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Powdered Egg

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Oct 27, 2017
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No offense, some of ya'll are losers. Met all my girlfriends through mutual friends and common interests. It's not that difficult leaving strangers minding their own business alone. Step your life game up.
 

Xaszatm

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Oct 25, 2017
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But that's the thing. It's not a 10/10 fail rate. Even if you do fail, then accept defeat and move on. I don't mind looking like a loser to a total stranger because (1) I won't probably ever see them again and (2) I had the courage and confidence to try in the first place.

So every women must be subjected to constant harrasment because YOU found success? So basically "fuck you, got mine".
 

Driggonny

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Oct 26, 2017
2,170
But that's the thing. It's not a 10/10 fail rate. Even if you do fail, then accept defeat and move on. I don't mind looking like a loser to a total stranger because (1) I won't probably ever see them again and (2) I had the courage and confidence to try in the first place.
I just wanted to say something I didn't get the chance to say earlier lol. Men have almost literally 0 repercussions for the things they say to women. 0. I could tell you story after story of gross shit men have said to me and my friends, on and off the job, who got to disappear and continue living their lives as if nothing happened.

As someone with social anxiety I could empathize with the idea of being nervous out of your mind to talk to someone. But it is not rational; it is not the other person's problem. Especially if the scenario is cold approaching a woman who just wants to buy some goddamn chips without fanfare.
 

Celestine

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Oct 31, 2017
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Tokyo, Japan
If you guys have so much trouble getting into relationships it's probably bc you have no friends in the first place. Remedy that first. Talking to people in public to be friendly is fine if the culture of your area dictates that (Texas or whatever) but by god don't randomly hit on people or make suggestive comments to a stranger. An overwhelming majority of women here are saying no so stop saying yes.
 
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psychowave

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Oct 25, 2017
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i wanna know why married men are so concerned about the possibility that they might not be allowed to randomly approach women when they're minding their own business
 

mael

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Nov 3, 2017
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So every women must be subjected to constant harrasment because YOU found success? So basically "fuck you, got mine".
It's even more hilarious, he didn't found success through the method discussed in the thread, he actually used a dating app.
It's basically like a cyclist explaining to pedestrians that he has no problem sharing the road with cars and pedestrian should suck it up because as a cyclist he has no pb.
 

Tuorom

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Oct 30, 2017
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Women: No we don't like being cold-approached.

Men: But I am so special. How will I ever meet my one true love? What about MY feelings? Shouldn't I have the chance?
I
I
ME

Only my happiness matters

Guys!! Women don't like it. It is not a behaviour that is considerate of their feelings, and if you are a real nice guy then you will believe them and adjust your behaviour accordingly. You aren't being attacked, you are being asked to be empathetic and respectful.

Put it out of your mind that cold approaches work, or are a way of getting a date. Don't think of it as a possibility because women don't like it therefore it is unacceptable behaviour.
 

i-hate-u

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Oct 25, 2017
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But that's the thing. It's not a 10/10 fail rate. Even if you do fail, then accept defeat and move on. I don't mind looking like a loser to a total stranger because (1) I won't probably ever see them again and (2) I had the courage and confidence to try in the first place.

Confidence is what you have when you decide you're saving face and dignity, and not causing harm to others.

That's true courage.
 

Angie

Best Avatar Thread Ever!
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Nov 20, 2017
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Kingdom of Corona
cold opens and mansplaining and all these gross obsessions with getting the green light to overstep boundaries, women be damned.

this thread is amazing :')
Is quite something else right?
A thread asking women how they feel about cold approach. Which leads to get 90% of the replies from men.
Is like they are talking in our behalf.
 
OP
OP
hydrophilic attack
Oct 25, 2017
21,442
Sweden
Right, and I think I asked you to expand on that, if even your actions pleased 99 people but displeased 1 that means you should never do it right? Since it has the potential to "make the life worse" of one person?
that's a completely inaccurate and unrealistic hypothetical scenario that has no bearing on the actual universe we live in

it's pretty obvious at this point you're not engaging with the actual points people put time into making and that you're clearly trolling
 

Azem

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Oct 25, 2017
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-college group of friends, hit it off with one
-met one guy online, didn't realize we lived so close so we met up for shits and giggles and ended up hanging out a lot and clicking well
-I met my husband at a college club and he started inviting me to parties after we found we enjoyed talking to each other, hooked up at one of the parties
You can't just lie and tell people that you got to know someone as an actual human being with thoughts and feelings and ideas and interests instead of being overcome by romantic and/or sexual interest as you observed a stranger engaged in the mundane necessitities of life. That's not how this works!
 
Oct 25, 2017
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You're all just talking past each other at this point. Most of the men coming through this thread don't give a fuck that women don't want to be bothered and apparently there's nothing that can be done about it.
 

Cokie Bear

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Oct 27, 2017
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But that's the thing. It's not a 10/10 fail rate. Even if you do fail, then accept defeat and move on. I don't mind looking like a loser to a total stranger because (1) I won't probably ever see them again and (2) I had the courage and confidence to try in the first place.

But you're ok with putting them in the awkward situation of having to reject the advances of yet another stranger and hoping they're fine with it?
 

Xaszatm

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Oct 25, 2017
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i wanna know why married men are so concerned about the possibility that they might not be allowed to randomly approach women when they're minding their own business

Because they want to oogle women without feeling bad about it.

Alright one more post for now. Since you guys seem to be clueless and think it's impossible to date unless you accost someone in public, I'll list a few places I've met guys I dated:
-friend of a friend, hung out some a hooked up
-another friend in our social group
-college group of friends, hit it off with one
-met one guy online, didn't realize we lived so close so we met up for shits and giggles and ended up hanging out a lot and clicking well
-college parties
-I met my husband at a college club and he started inviting me to parties after we found we enjoyed talking to each other, hooked up at one of the parties

If I hadn't married I'd probably date someone from a new circle of friends, or through my field of work (not same office though please), or heck even online gaming since I'm so into that (but would never respond to "omg a girl please date me")—I just meet up with people a lot and make friends

If you guys have so much trouble getting into relationships it's probably bc you have no friends in the first place. Remedy that first. Talking to people in public to be friendly is fine if the culture of your area dictates that (Texas or whatever) but by god don't randomly hit on people or make suggestive comments to a stranger. An overwhelming majority of women here are saying no so stop saying yes.

It's almost as if romantic relationships are more about the personality than what someone's dick feels, but these man-children refuse to understand that. Thanks for sticking with this thread for so long though.
 

deltabreak

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Oct 29, 2017
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I've never approached a girl to ask for their number but would this still be weird at a convention or a concert? That's where I could imagine myself to do it to find people that were interested in the same stuff I am (and potentially hang out and keep in contact)
 

excelsiorlef

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Oct 25, 2017
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I've never approached a girl to ask for their number but would this still be weird at a convention or a concert? That's where I could imagine myself to do it to find people that were interested in the same stuff I am (and potentially hang out and keep in contact)

Let organic conversations happen rather than going after digits
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Mount Airy, MD
I'll never understand why the reaction to "Please don't do <THING THAT INVOLVES DIRECT AND DELIBERATE INTERACTION> with me" is anything but "Okay, of course".

It's utterly galling that knowing lots of women don't like being casually approached doesn't make everyone step back and say "Well I guess I won't do that".
 

Morrigan

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Oct 24, 2017
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As a black male I have never even considered doing this, especially given how it would only take a single misinterpretation or false accusation for me to end up in trouble.

That being said, based on what certain posters have said, I have to admit I am now somewhat curious to try this "cold approach" thing just to see what will result from it.
Wait, based on what has been said in this thread (which is a vast majority of women saying they don't like it, it makes them uncomfortable, feel unsafe, etc.), your take is, "oh cool let me try it"?

What?
 
Oct 25, 2017
26,560
Ok, so from what I am understanding, from the 2 examples you posted, you wanted to get to them to develop a potential relationship/friendship with those women, which was started by your first DM, right?

See, shit like this makes me cringe so hard inside.
That's your issue to work out. Not mine.

Wanted to get to them? What does that even mean. I talked to the people I was already interacting with more personally? That makes you cringe?
 

MirVie

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Nov 17, 2017
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I asked a few clarifying questions ITT for future knowledge to share with my progeny.


In the mean time I am teaching my daughter on how to deal with creeps that approach her in public how to turn them down without endangering herself. How to be polite but never give out personal information like a phone number, what to do when a guy can't handle "no" and they keep following her, how to find help when guys like that will get verbally or physically violent.
My "progeny" is going to college next year and is having to deal with lovely guys like the ones above in this thread. you know the ones who say they respect women but have spent 25 pages long not listening to a single word we say.
 

Forearms

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Oct 25, 2017
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FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY TEACH THEM CONSENT!
That's for everyone with kids btw.

While consent seems a bit out of context for this discussion - I sure will. I only have a daughter at the moment, so talking about consent will be important so she feels empowered to take the appropriate action if someone isn't asking for it. I'll also know how she feels if/when she complains to me about creepy behavior from men down the road (though I understand her sharing those experiences may not happen).
 

Ralemont

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Jan 3, 2018
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Dunning-Kruger is a huge problem with cold approaches. Yes, ideally women would be all right with them if as much as a disinterested glance was enough to signal a man no, and they were skilled enough at reading body language to understand and accept. That's not the world we live in. I consider myself pretty used to social cues, but I do miss them. Everyone does. And you miss more cues than you think, always. So I stay away from initiating with people I don't know unless I'm getting very obvious social cues.

Having said that - and others can feel free to correct me here - all of that doesn't mean you can't talk to women in public. Festivals, for example, are a good place to talk to people because everyone is there for a social interaction. But don't go to a festival looking to hit on a woman, and if you leave without a number it's a failure. Just engage them as a fellow festival-goer and err on the side of "time to back off" if you are unsure of the vibe (again, see paragraph 1). If they are interested, they'll come back to talk to you.
 

Xaszatm

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Oct 25, 2017
10,903
Wait, based on what has been said in this thread (which is a vast majority of women saying they don't like it, it makes them uncomfortable, feel unsafe, etc.), your take is, "oh cool let me try it"?

What?

I mean, ignoring women's feelings in the matter does seem to be the MO for men in this thread in general.
 
Oct 25, 2017
26,560
To some of the other guy posters in this thread, where is you dignity? Why are you belittling yourself trying to approach a woman for romantic reasons when 10/10 times you end up looking like a loser?
Why are you like this?

You're kind of making of a point one moment, but then you take it to such an absolute extreme, literally no other person could agree.
 

mael

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Nov 3, 2017
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While consent seems a bit out of context for this discussion - I sure will. I only have a daughter at the moment, so talking about consent will be important so she feels empowered to take the appropriate action if someone isn't asking for it. I'll also know how she feels if/when she complains to me about creepy behavior from men down the road (though I understand her sharing those experiences may not happen).
Congrats on the little bundle of joy, seriously it's actually pretty easy to overlook to teach consent to kids (there's already a billion things to pass on to them already).
Ideally a woman she can count on would be best to help her to navigate the hellscape that is modern society.
I think we had a thread about the relationship between father/daughter and how fathers tend to be all macho overprotective so that the daughter HAD to protect the feelings of the father at all cost, from a rando on the internet to another rando on the internet please for your daughter's sake don't be that kind of father.

As a black male I have never even considered doing this, especially given how it would only take a single misinterpretation or false accusation for me to end up in trouble.

That being said, based on what certain posters have said, I have to admit I am now somewhat curious to try this "cold approach" thing just to see what will result from it.
We've got a dude who really want to do the news as a white woman call the police on him.
 

Stove

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Oct 27, 2017
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Some of the men in here are pathetic.

Learn to listen to other people and think of other people before yourself. Jesus.
 

i-hate-u

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Oct 25, 2017
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Because talking to someone face to face is more enjoyable than texting when youre enjoying the conversation. You can also read people better. No matter how hard you try, you can't spin this to be a bad thing.

So it's purely for shared interest, and you have no intention to ever develop it into a romantic relationship.
 

mael

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Nov 3, 2017
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Tbh this thread is worth it for some of the hilarious sarcastic reactions of fellow ERA women

I'd buy you gals a beer

After asking of course ;)
Major oversight on my part there, I tend to freely offer beers even to people who don't necessarily want one.
I'll keep wasting my money.
I kinda like offering beer.
Also that doesn't mean I want to talk to you or anything if I'm offering you a beer.
 

Xaszatm

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Oct 25, 2017
10,903
At this point, I have to ask, what are men here actually looking for in a SO? I mean, I'm asexual and aromantic so maybe I "just don't get it", but I thought a SO is someone you want to spend the rest of your life with. Isn't compatibility, shared interests, and actual care for each other. Why are men looking in grocery stores for such things with strangers they don't even know for SOs?
 

Driggonny

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Oct 26, 2017
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At this point, I have to ask, what are men here actually looking for in a SO? I mean, I'm asexual and aromantic so maybe I "just don't get it", but I thought a SO is someone you want to spend the rest of your life with. Isn't compatibility, shared interests, and actual care for each other. Why are men looking in grocery stores for such things with strangers they don't even know for SOs?
You wouldn't understand this but lots of men just wanna get their dick wet first and if it leads to an SO that's cool too
 

Trojita

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hey I'll apologize. I let my interactions with OP from a thread the day before affect my outlook on this thread. I also thought the original post in the dating thread was more geared towards being able to be more social in everyday life, with the added benefit of meeting women that were interested in him. The last few years I've been able to be a lot more social. I feel very comfortable initiating small talk with strangers, both men and women, without hoping for romantic or sexual relationships.
 

Xaszatm

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Oct 25, 2017
10,903
You wouldn't understand this but lots of men just wanna get their dick wet first and if it leads to an SO that's cool too

And they question why they're so unsuccessful?

If I cold approached someone else, but their body language said otherwise, then I respect that and move on.

However, if they show interest back, then I'll carry on with the conversation.

And the vast majority of women telling you that no, people don't leave them alone doesn't register to you at all?
 

Sunster

The Fallen
Oct 5, 2018
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At this point, I have to ask, what are men here actually looking for in a SO? I mean, I'm asexual and aromantic so maybe I "just don't get it", but I thought a SO is someone you want to spend the rest of your life with. Isn't compatibility, shared interests, and actual care for each other. Why are men looking in grocery stores for such things with strangers they don't even know for SOs?
They're not looking for SO's if they're talking to women on the street and in grocery stores.
 

TSM

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Oct 27, 2017
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I, personally, would never accost a stranger like that, but I do understand why it happens. As with most things, expecting people not to act in their own self interest seems like a lost cause.