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lupianwolf

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Oct 27, 2017
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"The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina," a Netflix adaptation of the supernatural Archie Comics story, has made thousands of fans among viewers. Not among them: members of the Satanic Temple.

On Sunday, Satanic Temple Co-Founder Lucien Greaves tweeted that the group would be "taking legal action" against Netflix and the show for "appropriating" its copyrighted monument design of Baphomet. He also added that Baphomet, and particularly their design of the figure, is a "central icon" to the Satanic Temple. Greaves confirmed to SFGATE that the group's lawyer sent a letter to Netflix regarding their depiction of the statue.

As CBR and Broadly pointed out, the Baphomet statue created by the Satanic Temple does resemble the statue in the "Sabrina" series; putting aside the similarities adapted from the popular mid-19th century illustration, in both the temple's and Netflix's designs, Baphomet is flanked by two children looking up at his head.

"I feel that the use of our particular image that is recognized as our own central icon (being) displayed fictionally as central to some cannibalistic cult has real world damaging effects for us," he said.

https://www.sfgate.com/tv/article/Satanic-Temple-Netflix-Sabrina-baphomet-statue-13345795.php

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Primus

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Oct 25, 2017
3,870
Church of Satan upset that a portrayal of Satan is too Satanic and might damage the Church of Satan.

Sometimes I love this absurd world we live in.
 

sibarraz

Prophet of Regret - One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
18,179
Those guys called from help to Satan best soldiers, lawyers
 

Trojita

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Oct 25, 2017
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But Baphomet is a stolen icon.....

Time for Stanislas de Guaita's estate to sue for taking his design.
 

Trojita

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wait so the satanic church is suing Netflix because they accurately portrayed the statue?



What?
The satanic temple is suing Netflix for using a statue that is very similar to their own, which was based on a drawing by Stanislas de Guaita (the head of the goat in baphomet is exactly the same as Guaita's original drawing), of a deity that the Knights Templar were falsely accused of worshiping.

So who has the rights if the original design was stolen?

Fair use?
 

Burt

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Oct 28, 2017
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Yeah, hmm, I wouldn't say that the temple doesn't have a reason to be irked. The children flanking the baphomet are pretty hard to ignore.
 

mutantmagnet

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Oct 28, 2017
12,401
I find it slightly interesting they seem to have a copyright on this. I thought iconography could only be trademarked?
 

Amnixia

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The Fallen
Jan 25, 2018
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Wait... what?

And I thought Christians were easily offended by TV shows...
 

SteveWinwood

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Oct 25, 2017
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These guys just love to stir shit. They were kind of the flying speghetti guys before they ever existed.

Maybe they've gone all corporate and want a pay day, or maybe they're just being assholes.
 

bremon

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Oct 27, 2017
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They're Satanists, a religion basically based around doing the exact opposite of the bible, I don't expect fully thought out responses from them.
As opposed to the fully thought out things the bible teaches?

Anyway, I'm pretty sure it's more "free will, do what you want but don't hurt people" with this people rather than "bizzarro bible".
 

Francesco

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Nov 22, 2017
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How is the TV show btw?
Good like Stranger things s1, ok like s2 or embarassing like Riverdale?
 

Maneil99

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Nov 2, 2017
5,252
Wait... what?

And I thought Christians were easily offended by TV shows...

Nobody is offended. It's just flat out copying a statue that is owned by the church. I believe the statue is an original piece with creative decisions made in it's design. It obviously takes inspiratiob from the source but the show is a 1:1 copy
 

Morrigan

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Oct 24, 2017
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CoolestSpot

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Oct 25, 2017
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As opposed to the fully thought out things the bible teaches?

Anyway, I'm pretty sure it's more "free will, do what you want but don't hurt people" with this people rather than "bizzarro bible".

I mean taking a book like the bible and doing the opposite doesn't make it more logical.

I speak as someone whose been in covens.
 

.exe

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Oct 25, 2017
22,359
Lol. That's how Baphomet looks though, right? It's how he looks in Shin Megami Tensei and Binding of Isaac too.

Edit: ah, yeah, looking at the poses and the children and the general composition of the scene it is quite similar.
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
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Oct 24, 2017
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This is the Satanic Temple's creed, by the way:
https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/tenets

  • One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
  • The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
  • One's body is inviolable, subject to one's own will alone.
  • The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
  • Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
  • People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
  • Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
[Edit: beaten!]
 

the_id

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Oct 25, 2017
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I thought that statue was a well known statue. Not a protected work of art though.
 

haxan

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Oct 25, 2017
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Both are based on the same image but idk. The specific use of the children seems like the most egregious element.

Exactly. It's clearly based on the Satanic Temple's neutered design. The children and the lap towel thing are the most conspicuous addition to the statue, along with the removal of the breasts. I caught this when I first watched it and wondered if they got permission.
 

Morrigan

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Oct 24, 2017
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Lol. That's how Baphoment looks though, right? It's how he looks in Shin Megami Tensei and Binding of Isaac too.
Baphomet itself is an icon. But you can't copy someone else's artwork of Baphomet.

If I make a drawing of Satan, and someone else uses my exact drawing of Satan without my permission, they are infringing on my copyright.
 

SolidSnakex

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Oct 25, 2017
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Lol. That's how Baphoment looks though, right? It's how he looks in Shin Megami Tensei and Binding of Isaac too.

Yeah, that's its basic design. The giveaway is the inclusion of children (which appear to be a black boy and a white girl in the exact same positions) which is directly linked to the Satanic Temple's version of the design.
 

CoolestSpot

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Oct 25, 2017
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Reading it more, the fact its copyrighted changes my feelings on it.

When it comes to protecting your shit do what you gotta