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What Apple Products do You have?

  • Mac

    Votes: 394 64.0%
  • iPad

    Votes: 446 72.4%
  • iPhone

    Votes: 535 86.9%
  • Watch

    Votes: 368 59.7%
  • Airpods

    Votes: 405 65.7%
  • AppleTV

    Votes: 308 50.0%
  • None: The Dark World

    Votes: 25 4.1%

  • Total voters
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Oct 25, 2017
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You know that if they are in your WiFi or in Bluetooth range of your phone and they have battery power then you can force them to make a noise in the find phone app.
Yup. Just couldn't find them in time before the battery was out. Turned over my living place to no avail, so I just suspect I misplaced them elsewhere, never to be reunited again.
 

turbobrick

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Honestly, with what new releases can do to pricing of old hardware by third party retailers like Best Buy or Target, or what might then pop up in Apple's refurbished store (which is great. Don't be put off by buying refurbished. I bought my 2012 iMac that I used up to this year from them with no real trouble) you might get a good deal on something or only paying slightly more for an "upgrade" pick from what you'd be buying now. Wait a few weeks to see if something gets announced.

when/where is the best place to shop? I'm looking to get an ipad pro, and if this new one actually doesn't have a headphone jack I will for sure be going with the current model. Apple has refurbished 10.5 inch units for $549, but I'm wondering if I can do better.
 

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It's really surprising to me that this wasn't debuted at the iPad event. I wonder what's up with that.

I'm sure it'll be demoed there, but I can totally see why Adobe wanted to announce it at their own event instead of Apple's. It's big news, and now there's a halo effect with other things Adobe talked about with their other products.
 

badcrumble

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm sure it'll be demoed there, but I can totally see why Adobe wanted to announce it at their own event instead of Apple's. It's big news, and now there's a halo effect with other things Adobe talked about with their other products.
That's fair.

I still think we're not getting the iPad event until November because Apple's gonna want to wait until after their Nov 1st quarterly earnings call to do the announcement.

Also - I really wonder if and when 3D Touch will come to the iPad. Peek and pop in iPad Safari would be really, really nice.
 

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That's fair.

I still think we're not getting the iPad event until November because Apple's gonna want to wait until after their Nov 1st quarterly earnings call to do the announcement.

Also - I really wonder if and when 3D Touch will come to the iPad. Peek and pop in iPad Safari would be really, really nice.

3D Touch has been an absolute nothing feature for me. The fact the XR doesn't even have it suggests Apple doesn't see it as being particularly important to the user experience.
 

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Weird that it's in the two flagship devices then and treated as a premium feature, no?

Not really. Premium phones have plenty of inessential features. It's telling that when it came to reducing cost for the XR that 3D Touch was one of the things dropped. They have a new long press event intended to let the XR mimic 3D Touch features, IIRC. The idea of pressure-based functionality on a touchscreen was always a bit weird.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Haven't decided on whether I should pay off my 8 (on sprint) or swap it for Xr. No real rush and I can pay off my 8 as early as March but Idk. The battery life and blue finish of Xr is tempting
 

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I'm literally salivating for any iPad Pro leaks/news. I have $1,500 ready to drop on the tablet, keyboard, and pencil. Make it happen!
 

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Overcast has an update that 'dramatically improves watch transfers' out

I'll believe it when I see it

Edit: Okay, credit where credit is due. The watch app now works as expected, showing me available playlists and the current playlist from the phone which it never did before. I assume that standalone podcast transfers now work, will test when I get home.
 
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when/where is the best place to shop? I'm looking to get an ipad pro, and if this new one actually doesn't have a headphone jack I will for sure be going with the current model. Apple has refurbished 10.5 inch units for $549, but I'm wondering if I can do better.

Microcenter has new units for $549 at the moment, but they've been on sale for $449.
 

Fliesen

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oh boy, Photoshop CC 20.0 is out. Let's hope it fixes the bug that renders it unusable on my Macbook.
 

eyeball_kid

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Oct 25, 2017
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3D Touch has been an absolute nothing feature for me. The fact the XR doesn't even have it suggests Apple doesn't see it as being particularly important to the user experience.

I use it quite often, but I think from Day One, 3D Touch has been let down by the OS, not the feature itself. The lack of any discoverability built-in to iOS to let users know where they can 3D Touch is a huge blunder and goes against the spirit of Apple's own Human Interface Guidelines.
 

Rodney McKay

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Oct 26, 2017
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Only thing I use 3D Touch for is the keyboard cursor, but it's an awesome enough feature that it's enough to justify it.
 

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Well Marco fixed most of the stuff in the Overcast watch app that was busted, but it still won't actually transfer any podcasts for standalone playback. You know, the standout feature of this whole update hasn't worked for me this entire time, and continues to not work.

gg

Edit: actually, scratch that. I uninstalled and reinstalled the watch app on an attempt to fix it, and now not only are those screens blank again, but now it won't even play podcasts off the phone correctly. If one is playing it'll pause just fine, but it's not able to resume playing again, the play button does nothing.

Jesus Christ this update made things WORSE.
 
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Vuze

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Damn, Textor was pulled from the AppStore because(?) the developer was hired by Apple :( Alongside his other apps OpenTerm and Pixure...

I dearly hope this means we will finally get atleast a built in plain text editor and terminal as part of iOS 13. He is working on the Xcode team now but it could make sense given the alleged productivity push happening for iPad.
 

Mafro

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Oct 25, 2017
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I have noticed that Overcast has been getting buggier and buggier over the last few months. I quite often have podcasts randomly stop paying but the play timer keeps going, and playing streaming podcasts over Airplay to my Sonos One can be quite spotty sometimes. Funnily enough this started not long after I paid the subscription for it, wouldn't have bothered if it started sooner.
 

DekuBleep

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Oct 25, 2017
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So if the upcoming iPad Pro can connect to and drive an LG Ultrafine display, and run Photoshop, then it would need a pointer and mouse support right?
 

Fliesen

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Oh boy, Photoshop CC 20.0 is out. Let's hope it fixes the bug that renders it unusable on my Macbook.

doing a fresh install of Mojave fixed my issues ... yay!
(which is especially weird, given that I did a FRESH install when Mojave initially released... I wonder if it had somehow corrupted my GPU drivers during install)
 
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So if the upcoming iPad Pro can connect to and drive an LG Ultrafine display, and run Photoshop, then it would need a pointer and mouse support right?

I feel like if mouse support was happening we would have seen evidence of it in iOS 12, like how everyone knew bigger screens were coming due to that year's layout support changes.

Was going to upgrade to Mojave but I ran into the failed firmware update issue with my Mac Pro and High Sierra. If it's the GPU there's no way I'm going to spend money to get another OEM Apple card to fix it, so that just hastens my wish for Apple to come out with some damn new pro hardware so I can retire the beast.
 

eyeball_kid

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Damn, Textor was pulled from the AppStore because(?) the developer was hired by Apple :( Alongside his other apps OpenTerm and Pixure...

I dearly hope this means we will finally get atleast a built in plain text editor and terminal as part of iOS 13. He is working on the Xcode team now but it could make sense given the alleged productivity push happening for iPad.

Yeah, I was really bummed about that. Textor and OpenTerm were both great apps that should be bundled with iOS by default. His apps are still available on github though, so at least in the case of Textor I suppose someone could re-publish the app on the store.

It would be great to have him working on those apps for Apple, but being on Xcode he's going to be working on the tooling probably exclusively.
 
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The Terminal is one of the "missing pieces" in making the iPad Pro a viable work machine, so hopefully it's gonna' get integrated into iOS at some point.
 

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Development on iOS as it exists right now sounds like an absolute hellscape. It's multitasking and interoperability are so far behind Windows or MacOS that even if XCode worked it would be little more than a tech showpiece no one would actually use.

Honestly, the people who force themselves to use iPads as their productivity devices instead of laptops or desktops are weird ones too, and I don't mean that in a nice way. Forcing a square peg into a round hole comes to mind.
 

eyeball_kid

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Having the terminal and being able to code is a big thing missing from ios to make it an OS to do work on. for me anyway.

Though I wonder if apple even want people to be able to run code on ios as whats available seems like they dont.

There's the Swift Playgrounds app, which definitely encourages coding in Swift (albeit in a closed environment). Also third-party apps like Pythonista.
 

DekuBleep

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Development on iOS as it exists right now sounds like an absolute hellscape. It's multitasking and interoperability are so far behind Windows or MacOS that even if XCode worked it would be little more than a tech showpiece no one would actually use.

Honestly, the people who force themselves to use iPads as their productivity devices instead of laptops or desktops are weird ones too, and I don't mean that in a nice way. Forcing a square peg into a round hole comes to mind.

For a lot of people an iPad with a keyboard is all they need. It's not forcing a square peg into a round hole as much as they don't need to code and all they need is email, word processing, and things like that...
 

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For a lot of people an iPad with a keyboard is all they need. It's not forcing a square peg into a round hole as much as they don't need to code and all they need is email, word processing, and things like that...

I think it's still substandard even for that. And the keyboards for iPads tend to make the standard office Dell keyboards look like Corsair K65s. You can do one thing ok on an iPad with a keyboard but literally no job I know requires you simply to be in one app. You're going to be switching between apps and grabbing files and doing things that iOS is still comically bad at.

iPads are great as a sort of on the go productivity device, for casual note taking or email responses or event management but as a replacement for traditional computers they have miles to go before I could recommend them to anyone.

The MS Surface line is so far ahead of iPads for that. Why? Better keyboards, and it runs the big boy OS. Apple are taking a few leaves from their old enemy on this but they still have a lot left to do.
 

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I think it's still substandard even for that. And the keyboards for iPads tend to make the standard office Dell keyboards look like Corsair K65s. You can do one thing ok on an iPad with a keyboard but literally no job I know requires you simply to be in one app. You're going to be switching between apps and grabbing files and doing things that iOS is still comically bad at.

iPads are great as a sort of on the go productivity device, for casual note taking or email responses or event management but as a replacement for traditional computers they have miles to go before I could recommend them to anyone.

The MS Surface line is so far ahead of iPads for that. Why? Better keyboards, and it runs the big boy OS. Apple are taking a few leaves from their old enemy on this but they still have a lot left to do.

Yeah definitely agree with this.

I'm a teacher and while the iPad Pro is great for note taking (lesson Plan etc) I still have to use the iMac for all the heavy lifting like creating good worksheets since it's way too finicky on iOS pages. (Not a fan of pages to begin with.)

I see the iPad Pro as a good companion to traditional desktops but it could in no way replace them entirely, at least not for me and not in its current form
 

Vuze

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Oct 25, 2017
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My HomePod just randomly stopped recognizing some of my Siri Shortcuts that still work fine on my phone and iPad.
Yesterday it decided to randomly disconnect from my Apple TV which made it essentially unusable (though that might be a bug with Infuse as the app was updated and rigidly refuses to continue playing after the HomePod loses connectivity).
What's wrong with the software of this thing?
 

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I think it's still substandard even for that. And the keyboards for iPads tend to make the standard office Dell keyboards look like Corsair K65s. You can do one thing ok on an iPad with a keyboard but literally no job I know requires you simply to be in one app. You're going to be switching between apps and grabbing files and doing things that iOS is still comically bad at.

iPads are great as a sort of on the go productivity device, for casual note taking or email responses or event management but as a replacement for traditional computers they have miles to go before I could recommend them to anyone.

The MS Surface line is so far ahead of iPads for that. Why? Better keyboards, and it runs the big boy OS. Apple are taking a few leaves from their old enemy on this but they still have a lot left to do.

That's because the surface is in reality just a great laptop. I found it poor as a tablet.