Shush.
This is supposed to be bad news.
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MS is doing what they need to do.
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Kotaku: Microsoft finalizing deal to acquire Obsidian Entertainment
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Shush.
This is supposed to be bad news.
/s
MS is doing what they need to do.
From this:
to this?
So kotor2 or neverwinter nights 2 with better graphics? Why not?
MS likes to follow trends I find, and I say this as a big xbox follower. (Not saying they dont like to innovate in certain areas as well like hololens)
When Cyberpunk sells gangbusters I imagine they will see they own shadowrun and say well we need that right now.
You need to be a prominent member like me bruh.
I think for pretty much all the studios Microsoft bought, it's the latter.
Ninja Theory was having a difficult time, but Hellblade sold well. When Microsoft approached them, they had a really long talk and they (NT) felt it would be the best for the studio to be bought out. They only asked Microsoft allow them complete creative control. (They have a good Youtube video explaining why they were bought out)
Compulsion seems like a creative studio but Contract and We Happy Few have done so-so (around 60-65 on metacritic) critically and possibly commercially. It's hard being a indie developer these days.
Undead Labs and Playground games have had a close relationship to Microsoft since they opened, so it made sense for Microsoft to buy them and support them. Turn 10 basically gave Playground their engine and assets and helped make the Forza Horizon games.
And finally with Obsidian, the studios just had some real problems over the years going as far back as KOTOR II. Time constraints, budget problems, almost closing a few times, etc. This is definitely the case of if Microsoft (or another publisher) does not buy them, there's a good chance they'll close down or dramatically resize.
I am in the process of modding New Vegas with about 200 mods including several overhauls, major graphical upgrades and many quests. I am calling it New Vegas 2.0! Bring it on.
Congrats to the people at Obsidian and I'm" rooting for them; knowing that level of stability is coming from being under a platform holder has got to be very comforting after working on the edge for so long.
Holy fuck! I completely forgot Microsoft had that license. I would be all over that...
It's complex: https://www.resetera.com/threads/ch...forced-him-to-never-work-on-rpgs-again.40245/
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Having talked to both Feargus (off the record) and Chris over the past couple of days, I'm keeping an eye out and continuing to listen and report but... this is a tricky one. Not sure there's some sort of smoking gun of wrongdoing here -- just a complicated dispute, multiple perspectives, and a whole lot of office politics. I like all of the parties involved and I hope they find some sort of resolution.
South Park was not low budget. And low budget games can suck just as much as big budget.
Why are you attacking their enjoyment of Obsidian games? Because they are glad that they aren't going to go out of business? Do you want Obsidian to go the way of Telltale?
There is nothing noble about defending anything from "selling out".
I kind of like the isometric version better :P. We shall see what happens but KOTOR 2 and New Vegas were very good (modded) and Alpha Protocol was good despite a lot of its flaws.
Going to be a fun watching these studio purchases unfold. I'm in favour of Gamepass, sorry guys. Hope MS get as much on there as they can.
Maaaaan. This has really never crossed my mind as a possibility until your post.
When I see posts like that I feels like Im in OT with all the "______ to own the libs" vibes Im getting, and even then they aren't even willfully fucking over themselves, just other people.
Honestly this is the one thing that would allow them to re-hire him.
Both games also have 'Very Positive' review statuses on Steam.
The point is, your definition of "noteworthy" must be extremely screwed up. Double and triple down, move the goal posts all you want. Your statement was nonsense.
When I see posts like that I feel like Im in OT with all the "______ to own the libs" vibes Im getting, and even then they aren't even willfully fucking over themselves, just other people and their jobs all for..... a piece of plastic.
Wait, isn't the cost to actually run all these new studios more significant when compared to price of acquisition? So when they acquire studios, isn't the problem they have to take a bigger part of their budget to run them? It seems to me, microsoft studios has received quite the budget boost to run studios compared to when they only had 5 studios and it is obvious they're stll looking to expand, so they might not see a return on that investment for a while. I would argue microsoft wasn't as commited to first party before exactly because of that, it would take a while to reap the benefits of it all, so maybe a combination of the perception they have fewer games than the competition (both critically acclaimed and sales success, the advent of game pass and the streaming future, the focus inside microsoft shifted to having a robust first party (Phil says they want it to be industry leading, that'll be really hard) and as a result microsoft studios got a sizable budget increase.
The wildcard here seems to be microsoft global publishing, where in the past they relied on it a lot to bolster their first party (as a shorte term solution instead of commiting to a higher budget to run studios), it remains to be seen how reliant they'll be on it in the future and if it got a budget increase too (logic dictates that if they have a lot of inhouse teams, they don't need as many microsoft global publishing games). What are you expecting?
I bet they don't like the current situation where they don't own IP's like it's main competitor goes for when striking a deal with a third party publisher. Phil also keeps saying he's not a fan of these exclusive deals like we had with Tomb Raider, so what better way to avoid that then by owning the studio?
I just can't ascribe to the theory of MS (or Sony) buying a studio, with the primary reason being to prevent those games from appearing on another platform. Maybe if the argument was about timed exclusive dlc, I'd listen, but not about studios. These are investments made to strengthen they're portfolio.
It's too large of an investment to make for such a pretty reason.
I can only hope for the best. I'd love to see an RPG renaissance and a great reason to buy the next Xbox after sitting out Microsoft's entries into this generation. That would be good news all around, as far as I'm concerned.
The worry is, of course, that Microsoft will show the same inability to manage and inspire a creative team that has been the hallmark of acquisitions like Rare and Bungie. Showing interest in acquiring talent is great. Showing aptitude for getting good results out of them is something else. Here's hoping!
The worry is, of course, that Microsoft will show the same inability to manage and inspire a creative team that has been the hallmark of acquisitions like Rare and Bungie. Showing interest in acquiring talent is great. Showing aptitude for getting good results out of them is something else. Here's hoping!
Or you can pay 10 bucks for games pass...or even get it for free each month if you use Microsoft Rewards and blow your 40 PS4 game library out of the water with hundreds of games pass games, including whatever Obsidian puts out and get it with games pass day 1 since its an MS exclusive game.
1) In these cases, yes, but it's still nothing compared to buying a publisher, who would then also have massive costs to run, and laying off people is actually pretty expensive as well.
2) MS is focusing more on in-house development.
So is what MS doing an overall good thing or not? Are they making the industry more stable with these acquisitions? More quality games are going to be made?
Also I'm happy for Xbox fans, but some of y'all are being mean. People just don't want their favorite publishers making content on a platform they don't play on. These acquisitions don't effect me, but I would be annoyed if SEGA or something got bought out. You get comfy in your ecosystem.
You should see IOS vs Android threads!
I think the thing that should provide some confidence in Microsoft is their want to get their content everywhere they can. Hamstringing studios to things like Kinect only caused those initiatives to sputter and allowing these new studios to run mostly how they were but with maybe some altered deadlines and budgets should lead to some really solid titles out of each group.
Sounds to me that you're the perfect potential Game Pass customer.
Yep. I also want to direct you guys to this post:
https://www.resetera.com/posts/11214857/
Obsidian Entertainment letter-of-intent for an acquisition by MS. Dated before E3. No written sign of a MS employee (only Obsidian). I'm not as sure on this one as I was with the Playground Games LOI I got access to earlier this year. That's all I have right now. Hope that's transparent enough for you guys. I can't validate it any further, I'm sorry.
Like, some of y'all mad because Obsidian wants to be fucking bought out and have job security. Stop it. This isn't console wars this is peoples lives and well being.
Yeah that's true about 1 and I was expecting 2 as well, it's only logical they focus on in-house development going forward and I think it's for the best too.
The first rule of the RPG community is you do not talk about the RPG community.
The second game was the now cancelled Fable Legends. I am just interested to see whether Obsidian will be putting forth a new IP or will they be put in charge of Fable or a Halo Wars RPG game.
This This adds so much to MS 1st party line up. A true solid RPG dev.
Yeah this is exactly why I'm not a fan of publishers buying publishers. Even if the honest intention is to keep as many jobs as possible, there will still be overlapping positions, so some people will lose their jobs and no one should want that.
Sure, imagine all the jobs that would have been lost if someone bought Telltale.
Yeah. I get the feeling they're never gonna fully paper over what happened, but man, losing Chris was a major blow for Obsidian. Obviously not a final nail in the coffin, but it's the kind of loss that will be felt for a long time. Like Tomokazu Fukushima leaving Metal Gear-level.
I'm not sure what point you are trying to make considering I twice in that post said this was not a hard rule.
Thanks. That's too bad, Avellone always struck me as a class act, it seems like Obsidian tried to bully him.
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