[LEAK] Massive Devil May Cry 5 Info (Potential heavy spoilers inside!)

Adamska · Nov 28, 2017

jett said:
It's not going to be DmC2, come on son. I can only imagine the amount of shit that would rain down on Capcom if it were.

People love shitting on Capcom, regardless. They shat on them for RE6 (which is an insanely good action game), they shat on them for RE7 (an amazingly good survival horror game), DmC2 or DMCV won't change that.

Mozendo said:
Do you have sources that confirm this? Because if not you're not really commenting on this leak.

I have not for one second stated that I have sources that confirm what I say. I am commenting on the leak, yes, because I doubt its minutiae and think it might refer to DmC2.

Rob said:
The leak might be wrong, absolutely, and it's possible DMCV is not in development. It's also possible NO Devil May Cry game is in development either. But within the context of the leak, it's pretty clear it's a followup to DMC4 and not DmC.

I would also absolutely play a new DmC game, but this leak is not indicating it.

I don't think its such a huge stretch. None of us know what were the details of the contract between NT and Capcom, and DmC hints heavily at a sequel. But within the context of the leak, it might be that the only thing confirmed is a new DMC game, regardless of setting. And, if it's really being developed internally by Capcom, I would hope they do away with all the clutter introduced by DMC4 and make it a more focused game.

Extreme Tactician · Nov 28, 2017

jett said:
Having a dedicated launcher button was one of those things, and honestly that's just smart.

In my opinion, no it isn't. It wastes an entire button on just one command. In a game where there are already so few commands, limiting it even more makes the game feel very repetitive.

DantesLink · Nov 28, 2017

Son of Sparda said:
I don't wanna tease it's just that I'm wondering if I should say something. Okay I say this since I know fans have speculate about it before:

DMCV is not on MT framework (MHW's engine)

Then please be UE4, lets get that modding on day 1!

Primethius said:
The Sony exclusive DLC is obviously going to be playable Kratos.

Capcom aiming for the big $$$.

I...would be perfectly fine with this, if the exclusivity was a PS-brand character instead of Missions/Weapons I'd say that be a fair compromise.

Kuro said:
DMC5 doesn't need shit from DmC. It can stand on its own without using anything from some weirdo shitty emo game made by an external dev.

So how far in the "edge-o-meter" does this place?

TreIII said:
I'm still not sold on the idea of using UE4. It may be a decent option for fighting games, but a DMC would require a bit more for 60fps.

What about the RE Engine, perhaps?

UE4 is a open platform that the Devs can build on. Meanwhile RE Engine is an unknown factor to us; if it was purpose-built for what RE7 plays like, it'd be no different from asking them to use Frostbite instead.

MrCarter · Nov 28, 2017

Itsuno won't even touch "Donte" with a barge pole. It's not DmC.

Omar310 · Nov 28, 2017

Joker13 said:
can we all just act DmC never happened? thank you

Nah, it was a good game

Lulu · Nov 28, 2017

jett said:
It's not going to be DmC2, come on son. I can only imagine the amount of shit that would rain down on Capcom if it were.

For real, it would be a PR nightmare for no reason. There's literally no reason for Itsuno and Capcom to go along with a DmC2 unless they have a fetish for PR backlashings.

Dmc is Itsuno's baby or at least adopted baby, DmC wasn't as popular as the OG series, it didn't sell as We'll, was a PR nightmare, there's a massive longing for the return of the classic characters, Cacpom has moved to more internal development in recent years, NT has been doing their kwn shit, there's nothing in this leak to suggest NT is anywhere on this but actually the opposite, like what more do you need fam?

DantesLink · Nov 28, 2017

MrCarter said:
Itsuno won't even touch "Donte" with a barge pole. It's not DmC.

By not continuing DmC? Sure. Not acknowledging it?

ArgyleReptile · Nov 28, 2017

ViewtifulJC said:
for all we know valve software is working on this

I mean they havent made a game in awhile

It could be DmC2

DMC V is actually Half Life 3?

Rob · Nov 28, 2017

Adamska said:
I don't think its such a huge stretch. None of us know what were the details of the contract between NT and Capcom, and DmC hints heavily at a sequel. But within the context of the leak, it might be that the only thing confirmed is a new DMC game, regardless of setting. And, if it's really being developed internally by Capcom, I would hope they do away with all the clutter introduced by DMC4 and make it a more focused game.

Of course they would hint at a sequel in DmC because then they could make one, but that isn't going to make it happen. Lots of stuff hint at sequels that never happen.

ViewtifulJC · Nov 28, 2017

I've been waiting YEARS for the heavily hinted sequel to Viewtiful Joe 3 and Half-Life 3. Sometimes that shit just dont happen, and you gotta deal with that shit and stop living in fantasy world.

jett · Nov 28, 2017

DantesLink said:
By not continuing DmC? Sure. Not acknowledging it?

Vergil to have fedora costume confirmed.

KZXcellent · Nov 28, 2017

Guys I think this is another reboot of DMC made by CyberConnect2. There's nothing saying it's not true!

Chamber · Nov 28, 2017

Lulu said:
You're doing gymnastics fam.

I don't have it in me to argue on the internet anymore. I'm just gonna let this dude cook, fuck it.

Noctis · Nov 28, 2017

DmC is trash and it will remain dead, stop with the mental gymnastics.

Adamska · Nov 28, 2017

Rob said:
Of course they would hint at a sequel in DmC because then they could make one, but that isn't going to make it happen. Lots of stuff hint at sequels that never happen.

Still, getting DmC2 would be a great thing. There's no reason for some of the cynical or childish reactions some people insist on posting. And I did not propose anything out of the ordinary, nor is it, to my knowledge, a big stretch of facts because it would be in line with some of the things posted by the leaker.

DantesLink · Nov 28, 2017

jett said:
Vergil to have fedora costume confirmed.

Don't get my hope's up, now.

ViewtifulJC · Nov 28, 2017

Adamska said:
And I did not propose anything out of the ordinary, nor is it, to my knowledge, a big stretch of facts because it would be in line with some of the things posted by the leaker.

Only if you blantantly disregard major facets of it to fit your imaginary fantasy bullshit version, like hiring the original voice actors and cutscene directors, Itsuno and his dev team, the story taking place after DMC4, DMC3 and 4 characters majorily involved, the game internal name being Devil May Cry V, explicit references to events that happen in the DMC3/4 continuity...

if you ignore ALL that, and then invent new ideas about NT being involved that came right out of your ass

then yeah its not a big stretch at all

Rob · Nov 28, 2017

Adamska said:
Still, getting DmC2 would be a great thing. There's no reason for some of the cynical or childish reactions some people insist on posting. And I did not propose anything out of the ordinary, nor is it, to my knowledge, a big stretch of facts because it would be in line with some of the things posted by the leaker.

I mean, I would still play and enjoy DmC2, but that does not line up with anything in the OP except for "Devil May Cry."

Chamber · Nov 28, 2017

DantesLink said:
Don't get my hope's up, now.

Fedora aside, I really liked DmC Vergil's appearance. It was freshened up while still being recognizable as Vergil.

Deleted member 11093 · Nov 28, 2017

DantesLink said:
By not continuing DmC? Sure. Not acknowledging it?

Developers aren't kids/fanboys, it's fine for Itsuno and co. to acknowledge DmC out of respect to Ninja Theory.

People really need to get over DmC, I wouldn't be surprised if a color palette, or even a straight up DmC skin shows up in DMC5.

Adamska · Nov 28, 2017

ViewtifulJC said:
Only if you blantantly disregard major facets of it to fit your imaginary fantasy bullshit version, like hiring the original voice actors and cutscene directors, Itsuno and his dev team, the story taking place after DMC4, DMC3 and 4 characters majorily involved, the game internal name being Devil May Cry V, explicit references to events that happen in the DMC3/4 continuity...

if you ignore ALL that, and then invent new ideas about NT being involved that came right out of your ass

then yeah its not a big stretch at all

I'm just disregarding some elements from the "leak", as they have so far remained unconfirmed. I'm sorry if you think I'm bullshitting you or anyone in this thread while posting my opinion of the leak.

Rob said:
I mean, I would still play and enjoy DmC2, but that does not line up with anything in the OP except for "Devil May Cry."

I completely understand that. But again, it's not like DmC2 was never in the cards, and we never got any confirmation that it would never be made. It's only natural that rumours about a new DMC game be accompanied about speculation on DmC2. The people who feel strongly about this to the point where they would post without a single hint of civility should take a chill pill (obvs not you, btw).

TheEnd said:
People really need to get over DmC, I wouldn't be surprised if a color palette, or even a straight up DmC skin shows up in DMC5.

I'd be very happy with this, too. Heck, if the next DMC game is 5, maybe they can make a DmC-flavored DLC, I would jump on it. But there's no reason to get over DmC, it's a great game.

Rob · Nov 28, 2017

Adamska said:
I completely understand that. But again, it's not like DmC2 was never in the cards, and we never got any confirmation that it would never be made. It's only natural that rumours about a new DMC game be accompanied about speculation on DmC2. The people who feel strongly about this to the point where they would post without a single hint of civility should take a chill pill (obvs not you, btw).

I'm sure NT did some preproduction work on a DmC2, and it's true that rumors of a new Devil May Cry can swirl that DmC pot too. However, everything in the OP points, very directly, to a sequel to DMC4 and not DmC.

Xaszatm · Nov 28, 2017

DantesLink said:
So how far in the "edge-o-meter" does this place?

Where does Infinite fit on that scale?

Dust · Nov 28, 2017

TheEnd said:
Developers aren't kids/fanboys, it's fine for Itsuno and co. to acknowledge DmC out of respect to Ninja Theory.

Tameen sure was respectful at beginning.

ColdVergil · Nov 28, 2017

Kyrie's VA recording again.

Kyle Cross · Nov 28, 2017

Noctis said:
DmC is trash and it will remain dead, stop with the mental gymnastics.

Wrong, so wrong. DmC is great.

Adamska · Nov 28, 2017

Rob said:
I'm sure NT did some preproduction work on a DmC2, and it's true that rumors of a new Devil May Cry can swirl that DmC pot too. However, everything in the OP points, very directly, to a sequel to DMC4 and not DmC.

Completely in agreement with you on this point as well. But since we don't know the validity of OP's points, I don't think speculating in favor of DmC2 is stretching things too thin. Ninja Theory has been so quiet on that front, too. And Capcom might consider sales as an argument against pursuing a new NT-based DMC game, but they can't ignore the critical reception that surrounded it, too. If sales were such a big deal for Capcom, we would never've gotten RE7.

ColdVergil said:
Kyrie's VA recording again.

Kyrie was a terrible character and no game would benefit of her presence, not DMC, not anything.

KZXcellent · Nov 28, 2017

Wouldn't take much from Stephanie Sheh's tweet she gets a good amount of work.

Korigama · Nov 28, 2017

Extreme Tactician said:
In my opinion, no it isn't. It wastes an entire button on just one command. In a game where there are already so few commands, limiting it even more makes the game feel very repetitive.

Agreed with this. Devoting a button entirely to launchers when buttons are already at a premium in a game like DMC just seems impractical to me.

Adamska said:
Kyrie was a terrible character and no game would benefit of her presence, not DMC, not anything.

Nah, Kyrie's problem was more that she was just kind of... there. They didn't do much of anything with her, much like most of DMC4's cast outside of Nero. Not strictly offensive, just not leaving much of an impression either positive or negative.

If I were to discuss outright terrible characters though, then DmC had no shortage of those.

Caiops · Nov 28, 2017

Dust said:
Tameen sure was respectful at beginning.

His vision about Dante was so wrong, Dante never was someone who couldn't control his powers or a teen "edgy".

Thank god they are not involved anymore, i liked the level design, plataform elements, but it was one of the worst stories i have ever seen in a videogame.

Jawmuncher · Nov 28, 2017

Itsuno doesn't even hate DmC. I dunno why people act like he is against the game.
The Dante skin above is proof enough. Along with the other ideas from that game which were incorporated into DMC4:SE.
If you asked him if he felt which game was a bigger blemish on the series (DMC2 or DmC). He'd probably say DMC2 without hesitation.

Like I will not be surprised if we end up seeing DmC skins for this game. Hell even MVC:I just got one.
Capcom seems to be aware that there is a fanbase for DmC. Even if some louder types try to pretend there isn't.

HStallion · Nov 28, 2017

Dust said:
Tameen sure was respectful at beginning.

I don't hate NT or despise DmC but I will have to say I think they really never seemed to truly get what made the DMC series special and lead to them trying to fix problems that weren't even an issue with the series. It felt like an outsider looking in and trying to make something they only seem to have a cursory knowledge of and it did the game no favors.

Adamska · Nov 28, 2017

Jawmuncher said:
Itsuno doesn't even hate DmC. I dunno why people act like he is against the game.
The Dante skin above is proof enough. Along with the other ideas from that game which were incorporated into DMC4:SE.
If you asked him if he felt which game was a bigger blemish on the series (DMC2 or DmC). He'd probably say DMC2 without hesitation.

Like I will not be surprised if we end up seeing DmC skins for this game. Hell even MVC:I just got one.
Capcom seems to be aware that there is a fanbase for DmC. Even if some louder types try to pretend there isn't.

The best possible outcome, if DMCV is the next game, is making DLC that continues DmC. Break it into several chapters and just sell them during an year. Now there's a Season Pass I can get behind.

LightEntite · Nov 28, 2017

DmC's issue wasn't even really Donte

I don't even mind Donte starting off the game as a cunt hobo

it was the overall story and how shit that was. The whole "THE GOVERNMENT ARE DEMONS WAKE UP FROM THE CONSPIRACY" angle was just destined to be cringey edge shit

TreIII · Nov 28, 2017

DantesLink said:
UE4 is a open platform that the Devs can build on. Meanwhile RE Engine is an unknown factor to us; if it was purpose-built for what RE7 plays like, it'd be no different from asking them to use Frostbite instead.

It may be an unknown to us, but I'm thinking Capcom has bigger plans in store for the engine. They already talked about getting it to run on Switch earlier this year, and that's a system that has no VR features at this time.

Even if it's not a match for DMC, I doubt we've heard the last of the RE Engine.

ColdVergil · Nov 28, 2017

Adamska said:
Completely in agreement with you on this point as well. But since we don't know the validity of OP's points, I don't think speculating in favor of DmC2 is stretching things too thin. Ninja Theory has been so quiet on that front, too. And Capcom might consider sales as an argument against pursuing a new NT-based DMC game, but they can't ignore the critical reception that surrounded it, too. If sales were such a big deal for Capcom, we would never've gotten RE7.

Kyrie was a terrible character and no game would benefit of her presence, not DMC, not anything.

Not denying it. Just saying she's back recording lul.

artemis · Nov 28, 2017

I hope Donte will be in Devil May Cry 5.

Deleted member 21 · Nov 28, 2017

Adamska said:
The best possible outcome, if DMCV is the next game, is making DLC that continues DmC. Break it into several chapters and just sell them during an year. Now there's a Season Pass I can get behind.

The best possible outcome is to make DMCV and DLC afterwards that continues the story for an entirely different game?

You realize how - from a business and game development perspective - this doesn't make any sense at all, right?

HStallion · Nov 28, 2017

artemis said:
I hope Donte will be in Devil May Cry 5.

Just do it like Godzilla Final Wars where Japanese Godzilla destroys the 90's American one in no time flat.

J-Skee · Nov 28, 2017

Dahbomb said:
Thread summary for those tuning in (with links):

1) Massive leak posted by Son of Sparda in the OP.
2) ZhugeEX states that leak was looked over by the mods/admins, allowed to post but on the condition that SoS takes PERMANENT BAN if this is a hoax.
3) Random supposed insider claims it's also coming on Xbox and is willing to take permanent ban for it.
4) Dahbomb posts staggering personal statement spanning 3500 words.
5) Another admin Nibel graces the thread. SweetNicole as well.
6) Claimed second leaker comes in and states that the leak is false. (ShamelessZeroMain) Also claims that DMCV will have microtransactions like DMC4SE. Source is a discord buddy.
7) Son of Sparda calls him out, starting the leaker vs leaker warfare. ShamelessZeroMain bets $1 for every post in the thread, so going $2200 strong right now.
8) SweetNicole announces that ShamelessZeroMain is beholden to the same rules as SoS. If he's wrong then he also gets permabanned.
9) ShamelessZero gets shook, starts backpedaling. More backpedaling. And more. And then some. Admits to drinking and saying stupid shit.
10) Admins ask Shameless to deliver sources, he doesn't comply. ShamelessZeroMain gets banned for trolling and having an alt account. Takes to Twitter to complain that his esports manager got a hold of his Resetera account.
11) People so hype for DMCV they start streaming this thread on youtube as it develops!
12) Sunhilegends delivers godlike gif for DMCV!
13) Gaming news outlet start running the story, it has officially gone big and viral.
14) Geoff Keighley aka the Doritos Pope graces the thread with his presence!
15) Dantelinkx comes in and leaks through a proxy that DMCV will get unveiled at either PSX or TGA. Fanning the flames of the leaker wars!
16) Maximillian D00d (famous youtubers) chimes in on the DMCV hype!
17) Dahbomb makes actual analysis of the leaks.
18) IGN first major gaming website to report on the leak.
19) MBS claims that Vergil being Nero's father is as likely as Trish being Lady's mother....

These were the highlights. About 50 "The time has come and so have I" gifs as well.

OMG this thread is insane. This feels like Project Beast all over again.

Soulstar · Nov 28, 2017

Rob said:
What behavior during development? I'm not sure I remember what they did.

The leak said that internally it's being called Devil May Cry V. Not to mention the VA and developers from older non-DmC games are involved, it's a pretty forgone conclusion that it's not DmC2.

The main one for me was the pic with Dante from DMC4 on Brokeback Mountain. Implying that it was gay and the implication of being gay is a bad thing. It left a really bad taste in my mouth.

Dahbomb · Nov 28, 2017

Man I woke up to some stuff today....

Looks like Trish and Kyrie VA posted something.

Hmm....

Sargerus · Nov 28, 2017

Nibel said:
The best possible outcome is to make DMCV and DLC afterwards that continues the story for an entirely different game?

You realize how - from a business and game development perspective - this doesn't make any sense at all, right?

Let him dream.

Rob · Nov 28, 2017

Soulstar said:
The main one for me was the pic with Dante from DMC4 on Brokeback Mountain. Implying that it was gay and the implication of being gay is a bad thing. It left a really bad taste in my mouth.

I totally did not see that. That's fucking terrible.

Village · Nov 28, 2017

jett said:
Vergil to have fedora costume confirmed.

I actually kind of like most of that outfit, so not too mad about that

Emka · Nov 28, 2017

I was wondering when does this thread would have gone full DmC debate. It always end up happening in every DMC discussion now. With the question of Capcom and Itsuno acknowledgement of DmC, the story, the now infamous powerpoint "this is/this is not Dante",...
We only need a salty DmC fan chiming in to say the only reason some people didn't like DmC was because Dante didn't have white hair and we will close the loop until the next DmC debate.

KZXcellent · Nov 28, 2017

Rob said:
I totally did not see that. That's fucking terrible.

I can't believe this is real.

ColdVergil · Nov 28, 2017

Emka said:
I was wondering when does this thread would have gone full DmC debate. It always end up happening in every DMC discussion now. With the question of Capcom and Itsuno acknowledgement of DmC, the story, the now infamous powerpoint "this is/this is not Dante",...
We only need a salty DmC fan chiming in to say the only reason some people didn't like DmC was because Dante didn't have white hair and we will close the loop until the next DmC debate.

You can count it, it will come, there's always one lol.

Son of Sparda · Nov 28, 2017

Okay just a tiny update/leak: (I'll add these to OP as well)

- PlayStation 4 first, PC later.
- Unreal Engine 4

Dahbomb · Nov 28, 2017

Damn just when I thought we had stopped...

The leaks don't LOL!

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