8byte

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt-account
Banned
Oct 28, 2017
9,880
Kansas
Okay, I hate to make another new thread but I feel this is important.

People, what is up with us and post counts?

I've seen it at least five times when browsing through the last week, and today I saw someone discrediting someone's opinion purely based on post count. What the hell yinz? This ain't a game of yugioh. Your post count isn't attack points and you beat up their defense and win the argument. It's the worst type of arguing and it seems people with big counts have a superiority complex, and I know we don't have size issues cause the men and women of Era have the bestest and biggest of genital sizes, so what up.

This shit actively hurts discussion and debate, and also, is just a dick move.

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A YINZER! YES!

On topic: Instead of post count, let's display bans, lol. Much more interesting metric, IMO.
 

Leek

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
732
If there's a way to hide post counts, it should be implemented. When the forum started, it was decided that we wouldn't have junior members because certain people weren't taking junior posts seriously, or looking down upon them in some other way. Now people are using post counts as a direct replacement.

Either that, or warn people for bringing up post count in an unrelated discussion at all, like we already do for avatars.
 

andymcc

Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,584
Columbus, OH
when someone that's had an account since the time of the exodus posts a disgusting opinion/viewpoint in a thread and you see sub-double digit numbers-- that is a huge red flag. honestly the only time i ever look at post number tbh.
 

Aaronrules380

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
22,633
Sometimes someone has 50 posts in the last year and they were all used for trolling. That's one thing. But I've seen people's valid argument questioned because they only had a few hundred posts. It's as garbage as the whole prominent member thing.
The prominent member thing is a meme though? I don't think I've seen anyone take that idea seriously
 

Jeronimo

Member
Nov 16, 2017
2,379
A very low post count + spewing hot takes can be suspicious, as it has been mentioned. There's not a lot of history to go on to earn the benefit of the doubt.

It's like having no credit and applying for a car loan.
 
Oct 30, 2017
1,792
I've been a part of this forum and legacy forum for six years or so with just one account, but since last year I usually haven't had a chance to post so much. I'm still below 200 posts in a year here and someone tried to use that to discredit me (can't remember the thread but I was being genuine).

I even had a mod altered secret avatar in the previous forum. :'(
 
Oct 30, 2017
1,931
I'm on this forum every day just reading with passing interest
I don't feel that strongly about many things that I want to post about it

But I will contribute every now and again
 

Strangelove_77

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
13,392
I don't think I've ever gone to someone's profile to look at their post count before and I don't think I've ever seen it called out in a thread.
I guess this behavior happens in very specific threads.
 

Bumpers

Member
Oct 26, 2017
44
London
Like Neogaf, I use ResetEra mostly as a news source that I often check daily but either don't have the time to post or do not have an opinion to add that I think would add to the discussion. The now to be 17 posts isn't indicative of how much time I and possibly others spend on here.
 

Mister Saturn

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
308
If there's a way to hide post counts, it should be implemented. When the forum started, it was decided that we wouldn't have junior members because certain people weren't taking junior posts seriously, or looking down upon them in some other way. Now people are using post counts as a direct replacement.

Either that, or warn people for bringing up post count in an unrelated discussion at all, like we already do for avatars.
Never happening, not when mods and admins themselves use post count & junior status as ban criteria. Once you accept this place is just as problematic as GAF was, it's easier to know the boundaries and move on.
 

Cream Stout

Member
Oct 28, 2017
2,613
people put value in popularity
it why people follow celebrities
high post count = celebrity on forum = u r to be taken seriously
 

Leek

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
732
Never happening, not when mods and admins themselves use post count & junior status as ban criteria. Once you accept this place is just as problematic as GAF was, it's easier to know the boundaries and move on.

Mods and admins could probably still use it if it were hidden from the public. They have access to a lot of information and tools we don't, such as junior status, as you mentioned. There's no real reason somebody who isn't a moderator needs to know somebody's post count, besides using it to dismiss a post without addressing the content.
 

Raw64life

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,983
I wish I had the kind of free time that people with 10K+ posts on here had.

But the number isn't so much as important as the post histories are. Although the only time I've really ever bothered to look through people's post histories are when I'm trying to figure out why people stump so hard for billion dollar corporations on here. Their post history makes it clear why they have an account on here in pretty short order.
 

Alucrid

Chicken Photographer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,531
If there's a way to hide post counts, it should be implemented. When the forum started, it was decided that we wouldn't have junior members because certain people weren't taking junior posts seriously, or looking down upon them in some other way. Now people are using post counts as a direct replacement.

Either that, or warn people for bringing up post count in an unrelated discussion at all, like we already do for avatars.

i mean you hid your profile so your 172 post count should be safe
 

DrROBschiz

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,535
Like Neogaf, I use ResetEra mostly as a news source that I often check daily but either don't have the time to post or do not have an opinion to add that I think would add to the discussion. The now to be 17 posts isn't indicative of how much time I and possibly others spend on here.

I highly doubt people will give you shit just for post count alone

Its usually a response to the content thats posted

Users aren't shy on here about challenging opinions and its hard not to be lumped in with abusers if your own post count is low especially if you are posting about something controversial, unpopular or heated in a discussion

Trust me I've received my share of warnings and soft bans for popping off myself and breaking rules. Honestly... Im glad that its moderated the way it is and I earned most of the criticism and moderation I got

Its really not that hard to navigate this place guys
 

Mister Saturn

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
308
Mods and admins could probably still use it if it were hidden from the public. They have access to a lot of information and tools we don't, such as junior status, as you mentioned. There's no real reason somebody who isn't a moderator needs to know somebody's post count, besides using it to dismiss a post without addressing the content.
True, although that would be removing transparency from the process if they used post count as a ban criteria.
 

George c

Member
Dec 1, 2017
192
Yeah it is BS, its damn near its own logical fallacy to discredit an argument "post numerare" if you will.

Yes, there are people that use burner accounts or drive by posts, with low post counts but it should not be used to discredit ones argument.
Look at me i only got like 60 posts, been here since I found out that most people left GAF and been with GAF since 06'. I mostly lurk and don't comment unless I really feel like it.
So for someone to say my opinion is invalid because of some dumb number and group me in with the deplorables is disingenuous to myself.
 

SuperBonk

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
354
Like Neogaf, I use ResetEra mostly as a news source that I often check daily but either don't have the time to post or do not have an opinion to add that I think would add to the discussion. The now to be 17 posts isn't indicative of how much time I and possibly others spend on here.
Yup, same here. Seems like whatever I have to add to the discussion is said more elegantly by most other posters here anyway.
 

PeskyToaster

Member
Oct 27, 2017
15,327
It's because you look at their post and are like hmmmm what is up with this, seems kind of dumb then you look at some other signs on their profile and are like double hmmmmmmmm
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,293
Yeah it is BS, its damn near its own logical fallacy to discredit an argument "post numerare" if you will.

Yes, there are people that use burner accounts or drive by posts, with low post counts but it should not be used to discredit ones argument.
Look at me i only got like 60 posts, been here since I found out that most people left GAF and been with GAF since 06'. I mostly lurk and don't comment unless I really feel like it.
So for someone to say my opinion is invalid because of some dumb number and group me in with the deplorables is disingenuous to myself.
Has anyone done that to you?
 

Envelope

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
896
Considering low post count has been cited by the adminstration here as a bannable reason, your wishes are likely to be futile op
 

DrROBschiz

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,535
True, although that would be removing transparency from the process if they used post count as a ban criteria.

Why wouldn't they

There are clear examples of abuse and that metric fits certain patterns

Its not universal ban material but part of the equation. If you are new or inexperienced and go around making bad posts or breaking the rules then you'll see clear consequences.

You guys act like ERA is some crazy flawed bastion of unfairness but all I am seeing so far is complaints from the margins.

No one is gonna argue that ERA is perfect or unbiased. Such a place DOESNT exist

The rules and slant of the forum are clear as day guys. If you cant adapt the internet is a massive buffet of alternatives
 
Oct 25, 2017
12,018
lol

Not only will I not stop doing this when necessary, I'm also gonna pull your card if someone says something stupid in the middle of the night when all the North American mods are sleeping.

And if you have no avatar, trifecta.
 

DrROBschiz

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,535
You are forgetting the context of shitposting along with a low post count. They don't have some ritualized culling of low post count members who do nothing wrong.

Exactly

The OPs complaint seems marginal since mod and member abuse of low post users doesnt appear to be a systemic issue but Im open to examples showing otherwise
 
OP
OP
CoolestSpot

CoolestSpot

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
17,325
lol

Not only will I not stop doing this when necessary, I'm also gonna pull your card if someone says something stupid in the middle of the night when all the North American mods are sleeping.

And if you have no avatar, trifecta.

I was gonna give you shit for low post count and supporting kree, but...woof that count.
 

hydrophilic attack

Corrupted by Vengeance
Member
Oct 25, 2017
21,625
Sweden
or are shy and fear of rejection, or a mostly lurker that only wants to provide a comment when they think what they will say has meaning.
i mean that's ok

the problem is when these low-post accounts start coming in spouting certain kinds of comments

don't make that kind of comments and you'll be fine, even if you have a low post count
 

FormatCompatible

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,071
I have never seen someone shut down just for having a low post count. I have seen it brought up as evidence that something isn't on the up and up, and I think that's completely fair.
That's how I see it too. Typically it's not only the low post count but also the actual content of those posts that is the reason for other users to suspect the true nature of the poster.
 

NekoFever

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,009
On the other side of the coin, next time you see someone on here struggling with an everyday social situation, check out how large their post count usually is.