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Oct 25, 2017
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Less than a month before the midterms, Democrats are fretting about the Latino vote — both the percentages they will receive, and more importantly, turnout levels — as a variable that could minimize or maximize their national gains. There is plenty of evidence that Trump's rhetoric and policies have indeed angered a lot of Latino voters. But there is counter-evidence suggesting that a durable minority of Latinos will continue to support Trump and his party, as Leon Krauze notes this week:

While Trump was enacting his anti-immigrant agenda, Latino voters seemed to have slowly warmed up to the president. In last week's NPR/PBS/Marist poll, 41 percent of Hispanics approved of Trump's performance (black Americans? 12 percent). This is no outlier. Another recent poll put Trump's approval among Latinos at 35 percent. An average of both would put Trump—again, an overtly nativist president—within about 10 points of Barack Obama's 49 percent approval among Hispanic at roughly the same time in his presidency.

Trump himself won29 percent of the Latino vote in 2016, according to exit polls, two points more than Mitt Romney did in 2012. Roughly a third of Latino voters self-identify as conservative, and a fourth self-identify as Republicans (with more being Republican-leaning independents). And there are pockets where Republican voting habits are stronger than average, notably in Florida with its traditionally pro-GOP Cuban population, and Texas, where Republicans have worked hard to win Mexican-American votes. The fast-growing minority of Latinos who are evangelical Protestants are, unsurprisingly, more prone to vote Republican, too. And while younger Latinos are more liberal than their elders, they are also less attached to the Democratic Party.


http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/10/democrats-latino-voting-problem-isnt-new-but-its-urgent.html
 

Yams

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Oct 25, 2017
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Man I know a lot of Mexican-Americans here in Central Cal that love what he's doing. They're throwing our people under the bus just to fit in and it makes me sick
 

Jonnax

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Oct 26, 2017
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Don't a lot of Latino people identify as white?
I mean look at Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. If they were in power they'd have no qualms with putting foreign children in cages.
 

gutter_trash

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Oct 26, 2017
17,124
Montreal
Conservative parties exist in many Latin American countries.


A Latino who comes from a politically conservative family and immigrates to the US will likely remain conservative.

and of course you got the "Fuck You Got Mine" types
 

Lunar Wolf

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Nov 6, 2017
16,237
Los Angeles
My dad's Mexican and supports Trump. It's mostly about profit though. He's rich so Trump's tax cuts are exactly what he voted him in for.

I got a couple Hispanic classmates that are in the Marines and police and they support Trump as well.

They've really bought into the idea that he's for "law and order" and that it's only the illegal ones that he's after. It makes me sad especially since they're good chaps otherwise but being in the cops/marines shifts you in the right-wing direction.
 

Judau

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Oct 28, 2017
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Man I know a lot of Mexican-Americans here in Central Cal that love what he's doing. They're throwing our people under the bus just to fit in and it makes me sick

But why? Why would anyone who's not a straight white male approve of anything that orange fuck does? FFS...
 

Lunar Wolf

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Nov 6, 2017
16,237
Los Angeles
Don't a lot of Latino people identify as white?
I mean look at Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. If they were in power they'd have no qualms with putting foreign children in cages.

Some of the non-whites support him too but yeah, I've noticed a more "white Latinos" go in that direction moreso than their their obviously mixed brethren. That's anecdotal evidence though.
 

BoosterDuck

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Oct 25, 2017
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a lot of Latinos out there who either identify as white or believe themselves to be one of the 'good ones' or live in hardcore religious communities that push 'family values'

we're not the type of coalition that people are lead to believe
 

RM8

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Oct 28, 2017
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I just want to remind everyone that Mexico just elected a leftist president, and it was by a landslide. Mexico =/= American Latinos. I think it needs to be mentioned because these threads invite very dumb generalizations.
 
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Powdered Egg

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Oct 27, 2017
17,070
Tio Tomas!! Lmao. I know more than a handful myseld. Some are delusion thinking they're considered White here like they are back home.

Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz will be considered full White in 225 years.
 

sapien85

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Nov 8, 2017
5,427
My dad's Mexican and supports Trump. It's mostly about profit though. He's rich so Trump's tax cuts are exactly what he voted him in for.

I got a couple Hispanic classmates that are in the Marines and police and they support Trump as well.

They've really bought into the idea that he's for "law and order" and that it's only the illegal ones that he's after. It makes me sad especially since they're good chaps otherwise but being in the cops/marines shifts you in the right-wing direction.

Trump admin plans want to cut 2/3 of legal immigration too let them now.
 

Zeusy

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Oct 30, 2017
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I'm Mexican, and live in WA. So my view is a very minimal. However every mexMexi I know up here hates Trump. I think that percentage is heavily coming from Texas, Miami, and New York
 

gutter_trash

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Oct 26, 2017
17,124
Montreal
Yep, you just need to look at whats happening in Brazil


the mistake many Americans make is lump all Latinos into one big giant group while some Latinos don't get along with other Latinos from different countries.

You got the political baggage of some. Many Chileans who fled Pinochet tend to lean Left; while many Cubans who fled Castro tend to lean Right.
 

-JD-

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Oct 27, 2017
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Speaking from familial experience, a lot of these sorts of supporters are those who've gained prosperity via the agricultural industry, such as the higher ups and management of huge companies like Andy Boy Produce or Central Valley Seeds. It's all about taxes to them. I've had these kinds of arguments with my step-dad and his work friends. Who needs dignity when tax breaks are on the line.
 

Powdered Egg

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Oct 27, 2017
17,070
This is also a reason why minorities today can't get too comfortable and need to practice group economics or something. Social progress will jump flip backwards whenever everything is automated and the White social heirarchy replenishes their stock by including Light Hispanics. As this points out many of them are getting their mentally smh.

The longer the Democrats keep dickin around by resisting The Left, the worse it's going to be for us that are permabanned from the White club.
 

smurfx

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Oct 25, 2017
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i'm a mexican from los angeles and i don't know one mexican that likes trump. then again i rarely talk about politics at work so who knows what many really think. wonder what the percentages are in other states. not like trump has any chance of winning california.
 

pixelation

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Oct 26, 2017
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It's because they don't think of themselves as Latinos, i have relatives dumb enough to somehow think that the fact that they were born and or raised in the US gets rid of their gross latino roots. It sickens me to the core, they couldn't care less about their own blood being affected by that thing's doings.
 

Dierce

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Oct 27, 2017
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Even white people who support an ignorant turd like trump makes me sick. They could at least pick someone who fit into their bullshit mold of pretending to be traditionalist and not a blatant liar and adulterer. I have absolutely no explanation for this other than this country is filled with masochists.
 

Slime

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think this has a lot to do with Democrats oftentimes assuming that "Latinx issues = just immigration."
 

Quzar

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Oct 31, 2017
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Yup, my mom is one of them. I don't know how you can come up from a poor upbringing then act like you're better than others once you find success. Lots of Latinos out there thinking they're one of the "good ones". Really disgusting behavior to throw your culture under the bus like that.
 

Dekim

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Oct 28, 2017
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This is why I always thought that notion that if we just wait for the white population to shrink and be replaced by minority majority populations then everything will be fine politically is foolish. Conservatism, conservative politics, and conservative policy will always have a large audience and be a powerful force in the American political scene. This thought that this new, emerging minority majority population coming in the next 2-3 decades will automatically be progressive and vote accordingly is dangerously naive.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I just want to remind everyone that Mexico just elected a leftist president, and it was by a landslide. Mexico =/= American Latinos. I think it needs to be mentioned because these threads invite very dumb generalizations.

I think you just need to say that in Mexico the right-wing candidate had UBI as one of his campaign promises, mexican politics is just a whole different beast entirely.
 

Tetra-Grammaton-Cleric

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Oct 28, 2017
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As hard as it is for me to wrap my head around this insanity, it's really no different than women supporting an admitted 'pussy-grabber' and Olympic level misogynist.
 

Reversed

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Oct 25, 2017
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Can see it. Commodities in, conformity on the rise. For any wrong incident, it gets whatabout-ed.
 

Kite

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Oct 25, 2017
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I keep on telling ya'll, I see posts here saying that the US will be more progressive less white people and laugh. People assume that all the brown and yellow people are socially liberal and shake my head at how out of touch posters here are.
 

gutter_trash

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Oct 26, 2017
17,124
Montreal
Most Cuban Americans I've known are die hard republicans, not sure why.

fidel-castro-sm.jpg
 

hateradio

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Oct 28, 2017
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welcome, nowhere
Just like poor whites, they want some of that tax credit and religious "conservatism" that the GOP profess.

Just like rich whites, they want some of that tax credit, give or take the "conservatism".

I also feel like those that do end up voting more R are usually influenced by their white bosses who are also Republican.

Fucking ashamed of my people. Pendejos.
Pretty much.