It doesnt matter what i want. Discussion is about diversity. And i dont see how that can be achieved. Im not religious at all, but following the diversity rationale, this would be fulfilled.
I am disappointed by the lack of diversity depicted in Squadron 42
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It doesnt matter what i want. Discussion is about diversity. And i dont see how that can be achieved. Im not religious at all, but following the diversity rationale, this would be fulfilled.
Why are you being so rude to me? Im trying to talk, jesus.
Arguments in bad faith tend to make an actual discussion kinda difficult.
The new Jack Ryan series surprised me on this. Not only the put black guy as one of the main supporting cast, but the character is a black Moslem as well. I don't know how to put that kind of thing into games media, but I'm looking forward to the next lead female black Moslem action character in a game.
There are women in Squadron trailer. Topic was not about having less women or LGBT representation. It was about having more non white skin people games.
It was not the actual topic but it's now thanks to fans of ND who jumped into defend them.
I'm out, I knew that soon this will turn into fanboys defending their devs nd all.
And yes, please be out, because ignoring literally anything that goes against what you're trying to say is all sorts of annoying. Hell, you yourself stated that you didn't care, and then that you cared, and didn't even address what changed. And now you're on a tirade about Naughty Dog fanboys coming in to talk about how great ND is. There's no point in what you're saying.
I've directly quoted the part of the OP where they also talk about the lack of gender diversity for you.
User Banned (1 Month): Arguing in bad faith over a series of posts, inflammatory false equivalence.
But that the point. How those who believe that diversity should be kind of a strict rule are forgetting about muslims? I mean, I cant recall a single videogame in history with a muslim protagonist. Thats why I get the concern of first and second tier minorities. Also, should creators avoid certain types of minorities? In example, neonazis are -thanks god- a minority in this world, but they are clearly misrepresented on videogames. Again, im trying to understand the rationale behind this. If the objective is to represent minorities, I guess that applies for the "bad" minorities as well. Or not?
In trailer but we dunno how many are in full game. Can't judge based on just trailer .
Trailer shows lack of representations of non white people in lead but not having less women and LGBT representation.
Which bad faith? I havent insulted anyone, yet I got yikes, lols, hahahas, bad faith inferences, etc. Why its so hard to discuss an idea? Why its so hard to say: hey, i dont agre with you, and this is why. I dont have any other motivation that understanding other people's views, specially from those that I -at least from the beginning- I dont share and/or understand.
what the fuck
You're clearly trying to derail the conversation with insane strawmans.
The whole reason for diversity is to open peoples mind that other people that is non-white male can also do good. Your question about neonazis is just ridicules and ooze 'just asking questions'.
There is a good clip on this, which I can't find, where kids point out, without context, who they think is the bad person, which in majority, they always pick the person that is black.
Alright.
I think it might have been this thread which introduced me to the term for the concept: Sealioning.
Hopefully someone at CIG will bring this concern to the attention of Chris Roberts. I doubt that Roberts is deliberately or consciously racist, but he needs to see how the lack of diversity in the major characters of the game affects our perception of it, and how racism can exist in varying degrees on an objective level.
I don't know if Roberts is willing to change the cast at this stage of production, but if he can insist on changing a green pixel to blue then I have faith that he can see his way clear to being more diverse in his casting choices.
I don't know if Roberts is willing to change the cast at this stage of production, but if he can insist on changing a green pixel to blue then I have faith that he can see his way clear to being more diverse in his casting choices.
For religions and sexual preferences, I think those things are a bit harder to convey. For sexual preference, you need to put characters in situation where affection can be shown properly. For religion, it can vary, ranging from a simple pendant with religious symbols, to complex religious practices as praying and others.
Skin color, is a lot easier and don't need special scene or situation.
Skin color, is a lot easier and don't need special scene or situation.
I wonder if these 2 realize that everyone understands what they are trying to do. They are here with bad faith arguments and LITERALLY no one is buying it. I appreciate the classic tactic of claiming to be doing nothing wrong, while suggesting pretty offensive things. "Why don't you get us," "we're not being rude," TF, your whole argument is rude. LOL
How so? I cant understand why is so hard to understnad that I want to fuckimng understand the original diversity argument for gods sake.
I cant see how the "bad" minorities like the mentioned one would fit into it. Is there a concensus that those minorities should be avoided because of the negative connotations of it? or they should have there place as well? Its so hard to understand that that is my question, and theres no second intentions?
Yes it is very hard since neonazis isn't a minority group. And even if they where, they are a hateful group that wan't to remove diversity and purify the white genome from outside influence.
So yes, it is very hard when you come with questions like that.
Nazis aren't a minority, dummy.
You didn't choose your ethnicity, but you chose to be a Nazi, dummy.
Let me be clear: You dont fucking know me. You dont have the right to say: Oh, yeah this guy is commenting on bad faith. Im not doing it. Period.
You literally just claimed Nazis are a minority. Either you're arguing in bad faith or you just aren't that bright. Either way, you're not fooling anyone.
So an LGBT member that realized its sexual orientation later on its life, its not a minority, dummy?
Don't worry, they are arguing in good faith. I know this because they told me. Even though they haven't performed any actions or written any words to actually prove it. They just are, duh.
What? You seriously can't believe anyone is going to think you're arguing in good faith with this logic. Just stop. It's embarrassing.
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For real?
Do you think a person woke up one day and said 'Today, I choose to be gay'? Really?
Nazis are a minority, thats why neonazi governments in the world are pretty much inexistant.
So far you have done two things
1, strongly imply that a game or any piece of media cannot be diverse unless every minority on the planet is represented
2, attempted a botched gotcha on people by trying to poke holes in what isn't and isn't diversity by invoking the fucking Nazis
People have every right to accuse you of arguing in bad faith and frankly if i were you I would acknowledge that because the other option is that you are arguing from a position of sheer stupidity.
The decision is not a decision that is YES or NO, it is something you realize yourself that you ARE, not chose to be.
Nazis, and (more broadly) fascists are not minorities in this world. FFS
The only minority group that you chose to join is a religious one, you can read here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_group
EDIT: And even that I would say is more a conviction then a choice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_group
EDIT: And even that I would say is more a conviction then a choice.
seeing as they realized their sexuality...... because thats who they were to begin with makes them a minority...
you mega dummy who can't seem to stop digging...
That's good to hear with Jack Ryan. And yes, hopefully someday we can get a character like that to become, aaah not asking much, just a side character maybe? Asking such a character to become the lead would mean a million years wait, haha.
Agreed, but your wording destroyed me.
I'm DEAD
The great thing about these threads is how the moths just can't help but be attracted to the flame.
Ok, its impossible to discuss. I was 100% on good faith to discuss, but that clearly not possible.
Lol
you are stupid
you are in bad faith
you are not bright
read a book
a text wall with a reference to a comment I made
yikes
yeah, you are stupid (again)
Yeah, you are in bad faith, and if not, send proofs of it (!)
More LOLs x 10
Very aggressive gifs
ban and delete all messages of me
Im done on this thread, i dont feel comfortable with all of this.
Lol
you are stupid
you are in bad faith
you are not bright
read a book
a text wall with a reference to a comment I made
yikes
yeah, you are stupid (again)
Yeah, you are in bad faith, and if not, send proofs of it (!)
More LOLs x 10
Very aggressive gifs
ban and delete all messages of me
Im done on this thread, i dont feel comfortable with all of this.
These threads are like "come into the light" summons for trolls and racists.
