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MondoMega · Oct 12, 2018

Hikari said:
Even then your argument would be stupid cause people would know her some way or another from crossovers.

Are her crossover appearances really that large that people would resonate with her out of the large casts of those games? In Namco × Capcom and the Project X Zone games, she's only one of the characters in a really large cast. The Super Robot Taisen series isn't really large at all, so I doubt that would have any impact either. Her Xenoblade Chronicles 2 appearance was too late for the base game, and the rest of her appearances are non-playable cameos or costumes.

wedl said:
psudeo-nintendo character like bayonetta, geno or kosmos

So we're counting KOS-MOS as a pseudo-Nintendo character after one appearance in a first-party game? okay... I do agree with the rest of your post though, Tekken is definitely notable enough to stand out from Street Fighter and find it's own place in Smash.

NotLiquid · Oct 12, 2018

ShinobiBk said:
"Thanks for helping us make the game but Nintendo fans don't really care about your IPs so no more characters ok"

KOS-MOS literally only currently relevant cause Monolith locked her behind ridiculous levels of Gacha rng

I'd say the fact that she's a fan favorite character who received a very notable design upgrade and was allowed to co-star in a Nintendo first party title is the main reason she's relevant. Her announcement was one of the things that created the biggest buzz for the game on social media. People really love the character and didn't expect her to show up in another non-spinoff game, let alone a Nintendo one.

r_n · Oct 12, 2018

we talking namco reps again

MondoMega · Oct 12, 2018

r_n said:
we talking namco reps again

I mean, I don't know if this is true or not, but apparently the music that plays during his portion of the final Smash Direct is a unique arrangement and hasn't been heard anywhere else.

Sterok · Oct 12, 2018

If KOS-MOS gets in, it'll be due to being an honorary Nintendo character ala Bayonetta. I am kind of surprised at how many potential reps Namco has without a clear standout.

KtotheRoc · Oct 12, 2018

Who's the most likely of Namco's Soul series? Mitsurugi? Siegfried? Cervantes? Sophitia? Taki?

Chalphy · Oct 12, 2018

Considering that KOS-MOS is getting a Xenoblade branded scale figure, I think she fits the role of honorary Nintendo character.

Weiss · Oct 12, 2018

KtotheRoc said:
Who's the most likely of Namco's Soul series? Mitsurugi? Siegfried? Cervantes? Sophitia? Taki?

Nightmare is the face of the series, but maybe Mitsurugi could get in.

RockmanBN · Oct 12, 2018

wedl said:
heihachi and ryu represent two different genres of fighters but it's debatable whether or not that distinguishing factor matters all that much when smash is firmly a 2d game
i think he carries more mascot power and distinguishing features than lloyd, which is more important. tekken is an internationally renowned series and tekken 3 was one of the defining games of the 5th generation, but it's not really a nintendo game. lloyd represents tales of symphonia, which is beloved but not necessarily smash-material popular nor is he a psudeo-nintendo character like bayonetta, geno or kosmos

heihachi is also way more unique among the roster- there's only one other traditional fighter, ryu, and heihachi is way more brutal. he also has a built in wavedash! the current smash roster already has a lot of nimble bishounen swordfighters, so lloyd wouldn't stick out very much.

How is KOS-MOS a pseudo-Nintendo character?

Deleted member 36578 · Oct 12, 2018

KtotheRoc said:
Who's the most likely of Namco's Soul series? Mitsurugi? Siegfried? Cervantes? Sophitia? Taki?

Nightmare or Kilik

MondoMega · Oct 12, 2018

KtotheRoc said:
Who's the most likely of Namco's Soul series? Mitsurugi? Siegfried? Cervantes? Sophitia? Taki?

Yoshimitsu would be a Tekken rep and a Soul Calibur rep. Have fans vote to decide the eight designs used for his costumes.

Weiss · Oct 12, 2018

RockmanBN said:
How is KOS-MOS a pseudo-Nintendo character?

Appearing as a character in a Nintendo game.

Honestly, I think she's the most likely Namco rep.

ClickyCal' · Oct 12, 2018

RockmanBN said:
How is KOS-MOS a pseudo-Nintendo character?

Not sure. Isn't she known for being a sony character?

HockeyBird · Oct 12, 2018

RockmanBN said:
How is KOS-MOS a pseudo-Nintendo character?

She was made by Monolith who are part of Nintendo. She appears as a guest blade in Xenoblade 2. She's basically just making cameos in Monolith developed games.

Hikari · Oct 12, 2018

Chalphy said:
Considering that KOS-MOS is getting a Xenoblade branded scale figure, I think she fits the role of honorary Nintendo character.

Yep, this is going to be huge for her popularity. Can't wait to get one myself.

ClickyCal' · Oct 12, 2018

Weiss said:
Appearing as a character in a Nintendo game.

Honestly, I think she's the most likely Namco rep.

That doesn't make her a psuedo nintendo character. Bayonetta had her second game wii u exclusive and 3 is too, the series is nintendo now. Geno is basically straight up a mario character, but just owned by se. Kosmos is a character that cameod in a nintendo game.

NeonZ · Oct 12, 2018

KtotheRoc said:
Who's the most likely of Namco's Soul series? Mitsurugi? Siegfried? Cervantes? Sophitia? Taki?

Nightmare. But they'd never include a Soul Calibur character before a Tekken one, unfortunately. Well... unless people start massively requesting for one.

RockmanBN said:
How is KOS-MOS a pseudo-Nintendo character?

She's a Monolith character, although from when they were owned by Namco.

Imran · Oct 12, 2018

For the record that tweet everyone went nuts about wasn't talking about Namco.

L Thammy · Oct 12, 2018

LoboRundas said:
Hey, if Bayonetta can have huge disembodied arms and legs appear out of thin air, why would if be trouble for huge robot arms? just add some sci-fi effects or something, maybe they materialize and then disappear in a cyber-style effect, and you're done!

Okay, so in line with this, how would everyone feel if Michael Anderson was the Isabelle to Bayonetta?

KtotheRoc said:
Who's the most likely of Namco's Soul series? Mitsurugi? Siegfried? Cervantes? Sophitia? Taki?

Siegfried almost definitely. He's basically the main character of the series whether as a hero or villain. Mitsurugi's presented like the Ryu on the character select screen and some early game materials but he's a useless fuck outside of gameplay. Plus, they don't need to hire a new voice actor in Japan if they go with Siegfried!

NotLiquid · Oct 12, 2018

yuoke said:
That doesn't make her a psuedo nintendo character. Bayonetta had her second game wii u exclusive and 3 is too, the series is nintendo now. Geno is basically straight up a mario character, but just owned by se. Kosmos is a character that cameod in a nintendo game.

Benzychenz · Oct 12, 2018

Hikari said:
Yep, this is going to be huge for her popularity. Can't wait to get one myself.

A figure is going to make a character popular?

....what

L Thammy · Oct 12, 2018

Benzychenz said:
A figure is going to make a character popular?

....what

which smash character is the most popular as a dakimakura

ClickyCal' · Oct 12, 2018

Imran said:
For the record that tweet everyone went nuts about wasn't talking about Namco.

BassForever · Oct 12, 2018

Imran said:
For the record that tweet everyone went nuts about wasn't talking about Namco.

Hmm

NotLiquid · Oct 12, 2018

Imran said:
For the record that tweet everyone went nuts about wasn't talking about Namco.

I think most of us already zeroed in on the Square portion of your comments throughout most of these last couple of months of discussion

DecoReturns · Oct 12, 2018

People went nuts for a tweet?

Weiss · Oct 12, 2018

Imran said:
For the record that tweet everyone went nuts about wasn't talking about Namco.

Uh oh.

MondoMega · Oct 12, 2018

Imran said:
For the record that tweet everyone went nuts about wasn't talking about Namco.

I'm scared for some posters in this thread now.

DecoReturns said:
People went nuts for a tweet?

This one

Benzychenz · Oct 12, 2018

What tweet?

Ryce · Oct 12, 2018

I personally consider honorary Nintendo characters to have starred in Nintendo-published games, like Banjo-Kazooie and Bayonetta. KOS-MOS doesn't apply. She's just one of several dozen Blades in Xenoblade 2.

ClickyCal' · Oct 12, 2018

NotLiquid said:

Ports? That doesn't put her at geno/bayo's level. Either way, I don't see her as the most likely namco character. Still think that is heihachi, and llyod might be up there.

L Thammy · Oct 12, 2018

Benzychenz said:
What tweet?

RockmanBN · Oct 12, 2018

DecoReturns said:
People went nuts for a tweet?

You're in a Smash thread with people starving for new information, what'd ya expect?

DecoReturns · Oct 12, 2018

I like T-Elos because she's better in Xenoblade 2.

Deleted member 36578 · Oct 12, 2018

G E N O

ClickyCal' · Oct 12, 2018

DecoReturns said:
People went nuts for a tweet?

You haven't seen all the discussions about his tweet here?

Deleted member 401 · Oct 12, 2018

He's obviously referring to the fact that there's only one Platinum rep (Star Fox characters don't count).

NotLiquid · Oct 12, 2018

yuoke said:
Ports? That doesn't put her at geno/bayo's level. Either way, I don't see her as the most likely namco character. Still think that is heihachi, and llyod might be up there.

It's a remake.

Benzychenz · Oct 12, 2018

Oh the one from 2 months ago. Yawn.

DecoReturns · Oct 12, 2018

RockmanBN said:
You're in a Smash thread with people starving for new information, what'd ya expect?

It's Imran. He much more credible, so him mentioning a tweet actually intrigued me.

I'm here a lot, but I easily miss stuff

ClickyCal' · Oct 12, 2018

Benzychenz said:
Oh the one from 2 months ago. Yawn.

That's kind of a big deal. Makes a namco character even less likely.

MondoMega · Oct 12, 2018

Ryce said:
I personally consider honorary Nintendo characters to have starred in Nintendo-published games, like Banjo-Kazooie and Bayonetta. KOS-MOS doesn't apply. She's just one of several dozen Blades in Xenoblade 2.

Yep, this. On a related note, I would even put Banjo a step above Bayonetta as an ex-Nintendo character, because he was outright owned by Nintendo at one point.

Nocturnowl · Oct 12, 2018

The tweet is actually about how things are about to get more uneven when Shadow and Ken are added.

Deleted member 401 · Oct 12, 2018

MondoMega said:
Yep, this. On a related note, I would even put Banjo a step above Bayonetta as an ex-Nintendo character, because they outright owned him at one point

As I understand it, NoA's then-CEO pretty much handed Rare the full, perpetual rights to Banjo-Kazooie and Killer Instinct as a show of good will.

Hailinel · Oct 12, 2018

Believe in KOS-MOS.

B E L I E V E

Nocturnowl · Oct 12, 2018

Baron von Loathsome said:
As I understand it, NoA's then-CEO pretty much handed Rare the full, perpetual rights to Banjo-Kazooie and Killer Instinct as a show of good will.

If only he knew what he had wrought.

DecoReturns · Oct 12, 2018

I solved it.

3 Konami Reps
3 Capcom reps with Ken &
3 Square Reps.

No way I'm wrong.

Nelo Ice · Oct 12, 2018

Whew just preordered another special edition along with RDR2 special edition. Was hoping it would pop up again since I bought the $150 in BB GCs deal and got a $15 promo code. Used that along with the GC. And cancelled my original order.

NotLiquid · Oct 12, 2018

Ryce said:
I personally consider honorary Nintendo characters to have starred in Nintendo-published games, like Banjo-Kazooie and Bayonetta. KOS-MOS doesn't apply. She's just one of several dozen Blades in Xenoblade 2.

I mean, she's starring in a Nintendo-published game.

If you want to be technical, you can call it a cameo, but at that point it's a semantics argument as far as I'm concerned, especially with how close of a relationship Nintendo and Bandai Namco seem to have. The character is most closely associated with Monolithsoft, regularly shows up in Monolithsoft developed titles, and the company is owned by Nintendo.

Jraphics Horse · Oct 12, 2018

Nocturnowl said:
The tweet is actually about how things are about to get more uneven when Shadow and Ken are added.

But there were 3 Konami reps when that was made if you count echoes.

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