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DCEU Era |OT2| Joker's Wild
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Someone has gotta fix that revolving door to the Flash's directors chair.
And granted, I haven't seen Fantastic Beasts, but the trailers and talk make him seem like one of the side-antagonists. Not a huge role. They seem to have an in-universe reason to recast actors, too. With Flash, at least he'd be the star.
It's kinda sad that he's so busy between those two franchises and hasn't done another drama film in a while. Seems he's signed onto play young Salvador Dali, if that's happening.
Yeah, I don't think it's a spoiler at all to say big celeb name from FB 1 and 2 is prooooooooobably gonna be there for 3, 4, and 5
Same with Depp, as much as it'd be great for people to stop paying Depp he's 99.9% gonna be in the rest of the series regardless of what happens with the actual character, even if it's just flashback scenes. They value him too much to not double down, unfortunately
I mean, when you look at the reception to 1 Fanatsic Beast movie and compare it to a regular DCEU outing......
There's gonna be a Wonder Woman trilogy before another Superman. There's gonna be a Suicide Squad 2 before another Superman. Operating under the assumption Aquaman does well enough to warrant a sequel, there's gonna be an Aquaman 2 before another Superman. But at least there's gonna be another Superman before Cyborg and Gambit. And hey, they can make Superman's 90th Anniversary by 2028.
I'm guessing they're just going to pull a Routh and wait out Cavill's contract before recasting. Hopefully next time they actually let someone who's a fan of the character direct. In the meantime I'm hoping Aquaman is good enough to earn some respect for Arthur.
Yet another flash push back. Time it comes out really will be ready for a flashpoint to recast everyone younger and say they all lost 10 years and then make Doomsday Clock movie.
Hopefully DC reverses their decision to take the Dick out of Richard before the movie happens in eight to twelve years.
By next week they will be back in lol
Personally I don't care anymore, just want to see more films. In universe and out. The people thinking Wonder Woman and Aquabro are getting recasted are just being silly, but the ones saying it are crazy fanatics to begin with.
New Batman and Superman will be fine, Henry deserves to stick around though. I understand why they are tossing Ben because of his rehab in and out and in and out yoyo thing he is doing. But Henry has done everything they have asked.
Personally I don't care anymore, just want to see more films. In universe and out. The people thinking Wonder Woman and Aquabro are getting recasted are just being silly, but the ones saying it are crazy fanatics to begin with.
New Batman and Superman will be fine, Henry deserves to stick around though. I understand why they are tossing Ben because of his rehab in and out and in and out yoyo thing he is doing. But Henry has done everything they have asked.
...are people actually saying that? Haven't read the OT thread, but thinking Wonder Woman is getting recast comes off like an exaggerated parody of the typical nonsense trolling.
We more or less know there'll be a new younger actor as Batman for Reeves' movie. Only questionable area is if they have any plans for the 'modern' Batman and if Affleck stays on for that in a future team up movie or a cameo. But the answer there is: they'll likely keep Batman to the Reeves' series and that'll be that.
Cavill's situation with Superman isn't all that complicated. It's down to WB not having concrete plans for the character and Cavill not wanting to do a contract for cameos and be stuck in limbo.
edit: hold up, are the threads about the old lines from the Variety story on Flash and not something new?
There are more than a few people saying that WB should just blow it all up and recast everyone including WW and Aquaman; which is not too crazy if Aquaman does poorly. If I were WB and Aquaman and Shazam do not do well I'd spin WW and Harley off to their own thing and then start again in a few years after learning from past mistakes.
That's basically the current plan, regardless of how Aquaman and Shazam do. Aquaman is its own thing. Wonder Woman 1 already had very limited connections to BvS and JL. Wonder Woman 1984 isn't connecting to a wider shared universe. Batman is gonna be its own thing. Birds of Prey might be part of a mini Gotham-centric franchise including Batgirl and such. Oddly, for being under New Line, Shazam has more references to the (old)DCEU than anything else.
They all exist in the same universe, but we won't see much interaction, or I guess cross contamination is the more appropriate phrase in this instance.
I have a feeling I know who is going to be the next fan-favorite "suggestion" for a young Batman recast. Not sure he's actually someone Reeves will go for, but he's of a similar mold to Affleck and Armie Hammer.
DCEUera, meet Oliver Jackson-Cohen from The Haunting of Hill House.
DCEUera, meet Oliver Jackson-Cohen from The Haunting of Hill House.
That's Era's response to any DC Film news that's even remotely negative, though.
We could hear that Gal Gadot stubbed her toe on set and someone would be like "She's not physically able to be Wonder Woman anymore! Reboot everything! Flashpoint!!!!!!dfggkcbkkdlfknflhmn"
It'll be interesting to see what happens if Aquaman and Shazam do succeed. So much of the current speculation, whether it's said consciously or not, assumes they're going to fail.
That's more of a disadvantage. No one can agree about what Superman they want. And that's not touching how people like the idea of an all powerful, all good figure more than the character himself.
I'll give you Batman but the rest????
True that, people hate that he strays from the Boy Scout motif and makes human mistakes in MoS.
But go into a comic thread about him and people call him boring for being a Boy Scout and being boring.
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Love Atlanta but Glover doesn't fit as Superman
Fassbender is washed after X-men, I don't think anyone wants him as a lead in movie.
This is a superhero thing, so you gotta throw Jon Hamm in there somewhere.
Your Gosling and Ham. Will add them on that thread
I said before that WB were likely waiting to see how Aquaman did before pressing on with The Flash film as is. If Aquaman did gangbusters then it's possible that the studio would have pressed ahead with the Flash solo film with Ezra Miller in the lead role, if not he'd be out.
Well it seems that Miller is indeed out anyway with the news that the film has been delayed until late 2019. There are two reasons why this is likely the case.
1) Let's say that Flash does start shooting in October 2019 (which I have no reason to believe it won't) then let's say it's out July 2021. That's nearly FOUR years since Justice League was released. What would be the point given that the general audience have already moved on especially since they'll be a new Batman out by then and very likely the announcement of the new Superman film's star and director too?
2) WB have Ezra Miller on a multi film deal, but two of the films on that deal are already up in BvS and Justice League (not counting the SS cameo) which means that re-upping him for a possible trilogy of Flash films and whatever else he does as the character in the DCU would cost more than bringing in a new actor into the role.
I have a feeling that WB will just recast Miller in some other project/franchise (he's been linked to the Wonka prequel) so that relationship will continue regardless but if I had to put money on it his time as the Flash is at an end.
For those keeping count out of the original Justice League cast only Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman and, at present, Jason Momoa's Aquaman will remain.
Well it seems that Miller is indeed out anyway with the news that the film has been delayed until late 2019. There are two reasons why this is likely the case.
1) Let's say that Flash does start shooting in October 2019 (which I have no reason to believe it won't) then let's say it's out July 2021. That's nearly FOUR years since Justice League was released. What would be the point given that the general audience have already moved on especially since they'll be a new Batman out by then and very likely the announcement of the new Superman film's star and director too?
2) WB have Ezra Miller on a multi film deal, but two of the films on that deal are already up in BvS and Justice League (not counting the SS cameo) which means that re-upping him for a possible trilogy of Flash films and whatever else he does as the character in the DCU would cost more than bringing in a new actor into the role.
I have a feeling that WB will just recast Miller in some other project/franchise (he's been linked to the Wonka prequel) so that relationship will continue regardless but if I had to put money on it his time as the Flash is at an end.
For those keeping count out of the original Justice League cast only Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman and, at present, Jason Momoa's Aquaman will remain.
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I've heard great things about that series, gotta get on it
Yes Ryan Gosling....
....As TWO FACE
I think the delay is them finding the right script, and Fantastic Beast taking presidency before it. I think Ezra is still in.
If Aquaman does a billion plus worldwide it's possible.
But with Batman and Superman, the cornerstones of the DCU, being recast I'm struggling to see how they keep Ezra for a film that's easily three years away.
We shall see.
Ezra is a patient man without someone like Cavill's agent. Only reason Cavill is a possible out is because of trying to get more money. And Aquabro doing a billion is out of the question even if that's sarcasm.
It wasn't Cavill's agent it was his manager and, under Los Angeles law, managers don't negotiate deals agents do. So if you're talking agents, the ones who actually negotiate deals, it would be WME. I think that was all bluster anyway given that Cavill's agent is Dwayne Johnson's (and his ex-wife to boot!) and they are still in business with Warner Bros on a regular basis anyway.
While a billion is a tough ask I meant Aquaman doing huge (better than Venom etc, etc) numbers worldwide.
I think Aquaman will do well critically with a modest box office at the least. What WB decides after that is on them.
I hope they aren't stupid enough to recast Ezra when there is no need.
I hope they aren't stupid enough to recast Ezra when there is no need.
I don't think they should recast Ezra, but if they do it's pretty obviously gonna be a full reboot and I'd expect Gadot to be done with WW after the 1984 sequel
We'll see. After all, Warner Bros might be more willing to deal with her when it comes to the Rock since he's... y'know... the Rock. If the shenanigans that transpired from Cavill and her while they were trying to negotiate more money for a Superman solo film are true, I can easily see that burning WB's interest in being willing to put up with her for Cavill since he's still nowhere near as big of an immediate draw like the Rock is.
I'm with Ross on this one. I think Miller's still got the Flash role, it's just a case of circumstances here.
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