PC." That might work.

That's the app I use on my PC.
Recently downloaded all my photos from iCloud Photos by year very quickly.
All new photos are auto downloaded.

darkvir · Nov 24, 2017

Had my first spinning wheel crash.

Had to google how to Force Reset. It seems ok again.

MrKlaw · Nov 24, 2017

Animal Crossing is cementing my love for this phone. So nice in full screen and my battery is ok

Ashhong · Nov 24, 2017

dallow_bg said:
That's the app I use on my PC.
Recently downloaded all my photos from iCloud Photos by year very quickly.
All new photos are auto downloaded.

And that downloads in the original high quality?

Lunaray · Nov 24, 2017

I finally moved over to the iphone X after 8 years in the Android ecosystem. I was wondering if anyone here had a list of recommended apps they can point me to as I build an iOS app library from scratch. I will happily pay a premium for well-designed and great apps, but would rather shell out one-time rather than pay a recurring subscription. Here are some app categories I had in mind:

Sleep app - I've been using Sleep as Android, and I've heard Sleep Cycle is the best iOS equivalent. Are there any good alternatives that doesn't require a yearly subscription? Does it have smart watch pairing for heart rate monitoring?
Gym/food/lifestyle tracker app - I am pretty much done with myfitnesspal, so any alternatives would be great.
Podcast app - I've found the default podcast app on iOS 11 pretty bad. What's the best app out there right now?
Music\Media app - I use spotify, but want something that can play media that is locally stored on my phone.
Email app - Is Spark worth switching to over the default mail app?
Keyboard app - the default app works fine for me, but if there's something better out there, I'd like to hear it! There are some cool apps out there like grammarly, but it's really expensive.
Camera app - I have no clue about this. Suggestions welcome.
Reddit app - I think Apollo is still the best?

Aside from these categories, are there any cool apps that you love?

iKnackwurst · Nov 24, 2017

Hey guys, I noticed my iPhone X suffers from image retention when the same high contrast image is displayed for a short time (30-60 seconds). For example when opening reddit I can see outlines of my homescreen icons on the grey loading screen. (I have a very dark wallpaper)

If anyone wants to help me determine if my screen is defective or if this is normal behavior please open this https://marco.org/rmbp-irtest.html for about a minute and then switch to the grey image and test if you can still see the pattern.

Wallach · Nov 24, 2017

I wish there was an option to turn off this home bar thing most of the time. It really is intrusive too often.

timeloder · Nov 24, 2017

AJx said:
Not sure why anyone uses Gmail on iOS when you could use Spark.

Airmail is much better

Ashhong · Nov 24, 2017

iKnackwurst said:
Hey guys, I noticed my iPhone X suffers from image retention when the same high contrast image is displayed for a short time (30-60 seconds). For example when opening reddit I can see outlines of my homescreen icons on the grey loading screen. (I have a very dark wallpaper)

If anyone wants to help me determine if my screen is defective or if this is normal behavior please open this https://marco.org/rmbp-irtest.html for about a minute and then switch to the grey image and test if you can still see the pattern.

I did see the pattern a bit. But then I watched as it disappeared. Image retention is normal though.

gabdeg · Nov 24, 2017

iKnackwurst said:
Hey guys, I noticed my iPhone X suffers from image retention when the same high contrast image is displayed for a short time (30-60 seconds). For example when opening reddit I can see outlines of my homescreen icons on the grey loading screen. (I have a very dark wallpaper)

If anyone wants to help me determine if my screen is defective or if this is normal behavior please open this https://marco.org/rmbp-irtest.html for about a minute and then switch to the grey image and test if you can still see the pattern.

Temporary retention will happen with OLED. Unless something doesn't go away after a couple of minutes, don't sweat it.

iKnackwurst · Nov 24, 2017

Greebman said:
Temporary retention will happen with OLED. Unless something doesn't go away after a couple of minutes, don't sweat it.

Thats good to know, this is my first OLED phone and i only remember image retention as a hardware defect that could happen with lcd panels. But that was after several minutes to hours of static images and not a few seconds like it seems to be with oled.

Yoshichan · Nov 24, 2017

Do we have impressive front camera pics with depth of field?

fritolay · Nov 24, 2017

I have the X. It doesn't do much for me. I still could have a 5 and be fine if it was still 100 percent supported.

Segafreak · Nov 24, 2017

Have it for a week now, honestly the best phone I've ever used yet. Everything feels so natural and smooth, it's like I've used it for years. Also best looking phone ever made. The notch is awesome, it's part of the screen yet I never notice it, it's instantly recognizable and people will sometimes comment on the phone.

64GB, cuz I'll leave the 256GB for when I upgrade my iPad, my air 2 looks so bland now I dont wanna use it anymore.

Deleted member 134 · Nov 24, 2017

fritolay said:
I have the X. It doesn't do much for me. I still could have a 5 and be fine if it was still 100 percent supported.

So return it and get an SE.

Roo · Nov 24, 2017

Lunaray said:
I finally moved over to the iphone X after 8 years in the Android ecosystem. I was wondering if anyone here had a list of recommended apps they can point me to as I build an iOS app library from scratch. I will happily pay a premium for well-designed and great apps, but would rather shell out one-time rather than pay a recurring subscription. Here are some app categories I had in mind:

Sleep app - I've been using Sleep as Android, and I've heard Sleep Cycle is the best iOS equivalent. Are there any good alternatives that doesn't require a yearly subscription? Does it have smart watch pairing for heart rate monitoring?

Gym/food/lifestyle tracker app - I am pretty much done with myfitnesspal, so any alternatives would be great.

Podcast app - I've found the default podcast app on iOS 11 pretty bad. What's the best app out there right now?

Music\Media app - I use spotify, but want something that can play media that is locally stored on my phone.

Email app - Is Spark worth switching to over the default mail app?

Keyboard app - the default app works fine for me, but if there's something better out there, I'd like to hear it! There are some cool apps out there like grammarly, but it's really expensive.

Camera app - I have no clue about this. Suggestions welcome.

Reddit app - I think Apollo is still the best?

Aside from these categories, are there any cool apps that you love?

I can't really help you with any of the rest of the apps but when it comes to camera apps you definitely should try Anamorphic. If you like taking pics with DoF then it's the perfect app for you as it lets you edit the bokeh effect for portraits.

fritolay · Nov 24, 2017

AJx said:
So return it and get an SE.

It's for work so that is what I get, and I don't get what makes it great. Glass on the back for what, so people can see you have the X? Apps work .2 seconds faster? I am trying to understand what I have I guess that makes it good.

Enzom21 · Nov 24, 2017

fritolay said:
Glass on the back for what, so people can see you have the X?

Wireless charging.

Ashhong · Nov 24, 2017

fritolay said:
It's for work so that is what I get, and I don't get what makes it great. Glass on the back for what, so people can see you have the X? Apps work .2 seconds faster? I am trying to understand what I have I guess that makes it good.

What makes any phone better than the other?

Doctor Doggo · Nov 24, 2017

Hey, what is a good headphone dongle? Not trying to spend a shit ton of money. I have good earbuds and hate having to use these fucking apple earbuds. Sorry if this has been asked 10000 times.

Deleted member 134 · Nov 24, 2017

fritolay said:
It's for work so that is what I get, and I don't get what makes it great. Glass on the back for what, so people can see you have the X? Apps work .2 seconds faster? I am trying to understand what I have I guess that makes it good.

I think you're trying to be cool tbh. That's fine you have this thought, but to come into a multi page iPhone X thread to do so is so try-hard.

fritolay · Nov 24, 2017

Enzom21 said:
Wireless charging.

Thanks I didn't know that is needed for wireless charging. Do all phones require this for wireless charging?

AJx said:
I think you're trying to be cool tbh. That's fine you have this thought, but to come into a multi page iPhone X thread to do so is so try-hard.

I'm not trying to be cool. I just have the phone and am wondering what people enjoy about it. Because I am not seeing what makes it worth the money.

Lunaray · Nov 24, 2017

Roo said:
I can't really help you with any of the rest of the apps but when it comes to camera apps you definitely should try Anamorphic. If you like taking pics with DoF then it's the perfect app for you as it lets you edit the bokeh effect for portraits.

Thanks! I'll check it out.

Ashhong · Nov 24, 2017

Safeinsound said:
Hey, what is a good headphone dongle? Not trying to spend a shit ton of money. I have good earbuds and hate having to use these fucking apple earbuds. Sorry if this has been asked 10000 times.

The one it comes with is fine

Erebus · Nov 24, 2017

fritolay said:
Thanks I didn't know that is needed for wireless charging. Do all phones require this for wireless charging?

I'm not trying to be cool. I just have the phone and am wondering what people enjoy about it. Because I am not seeing what makes it worth the money.

That's subjective but for me personally nothing can justify THAT money for a phone unless you're really wealthy or you buy a phone every 5 years or something. Having said that I guess the staple of the iPhone X is the gorgeous edge-to-edge Oled display and Face ID. Everything else can be found on the iPhone 8 and to a lesser degree on older iPhones too.

dallow_bg · Nov 24, 2017

Ashhong said:
And that downloads in the original high quality?

Seems like it. Let me check one of the photos taken by my 6S
Res: 4032 x 3024, 24 bit

I can't check the iPhone X pics because they've downloaded in HEIC format!!
Uh oh, haha.

What can I use on PC to view these new format photos? lol

SeanM · Nov 24, 2017

Is anyone else having difficulty "pinching" to expand / shrink videos within the YouTube app? I've only been able to do it like once. Did they change the behavior on the iPhone X? I have to press the button in the bottom right of the video player now cause the pinch gestures no longer seem to do anything.

FinalFanXtreme · Nov 24, 2017

SeanM said:
Is anyone else having difficulty "pinching" to expand / shrink videos within the YouTube app? I've only been able to do it like once. Did they change the behavior on the iPhone X? I have to press the button in the bottom right of the video player now cause the pinch gestures no longer seem to do anything.

No issues here. Works like a charm.

Deleted member 134 · Nov 24, 2017

What's the best way to get mkv onto iPhones and play them? It's been years since I've done it so I imagine there's an elegant way to do so.

Martin · Nov 24, 2017

Enzom21 said:
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Vuze said:
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freshair said:
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Okay thanks! Not going to use a protector :D
And I think I'm going to get apple care+

gamma · Nov 24, 2017

AJx said:
What's the best way to get mkv onto iPhones and play them? It's been years since I've done it so I imagine there's an elegant way to do so.

VLC can transfer files over wifi but it hasn't been updated for the X yet.

Got the Shakes · Nov 24, 2017

AJx said:
What's the best way to get mkv onto iPhones and play them? It's been years since I've done it so I imagine there's an elegant way to do so.

VLC can do a network transfer, but I haven't used it in so long I'm not sure how reliable it is. If you have Plex setup and happen to be a Plex Pass subscriber you could just throw them into one of your folders that Plex Media Server is watching and then download whatever you want straight into the Plex app.

PandaShake · Nov 24, 2017

Got my iphone X for a few days now and I'm loving it. My only grip used to be the notch and the moment I turned it on, it completely disappears to me. I'm fine with letterboxed videos and games because the oled is so good, the letterbox melts into the bezel. Love it. Optimized apps like Animal Crossing looks incredible.

Anyone got any wireless charger recommendations or sales? I'm looking at this.

Edit: Well crap. After I posted this, it's now backordered. Shouldn't have procrastinated.

Doctor Doggo · Nov 24, 2017

Ashhong said:
The one it comes with is fine

Wow, I'm dumb. I thought I saw it with the packaging at one point when I got the phone! And then I thought I was crazy cause I couldn't find it again...until I flipped the other side of the ear bud packaging over...hahaha

amanset · Nov 24, 2017

Wallach said:
I wish there was an option to turn off this home bar thing most of the time. It really is intrusive too often.

As a developer I really wish there was too. Right now we are looking at having to change their entire UI for our game just because of this one phone - or kiss goodbye to ever getting featured on the App Store again (Apple are pretty much guaranteed to not be featuring anything that relies on the compatibility modes). Yes, maybe we could have designed the UI around this - if we'd known about it three years ago. But the ears? The home button hanging in the screen above your game? It is awful.

I utterly despise the iPhone X and it is going to cause me nothing but hassle for some time now. My only hope is that like other missteps that Apple has made in the past this piss-poor design will soon be forgotten by the time the next revision comes around.

And yes, I have used one and yes, I have been an iPhone user since the 3G (I own a 3G, 4, 5S and 6S, as well as two iPads and several Macs).

Deleted member 1062 · Nov 24, 2017

definitely noticing apps reload more often on the X than my 7. Hope they figure that out

SeanM · Nov 24, 2017

FinalFanXtreme said:
No issues here. Works like a charm.

Thanks, blah, I kinda figured since I don't see anyone else complaining about it.

When it's in the regular mode (where you can see the description, comments, related videos etc) I cannot pinch to make it go full screen (landscape) like before. And when it's full screen I cannot 'pinch to close' and go back to regular (portrait) mode, it just does nothing at all. It's only like this on the iPhone X for me, the iPad works fine as did my iPhone 7 before I traded it back. Kind of annoying since I always used gestures to navigate YouTube and now they just don't work for me.

Maybe I'll try re-installing the YouTube app and see if that fixes it.

Incite · Nov 24, 2017

SeanM said:
Is anyone else having difficulty "pinching" to expand / shrink videos within the YouTube app? I've only been able to do it like once. Did they change the behavior on the iPhone X? I have to press the button in the bottom right of the video player now cause the pinch gestures no longer seem to do anything.

It hasn't worked right forme since it was updated. I tried with videos I had uploaded myself and not one of them pinches to zoom but I still get the haptic feedback.
Other videos usually work fine but sometimes random videos don't as well.

bodyofanamerican · Nov 24, 2017

This Overcast OLED/dark black update is AMAZING. I also love the two finger swipe to switch between themes. Good job, Marco.

Omnistalgic · Nov 24, 2017

Think I'm gonna wait for a X+ or something. Like the new design but it's way too small for me. Coming from 6+ I was hoping for something a bit bigger.

Beautiful phone tho

Halbrand · Nov 25, 2017

Anyone in Canada considering the Freedom Mobile plan?

I'm with Freedom at the moment and happy with the 4G data, the plan they're offering is $60/month for 10GB and $50/month for the 256 iPhone X over two years, saving $329 on the cost of the phone.

Anson225 · Nov 25, 2017

Lunaray said:
I finally moved over to the iphone X after 8 years in the Android ecosystem. I was wondering if anyone here had a list of recommended apps they can point me to as I build an iOS app library from scratch. I will happily pay a premium for well-designed and great apps, but would rather shell out one-time rather than pay a recurring subscription. Here are some app categories I had in mind:

Sleep app - I've been using Sleep as Android, and I've heard Sleep Cycle is the best iOS equivalent. Are there any good alternatives that doesn't require a yearly subscription? Does it have smart watch pairing for heart rate monitoring?

Gym/food/lifestyle tracker app - I am pretty much done with myfitnesspal, so any alternatives would be great.

Podcast app - I've found the default podcast app on iOS 11 pretty bad. What's the best app out there right now?

Music\Media app - I use spotify, but want something that can play media that is locally stored on my phone.

Email app - Is Spark worth switching to over the default mail app?

Keyboard app - the default app works fine for me, but if there's something better out there, I'd like to hear it! There are some cool apps out there like grammarly, but it's really expensive.

Camera app - I have no clue about this. Suggestions welcome.

Reddit app - I think Apollo is still the best?

Aside from these categories, are there any cool apps that you love?

I'd recommend overcast for podcast, strong for gym (but it doesn't track food, only gym activities) and gboard for keyboard

jts · Nov 25, 2017

I have this occasional side gig where I live report happenings and overall statistics in sports games via a web interface on my phone. I've done that plenty with my 6s+ but the idea of making it with an X and its OLED is making me anxious. This web interface has a few different pages but the main page is mostly static and some rarer to hit buttons just stay like that the whole time.

I already had the idea of setting accessibility options so I can switch picture modes (to classic or smart invert) on the fly with a triple click on the side button, which I'd do IDK maybe every 10 minutes or so.

Any thoughts on this?

Mario's Nipples · Nov 25, 2017

timeloder said:
Airmail is much better

I prefer the simplicity of Outlook over all.

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