Unfortunately, when it comes to politics at that level, things are so abstracted from real world consequences they get normalized.
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Michelle Obama: George W. Bush is my ‘partner in crime’
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Also don't forget, she and her husband had the temerity to go to a concert in Paris while Trump is president and the democrat party is dying!!!!!
Good. Because here motto was trash to. "When they go high, we go low" probably turned away more voters than comey's Letter.
My list could have been much longer, really. Bush was a horrible president and human being.
Yeah, this especially. Incredibly tone deaf and eye opening, really.
I guess, in perspective, when you climb into bed each night with a guy who assassinated American citizens without due process in drone strikes, Bush might seem like a normal guy.
We need actual fucking change in this country.
We need actual fucking change in this country.
Not even that, since you can't compare the two crimes in this case.
True. I just didn't want it inadvertently missed since it was...well one of many of his constant fuck ups.
Now, now don't let assassination of American civilians without due process become a purity test.
He seems like an enjoyable guy at the surface level, he has always been one to visit one of the allied countries and melt hearts because he seemed like a kid at heart. I remember him visiting Colombia and like dancing with the music and we ate it up.
Ultimately she isn't condoning or approving the shit he did while in office. Plus if they have to continue to sit together, why insult him.
Ultimately she isn't condoning or approving the shit he did while in office. Plus if they have to continue to sit together, why insult him.
This is the mentality of people that were very young under Bush. Bush's effect on the world is like a gallery of horrors.
Yeah, I think that this will be the last time I'm reading a political thread on era. You people genuinely don't give a fuck about people of color in third world countries until it conveniently suits your party.
If any leader can figure out a way to take on the military-industrial complex that undergirds the American empire and win I'd be shocked.
Yep.
This forum (rightly) piles up on any one who tries to make people like Duterte, Bolsonaro, Trump etc seem decent. And all of those people put together haven't done a fraction of the damage that Bush (KNOWINGLY) did.
This isnt a purity test. Its not even the bare fucking minimum.
This is why I Lol, each time people suggest she should run.
The Obama's are simply not what we need guys, they are naive and think the other side is willing to compromise. Hell, we were forced to nuke the filibuster for nominations because that is how partisan the GOP is, and yet they want us to think of them as "allies".
The Obama's are simply not what we need guys, they are naive and think the other side is willing to compromise. Hell, we were forced to nuke the filibuster for nominations because that is how partisan the GOP is, and yet they want us to think of them as "allies".
At this rate you'll have no allies if you keep thinking like that and holding people to impossible social standards.
Focus? You call one thread and people writing a couple of comments focus? No, this is just a distasteful morsel so to speak.
Trump getting elected took millions thinking there was no need to vote. That's what should be focused on.
About Bush's Iraq War legacy? That's not true at all. There are enough cold hard facts to make a pretty good assessment.
Lol the impossible standard of not praising horrible people who got hundreds of thousands of people killed. How can anyone achieve such a lofty goal?! It is a merit only a god could obtain!
Shocking isn't it? Swear to God I thought people would have more sense.
Some even have the gall to call this a "purity test".
Hasn't even been 20 years, man.
Blind ass motherfuckers. Don't even know if I should call it racism, but it sure as hell feels like it.
See what I mean? "Nothing".
Not to mention the world we live in now is in large part a consequence of Bush's disastrous presidency, from the Iraq War - which destablilised the Middle East, helping to create ISIS and thus worsen the refugee crisis - to the Recession - a downturn that we are still reeling from long after it swung back.
Really, in a time of some of the greatest partisanship in U.S's history, you think its a good idea for Democrats to be seen as liking or compromising with the other side when the other side does all it can to ruin this country?
That is what is wrong with it. Way to disillusion the already disillusioned base because Democrats come out as compromising with the uncompromising.
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He's intelligent because he reads books?
Anyway, i guess he's smarter than he seems.
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You know what doesn't affect anything and is a "waste of time"? Discussion of videogames, anime, and superhero movies. You do realize where you're writing this, right?
The only reason some buy the idea that Trump is worse is simply because social media wasn't even a thing with Bush and outrage wasn't nearly as pervasive. If Bush was in office today with today's media and peoples ability to organize now? I couldn't even imagine the protests and unrest.
I honestly thought she was talking about him in a general fashion, not actually referring to seating arrangements and him being nice to her at official get togethers. The bit where she says:
"I love him to death," she said of the former president. "He's a wonderful man. He's a funny man."
Is kinds eh, but the going into the thread I thought this was going to be a lot worse than it actually was due to the title.
Between 6 and 11 million protested against Bush and his war over a single weekend in February 2003. Over 30 million ended up protesting against him from Jan to Apr of that year. The largest single day/weekend protest against Trump was the Women's March, which was estimated to be around 7 million global protestors (overwhelming majority were in the US). Bush even before social media became as big as it is now, had more people protest and demonstrate against him.
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If the Obamas are ok with Bush I'm ok with him.
If you want to cast the Obama's as bad people now because of this that's on you.
But there is a huge disconnect with the people react here and how public opinion reaction will be to this.
Wow..Bush is OK, huh?
Explains the Bush love, ignorance is bliss.
I remember how some were popping off on people from the Philippines for loving and excusing Duterte the mad man.
This is how, they can't even see it.
Willful ignorance is one of America's most abundant resources, so that's not surprising.
Fix it? Just don't speak glowingly and become besties with war criminals. You act like Bush is the only person they can talk to. There is pretty much everyone else because war criminals are really rare so choosing not to embrace one is very easy.
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Like someone said earlier, Bush never was seen as a war criminal by most Americans, even back then.
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