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EDM Era |OT| We're All Deaf Now
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I think they're referring to Big Room all the way to Trance i.e., high energy genres. You can tell because he/she said, "more of the chill, rhythmic, and beat driven EDM." I'm assuming genres that don't focus on drops and climaxes.
So more like pop music?
I get the other impression. It's more popular than ever but like... EDM is not a single genre there's various styles that gain and lose popularity over time but overall I'd say it's getting bigger.
I guess, but trance doesn't always fall under that. And if he's looking for rhythmic melodies, well, it doesn't get any better than trance. But I think Lane 8 is perfect for them then. Anybody on the Anjunadeep label as well like Spencer Brown.
He's headlining Decadence AZ. So not sure how well that argument holds up. But ever since 2013 people have been saying that the EDM bubble's burst. I think if you're comparing it to a time when Skrillex was headlining every festival then no, it's not as popular, but it's still pretty big. I think something like 70,000 people attended HARD summer this year, and EDC still pulls 400,000 people for the weekend.
EDM's bubble hasn't burst regardless of what Pitchfork writers seem to want to say over and over again. This is exactly why I get upset when people try and separate EDM from techno/trance/traditional genres. It's all electronic dance music. It's the same shit that happened in the 90's with "intelligent dance music." Stop making it two things. It's so dumb that there are 3 difference electronic music threads on this site.
I mean even people in EDM threads have told me "it's a totally different genre." So fucking dumb. I get wanting to separate stuff that really isn't dance music like Autechre or Aphex Twin but when you're trying to separate Calvin Harris from Claude Vonstroke because you don't like Rihanna or because Calvin Harris spins records in Vegas then you are losing the point.
I guess the main reason people do that is because if you're only ever listening to commercial 3 min 30 second long EDM radio edit pop songs then you really don't have a clue about EDM. Basically you're just someone who likes pop music. Nothing wrong with that. But like... If you can't enjoy a nice trance track or some hardstyle or drum & bass or dubstep etc... It doesn't even have to be all of the genres, but a few at least... If you can't even enjoy that then don't bother calling yourself someone who likes EDM.
The same goes for artists too... If your latest album is full of a features, guest appereances and remixes and no tracks that only have you as an artist in the metadata and all of them are radio friendly tracks then you're just a fucking pop artist. I don't care if your music is influenced by some EDM if it sounds like random pop music anyway. So Calvin Harris... yeah no...
The same goes for artists too... If your latest album is full of a features, guest appereances and remixes and no tracks that only have you as an artist in the metadata and all of them are radio friendly tracks then you're just a fucking pop artist. I don't care if your music is influenced by some EDM if it sounds like random pop music anyway. So Calvin Harris... yeah no...
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I think the issue is that EDM just means "Mainstage EDM Pop shit" to a lot of people. I prefer just calling everything electronic music since not all of it is made for dancing
I don't know if you're understanding my point. EDM is used as a bad word. I love Autechre and Aphex Twin and Darkside or whatever else you might split off but a lot of that music clearly has a different purpose than John Digweed. There's a reason you don't see a ton of that stuff posted in this specific thread, which I understand, but clearly a lot of people here also listen to that stuff. I don't get the point of having 3 separate threads when the lines are blurred more than ever these days.
That's because the genres are incredibly diverse but if you look back at how they were developed then their roots come down to techno at some point.
I only see 2 and one of them is dead. What's the 3rd one?
Anyway the reason for separation is because some people don't want to be associated with the super commercialized stuff which I can understand because a 10 minute techno track is different to a Harris/Rihanna collab. I don't think Rihanna has ever listened to a techno track in her entire life and so who am I to tell people they don't want to be associated with it?
I personally like a lot of commercial tracks but for me to take you seriously as an artist of electronic music you have to prove yourself. There are a lot of artists who bridge the gap between the two like Mike Candys for example and I hate how they get shit on for "selling out" even though they introduce lots of people to electronic music while Rihanna does nothing.
There was like one that was electronic music. That was where I posted "hey new Matthew Dear." He was the first guy I thought bridged minimal techno with pop music that Ioved. And he full on turned weirdo pop/rock with his main releases and went full on noisy techno with his Audion shit. I think that's what made me think about how silly it was. Sure those are the kind of guys that get separated at Coachella with Yuma and Sahara but I personally spend tons of time at both. I subscribe to the resident advisor podcast but I really felt like the Calvin Harris album was one of the best albums of the year. The labels that I've always gravitated to were the ones that bridged the gap like Warp and Ghostly International. I really don't get why people still think Rihanna is not down. The new Cat Power has one cover song and it's a Rihanna song. I have no problem with people having preferences but I see less and less reason to really care. It goes against everything that traditional rave values seem to preach.
I don't know maybe I'm exaggerating. I knows there's the one with the techno and traditional stuff that is barely active. There's this one. And I'm sure at some point I saw one with the more ambient and non dance music like stuff like boards of canada.
Anyone going to ADE this week? I'm going tonight and saturday. For the people who may not go but still want to hear it, there's a Dutch radiochannel that has a 75-hour(!) mix marathon with a lot of great names that are performing in Amsterdam this week. It start today at 16:00 and ends saturdaynight at 0:00 so it's a lot to listen to.
If you're interested there's a timetable here and you can listen to the mixmarathon here as well, it's supposed to work all over the word :)
https://www.slam.nl/ade/
Have fun guys!
If you're interested there's a timetable here and you can listen to the mixmarathon here as well, it's supposed to work all over the word :)
https://www.slam.nl/ade/
Have fun guys!
Anybody enjoying the songs that Garrix has been releasing?
Yottabyte has been my favorite so far
Yottabyte has been my favorite so far
I wish! I was trying to make it work but I couldnt pull it off
I'm going to try and listen to the Slam sets when I can.
Is it more of Big Room/Festival House Garrix or Pop Garrix?
Is it more of Big Room/Festival House Garrix or Pop Garrix?
I'll be at Afterlife's 24H Gig here Saturday Night / Sunday morning.
https://www.amsterdam-dance-event.nl/program/2018/afterlife/8316889/
Where you headed?
Holy shit a 12 hour party haha thats awesome. I'm going to Circo Loco x Loveland, it's this one
https://www.amsterdam-dance-event.nl/program/2018/circoloco-x-loveland/9782917/
Hope you have fun!
Ahh man that's too bad, maybe next year!
Thanks buddy! You have a great time as well! Are you going to Toffler Festival next month?
http://www.tofflerindoorfestival.nl
if anyone wants a nice Hard Techno set, the Rebekah B2B Paula Temple set from ADE is out
https://soundcloud.com/avidmuzikfan/rebekah-b2b-paula-temple-live-ade-awakenings-2018
https://soundcloud.com/avidmuzikfan/rebekah-b2b-paula-temple-live-ade-awakenings-2018
Lane 8 is dope live. Aren't u in socal? Where is that show?
Anyone see the odesza destination festival in Mexico? I'm thinking of going to it
are tickets $1500 or 1500 pesos? I was confused when I saw the price
Let me sneak on in your suitcase
Found tickets to Ship 12.0 and somehow convinced my wife to go again. Moudaber 5+ hour sunrise set, lets goooo!!!
I'm in norcal lol. It's in S.F. on a work day so it'd be sorta crazy to drive in S.F. have to park, roll balls, and then drive back home and sleep like 4 hours and have to go into work. I saw Lane 8 at Life is Beautiful and he really blew my mind. I had listened to mixes and his essential mix and knew he was dope but the people I was with were doubtful. We all left believers.
I saw the all inclusive mexico thing. My friend in Tiajuana said that the resort and location is probably nicest in all of mexico so the money is probably worth it if you can find another person to split a room with you. It's not as bad if in a group. Certainly not any more than Holy Ship. And I bet it's super relaxing. I think if I flew that far I'd have to make a longer vacation out of it though. The cheapest tickets I saw were about $1400. But you'd still need to fly there which would likely add another $500.
2018 DJ MAG Top 100
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100. Slander
99. Carl Nunes
98. Rave Republic
97. Nina Kraviz [New Entry]
96. Alison Wonderland
95. Paul Kalkbrenner
94. Bobina
93. Markus Schulz [Re-Entry]
92. Lucas & Steve
91. Solomun
90. Andy C [Highest D&B Entry]
89. Deorro [Re-Entry]
88. MaRLo
87. Cedric Gervais [New Entry]
86. Marco Carola
85. Wildstylez
84. DJ L [Up 14]
83. NGHTMRE [New Entry]
82. Tchami
81. Mosimann
80. Daddy's Groove [New Entry]
79. Adam Beyer
78. KOYU
77. Breathe Carolina
76. Da Tweekaz
75. Ferry Corsten
74. Aly & Fila
73. Carta
72. MATTN [Highest New Entry]
71. Swanky Tunes
70. Brennan Heart
69. Radical Redemption [Down 25]
68. Mariana BO
67. Andrew Rayel
66. Mike Williams
65. Miss K8
64. Jay Hardway
63. Swedish House Mafia [Highest Re-Entry]
62. Florian Picasso
61. Richie Hawtin
60. Robin Schulz
59. Deadmau5
58. Steve Angello [Up 24]
57. Claptone [Highest House]
56. Will Sparks
55. Paul van Dyk
54. Martin Jensen
53. Carl Cox [Highest Techno]
52. Jeffrey Sutorius
51. Above & Beyond
50. Diego Miranda
49. ATB
48. Cat Dealers
47. Yellow Claw
46. Tujamo
45. Alesso
44. Zedd [Down 15]
43. Nicky Romero
42. Diplo [Down 17]
41. Axwell ^ Ingrosso [Down 20]
40. Calvin Harris [Down 25]
39. Kura
38. Danny Avila
37. Blasterjaxx
36. Alan Walker [Down 19]
35. Wolfpack
34. Vini Vici [Up 38]
33. Timmy Trumpet
32. Kygo
31. The Chainsmokers [Down 25]
30. Bassjackers
29. Angerfist
28. Headhunterz [Highest Hard DJ]
27. Nervo
26. Vinai
25. Quintino
24. DJ Snake
23. Ummet Ozcan
22. Fedde Le Grand
21. Skrillex
20. Eric Prydz
19. Vintage Culture
18. KSHMR
17. Lost Frequencies
16. DVBBS
15. Avicii
14. W&W
13. Alok
12. R3hab
11. Steve Aoki
Top 10
10. Marshmello
9. Oliver Heldens
8. Afrojack
7. Don Diablo
6. Tiesto
5. David Guetta
4. Armin van Buuren
3. Hardwell
2. Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike
1. Martin Garrix
10 Years ago for comparison
2008 Top 100 DJMAG
01. Armin van Buuren
02. Tiesto
03. Paul van Dyk
04. Above & Beyond
05. David Guetta
06. Ferry Corsten
07. Sasha
08. Markus Schulz
09. John Digweed
10. Infected Mushroom
11. Deadmau5
12. Carl Cox
13. Sander van Doorn
14. Paul Oakenfold
15. Richie Hawtin
16. Hernan Cattaneo
17. James Zabiela
18. Andy Moor
19. Eddie Halliwell
20. Axwell
21. Eric Prydz
22. Kyau & Albert
23. Gareth Emery
24. Sven Vдth
25. ATB
26. Anderson Noise
27. Joachim Garraud
28. Bobina
29. Fedde le Grand
30. Dubfire
31. Aly & Fila
32. Judge Jules
33. Umek
34. Matt Darey
35. Ricky Stone
36. Ricardo Villalobos
37. Lange
38. Daft Punk
39. Benny Benassi
40. Bob Sinclair
41. Deep Dish
42. Mark Knight
43. Astrix
44. Marco V
45. The Thrillseekers
46. Laidback Luke
47. Danny Tenaglia
48. Menno de Jong
49. Marco Lenzi
50. Andy C
51. Offer Nissim
52. Martin Solveig
53. Adam Sheridan
54. Sean Tyas
55. DJ Feel
56. Yahel
57. Roger Sanchez
58. DJ Shah
59. Sander Kleinenberg
60. John O'Callaghan
61. Blank & Jones
62. Cosmic Gate
63. Steve Angello
64. Simon Patterson
65. Gabriel & Dresden
66. Richard Durand
67. Laurent Wolf
68. Matt Hardwick
69. Chris Liebing
70. Erick Morillo
71. DJ Hype
72. Signum
73. Justice
74. Dirty South
75. Wally Lopez
76. Magda
77. Lisa Lashes
78. Pete Tong
79. DJ Vibe
80. Bad Boy Bill
81. Tiddey
82. Greg Downey
83. Marcel Woods
84. Nick Warren
85. Solar System
86. Skazi
87. Mike Koglin
88. Mauro Picotto
89. Sebastien Leger
90. The Chemical Brothers
91. Steve Lawler
92. Fatboy Slim
93. Solarstone
94. Astral Projection
95. Leon Bolier
96. Nic Fanciulli
97. Ronski Speed
98. Tocadisco
99. Booka Shade
100. Alex M.O.R.P.H. & Woody van Eyden
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100. Slander
99. Carl Nunes
98. Rave Republic
97. Nina Kraviz [New Entry]
96. Alison Wonderland
95. Paul Kalkbrenner
94. Bobina
93. Markus Schulz [Re-Entry]
92. Lucas & Steve
91. Solomun
90. Andy C [Highest D&B Entry]
89. Deorro [Re-Entry]
88. MaRLo
87. Cedric Gervais [New Entry]
86. Marco Carola
85. Wildstylez
84. DJ L [Up 14]
83. NGHTMRE [New Entry]
82. Tchami
81. Mosimann
80. Daddy's Groove [New Entry]
79. Adam Beyer
78. KOYU
77. Breathe Carolina
76. Da Tweekaz
75. Ferry Corsten
74. Aly & Fila
73. Carta
72. MATTN [Highest New Entry]
71. Swanky Tunes
70. Brennan Heart
69. Radical Redemption [Down 25]
68. Mariana BO
67. Andrew Rayel
66. Mike Williams
65. Miss K8
64. Jay Hardway
63. Swedish House Mafia [Highest Re-Entry]
62. Florian Picasso
61. Richie Hawtin
60. Robin Schulz
59. Deadmau5
58. Steve Angello [Up 24]
57. Claptone [Highest House]
56. Will Sparks
55. Paul van Dyk
54. Martin Jensen
53. Carl Cox [Highest Techno]
52. Jeffrey Sutorius
51. Above & Beyond
50. Diego Miranda
49. ATB
48. Cat Dealers
47. Yellow Claw
46. Tujamo
45. Alesso
44. Zedd [Down 15]
43. Nicky Romero
42. Diplo [Down 17]
41. Axwell ^ Ingrosso [Down 20]
40. Calvin Harris [Down 25]
39. Kura
38. Danny Avila
37. Blasterjaxx
36. Alan Walker [Down 19]
35. Wolfpack
34. Vini Vici [Up 38]
33. Timmy Trumpet
32. Kygo
31. The Chainsmokers [Down 25]
30. Bassjackers
29. Angerfist
28. Headhunterz [Highest Hard DJ]
27. Nervo
26. Vinai
25. Quintino
24. DJ Snake
23. Ummet Ozcan
22. Fedde Le Grand
21. Skrillex
20. Eric Prydz
19. Vintage Culture
18. KSHMR
17. Lost Frequencies
16. DVBBS
15. Avicii
14. W&W
13. Alok
12. R3hab
11. Steve Aoki
Top 10
10. Marshmello
9. Oliver Heldens
8. Afrojack
7. Don Diablo
6. Tiesto
5. David Guetta
4. Armin van Buuren
3. Hardwell
2. Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike
1. Martin Garrix
10 Years ago for comparison
2008 Top 100 DJMAG
01. Armin van Buuren
02. Tiesto
03. Paul van Dyk
04. Above & Beyond
05. David Guetta
06. Ferry Corsten
07. Sasha
08. Markus Schulz
09. John Digweed
10. Infected Mushroom
11. Deadmau5
12. Carl Cox
13. Sander van Doorn
14. Paul Oakenfold
15. Richie Hawtin
16. Hernan Cattaneo
17. James Zabiela
18. Andy Moor
19. Eddie Halliwell
20. Axwell
21. Eric Prydz
22. Kyau & Albert
23. Gareth Emery
24. Sven Vдth
25. ATB
26. Anderson Noise
27. Joachim Garraud
28. Bobina
29. Fedde le Grand
30. Dubfire
31. Aly & Fila
32. Judge Jules
33. Umek
34. Matt Darey
35. Ricky Stone
36. Ricardo Villalobos
37. Lange
38. Daft Punk
39. Benny Benassi
40. Bob Sinclair
41. Deep Dish
42. Mark Knight
43. Astrix
44. Marco V
45. The Thrillseekers
46. Laidback Luke
47. Danny Tenaglia
48. Menno de Jong
49. Marco Lenzi
50. Andy C
51. Offer Nissim
52. Martin Solveig
53. Adam Sheridan
54. Sean Tyas
55. DJ Feel
56. Yahel
57. Roger Sanchez
58. DJ Shah
59. Sander Kleinenberg
60. John O'Callaghan
61. Blank & Jones
62. Cosmic Gate
63. Steve Angello
64. Simon Patterson
65. Gabriel & Dresden
66. Richard Durand
67. Laurent Wolf
68. Matt Hardwick
69. Chris Liebing
70. Erick Morillo
71. DJ Hype
72. Signum
73. Justice
74. Dirty South
75. Wally Lopez
76. Magda
77. Lisa Lashes
78. Pete Tong
79. DJ Vibe
80. Bad Boy Bill
81. Tiddey
82. Greg Downey
83. Marcel Woods
84. Nick Warren
85. Solar System
86. Skazi
87. Mike Koglin
88. Mauro Picotto
89. Sebastien Leger
90. The Chemical Brothers
91. Steve Lawler
92. Fatboy Slim
93. Solarstone
94. Astral Projection
95. Leon Bolier
96. Nic Fanciulli
97. Ronski Speed
98. Tocadisco
99. Booka Shade
100. Alex M.O.R.P.H. & Woody van Eyden
r/EDM released their top !00 Djs list and doesn't have a single Techno artist on the whole list. I know we were having a discussion about what is and what isn't EDM and I think this says a lot lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/EDM/comments/9py7gy/redm_top_100_djs_the_results/
https://www.reddit.com/r/EDM/comments/9py7gy/redm_top_100_djs_the_results/
It's not like DJ Mag's list is anything better...
Lists are stupid anyway.