Actual Republican defense every time this is brought up: "But that's different, they're our people and they're supposed to be here!"
Pretty much this
I took a peek and there's a thread titled "Mueller accused of sexual harassment"The thread on this over at the old forum is exactly what I expected.
If the thread is about mass shooters being predominantly white in a predominantly white country, well no shit. Address the mental health issues, they aren't deciding to shoot up a school because they're white, it's because they're mentally deranged.
deflection, when a white person does it they are mentally unstable but when a minority does it they are either a terrorist, gang member or as trump refers bad people. To many double standards for white people to be honest.If the thread is about mass shooters being predominantly white in a predominantly white country, well no shit. Address the mental health issues, they aren't deciding to shoot up a school because they're white, it's because they're mentally deranged.
First page alone will do it. Not gonna point out individual people.Wolven Hammer What's up with "self-loathing white dudes on here", do you have examples?
gahahahaI took a peek and there's a thread titled "Mueller accused of sexual harassment"
Actual Republican defense every time this is brought up: "But that's different, they're our people and they're supposed to be here!"
Reverse Don Lemon: "Black men are biggest rape threat to US."
Is this OK to say?
You're missing the point. Context is that we're banning muslims and brownies from south of the border for how "dangerous" they are, when the people inside the border from the start are more dangerous. His point is that the groups demonizing the dirty migrants are more likely to commit the crimes they're demonizing others for, so they shouldn't demonize anyone.Reverse Don Lemon: "Black men are biggest murderer threat to US."
Is this OK to say?
How about actually reading. That's the point. Literally two wrongs don't make a right is the point being made by this statement.
Reverse Don Lemon: "Black men are biggest murderer threat to US."
Is this OK to say?
So because people recognize their privilege or want minorities to have a more prominent voice they are "self-loathing"? That's not how it works.First page alone will do it. Not gonna point out individual people.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/th...ooks-huge-—-maybe-even-record-breaking.59806/
One of several but this is all I will be bothered with seeing as you're one of those people who focus in on the most questionable part of a post and ignore the bulk of the rest, especially when it's more valid. (An annoyingly common trend in this forum.)
Don't reverse. Let's press play.
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Reverse Don Lemon: "Black men are biggest rape threat to US."
Is this OK to say?
Rape now to murder?
100 posts, no avatar,.... Ignore this bot.Reverse Don Lemon: "Black men are biggest murderer threat to US."
Is this OK to say?
Reverse Don Lemon: "Black men are biggest murderer threat to US."
Is this OK to say?
Lmao at Malcolm X posting here.Holy shit that was fire.
Malcolm X would get banned on Era if he posted it...LOLZ
Reverse Don Lemon: "Black men are biggest murderer threat to US."
Is this OK to say?
Haha...obviously. You know what I mean though.
Weak spin.So because people recognize their privilege or want minorities to have a more prominent voice they are "self-loathing"? That's not how it works.
Oh, and I'm one of those people lol, okay
Weak spin.
When someone condemns (justified or not) their own demographic and they include words like "us" or "we", that's self loathing.
That's exactly how it works.
The reasons why are a separate discussion. You tried to call me out for examples (twice, lol) and I delivered.
Next.
So recognizing facts is self-loathing? Who would be so attached to their "demographic" that they have some idea where they have to defend or ignore criticisms just because they are part of said demographic?Weak spin.
When someone condemns (justified or not) their own demographic and they include words like "us" or "we", that's self loathing.
That's exactly how it works.
The reasons why are a separate discussion. You tried to call me out for examples (twice, lol) and I delivered.
Next.
So recognizing facts is self-loathing? Who would be so attached to their "demographic" that they have some idea where they have to defend or ignore criticisms just because they are part of said demographic?
You didn't even give examples, you just linked to a thread lol. Be specific, if you want to get into the weeds on this I'm happy to but don't be vague. If you're speaking for someone else, and least let them know you are speaking for them, I'm sure the people who you say are "self-loathing" would love to hear that for themselves.
And shit, we can get right to the point on this. I believe you're probably one of those dudes who will look at white people being criticized by other white people, or men criticized by other men, and take some issue with it like we're somehow "betraying" something, as if we can't be critical of groups we belong to without it being "self-loathing".
Like if I say "We as white men are responsible for the racist state of our country", I'm self-loathing now? Get real. I could give a shit about the color of my skin, the truth is the truth and I don't need to dance around that to in order to not feel guilty or have blinders on.
But you said you gave examples and you didn't.I said Don Lemon's statement needed to be more focused (white nationalists). I brought up the "self loathing white dudes who post here" (who are most certainly left leaning) to point out as an example that they are not a threat to human lives. Though the statement sweeps them in anyway.
You didn't even give examples, you just linked to a thread lol. Be specific, if you want to get into the weeds on this I'm happy to but don't be vague. If you're speaking for someone else, and least let them know you are speaking for them, I'm sure the people who you say are "self-loathing" would love to hear that for themselves.
Just caught your edit. Dude, people here normally say "us white people" "we're" etc.
You're saying there's a substantial difference between the statements "We as white men" and "Us white men", and that the latter is self-loathing while the former is not?Clever addition of a word though. The "as" makes a huge difference.
You're saying there's a substantial difference between the statements "We as white men" and "Us white men", and that the latter is self-loathing while the former is not?
Yes, I said so right there. Come on.Clever addition of a word though. The "as" makes a huge difference.
I never said that, you know this, but I did you one better. Gave you a whole thread filled with them. I elaborated on why:
First page alone will do it. Not gonna point out individual people.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-gender-gap-among-midterm-voters-looks-huge-—-maybe-even-record-breaking.59806/
One of several but this is all I will be bothered with seeing as you're one of those people who focus in on the most questionable part of a post and ignore the bulk of the rest, especially when it's more valid. (An annoyingly common trend in this forum.)
Technically also. But too broad.
"Men are a threat to U.S. lives " also true.
Are any of the white liberal male members (;D) on here going to go on a killing spree? Probably not, yet these blanket statements assume they are.
He had the potential to deliver a focused punch but he went too wide, diluting the potential cultural impact. Like I said, oh well.
Nope, and that is not an argument.
"Can I have some examples?"I never said that, you know this, but I did you one better. Gave you a whole thread filled with them. I elaborated on why:
"I am just going to ascribe something to individuals and not inform them or give them a chance for a rebuttal for reasons"
Nah I'm good, unless you want to PM me the users who you are calling "self-loathing" in that thread so I can let them know what you said about them and see if they agree with your assessment rather than talking behind their backs. I'd much rather have this out in the open for everyone to see.
Yep. Next time if you're gonna talk about users behind their backs and call them "self-loathing", come with some receipts.
Next time if you're gonna talk about users behind their backs and call them "self-loathing", come with some receipts.
Try making an actual salient point, champ.
Dang, I got him confused with Jack Lemmon and was thinking old white comedians have been spitting fire lately.
He's still right, though.
I did, but I guess it's easier to not address it.