• Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
  • We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.

Ralemont

Member
Jan 3, 2018
4,508
Excuse me? Why on earth is having friends some sort of requirement for dating?

Well, putting aside dating for a moment, having friends is simply going to benefit you as a means to have a healthy mental and social life. It's going to put you in a more positive mood, boost your self-esteem and confidence, expand your horizons and interests, and give your life more variety. This in itself makes you a more attractive partner romantically.

For dating, friends are important because they can show someone that you are a functioning person capable of maintaining healthy relationships in your life. They show that you are the type of person people enjoy calling a friend. They show that you won't be fully dependent on a dating partner for all your emotional needs and that you will have other things to do in your life when the two of you aren't meeting up so that you aren't overly clingy. Besides what having friends demonstrates, friends can ALSO turn into potential dating partners, which is why I said it was a win-win.
 
OP
OP
hydrophilic attack
Oct 25, 2017
21,459
Sweden
Most of the time it works since they usually show some interest first -- a prolonged look, a smile, etc.. When it didn't work, it's easy to know when to get up out their face from body language or actual language.
if you only approach in those situations (and you're damn sure about what you saw) i'd say that's different

(using the PUA lingo, it would be more of a lukewarm approach than a stone cold one)
 

excelsiorlef

Bad Praxis
Member
Oct 25, 2017
73,325
I would not ask a gaming board about normal social interactions. Half of ya'll likely find talking to the GameStop clerk and turning down their rewards card sales pitch a traumatic experience.

The women here are giving the exact same advice you'll get in just about any other place.

The Dudes seem to have learned romance from Mass Effect.
 

excelsiorlef

Bad Praxis
Member
Oct 25, 2017
73,325
Yeah I saw your 2nd post. Didn't know you were including the cold approaching aspect.

I would say in general that having no friends and dating is red flag of sorts, not bury you in their backyard red flag like mentioning it as part of a cold approach, but in general it means that you'd become their one and only emotional contact, and yeah that's a red flag for likely disaster.
 

DukeBlue

Banned
Nov 6, 2017
1,502
Really? If someone is very lonely due to for example anxiety, a simple smile to that person can make his day.
Yes! A lot of the people here saying "dont fucking talk to others in public" dont realize that small acts of kindness go a long way towarsa brightening somebody elses day. This is completely separate from trying to flirt/pick up women/dudes, by the way.
 

Xaszatm

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10,903
Really? If someone is very lonely due to for example anxiety, a simple smile to that person can make his day.
Yes! A lot of the people here saying "dont fucking talk to others in public" dont realize that small acts of kindness go a long way towarsa brightening somebody elses day. This is completely separate from trying to flirt/pick up women/dudes, by the way.
I'm sorry but women are not responsible for men's happiness, especially if they are strangers.
 

Ralemont

Member
Jan 3, 2018
4,508
Yes! A lot of the people here saying "dont fucking talk to others in public" dont realize that small acts of kindness go a long way towarsa brightening somebody elses day. This is completely separate from trying to flirt/pick up women/dudes, by the way.

Yes, which again tracing this convo line back is why I said to develop a circle of friends before relying on dating for stuff like that. Especially before cold approaching women. Friends are amazing for kindness and helping with anxiety.
 

D65

Member
Oct 26, 2017
6,862
You met 3 of your best friends by asking random people for their phone number? Not like trying to break the ice, just going "hey women, give me your number"? Because that's the OP scenario.

No I am saying, I've only done it 3 times. All ended up in dates (like at least 3 each) and two are best friends. Friendships I and they cherish.

There's a way to go about telling someone they're super interesting and you'll let them have your details.
 

Bulby

Prophet of Truth
Member
Oct 29, 2017
5,038
Berlin
The women here are giving the exact same advice you'll get in just about any other place.

I have asked 3 friends at work today and the reply was, if they are polite and take no for an answer, they dont mind. But hey, fuck anecdotal evidence.

The question I proposed was - a guy politely asking for a phone number in public.
 

Trojita

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,721
I would say in general that having no friends and dating is red flag of sorts, not bury you in their backyard red flag like mentioning it as part of a cold approach, but in general it means that you'd become their one and only emotional contact, and yeah that's a red flag for likely disaster.
I wouldn't say it would likely be their only emotional contact. There's always family.
 

Xaszatm

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10,903
I have asked 3 friends at work today and the reply was, if they are polite and take no for an answer, they dont mind. But hey, fuck anecdotal evidence.

The question I proposed was - a guy politely asking for a phone number in public.

You know what, fine. You, and soley you, are 100% correct. Not every women in this thread, not the women who have told you no, only you because apparently only you know what every women is thinking. Truly we are blessed by such a psychic in our mists.
 

D65

Member
Oct 26, 2017
6,862
So are you talking here about experiences of you, a woman, approaching other people, or other people approaching you?

If I'm understanding what people here are saying correctly, because of the difference in power and size between the typical man and the typical woman and because of the difference in statistics of violent crimes committed by men compared to violent crimes committed by women, there may be a difference in how people would feel about being approached out of the blue by you, and how they would fell about being approached out of the blue by men

(Sorry for mansplaining)

Before I came out as transgender.

I don't really... Approach anyone anymore haha, but I have been approached by girls now.


Honestly I get it. I have never had MEN approach me and I will hate it when it happens but being respectful is super important. I'm just saying there's a way to do it. It isn't some high priority way to meet women.

I know guys who are super PUA like and gross af and that's not what I am saying is fine to do every now and then.
 

Dead Guy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,608
Saskatchewan, Canada
Yes! A lot of the people here saying "dont fucking talk to others in public" dont realize that small acts of kindness go a long way towarsa brightening somebody elses day. This is completely separate from trying to flirt/pick up women/dudes, by the way.

That's not what Im saying.

Like on my campus, there's a lot of info screens that has this "Sometime, smiling to a person or asking a person to a coffee might brighten the persons day".

Coming from someone with awful social anxiety and loneliness, I get what you guys are saying but the fact is that no one is responsible for trying to make your day better. If you have a mental illness that's holding you back in life it's on you to do something about it, not anyone else. As much as I would love it if someone were to randomly start a conversation with me or even just acknowledge my existence when I'm out and about, its not their job or responsibility to.
 

RedMercury

Blue Venus
Member
Dec 24, 2017
17,655
Dating advice: "Don't have friends? Use dating apps."

Dating app advice: "Don't use selfies and make sure to show a pictures of you with your friends"
So what is the argument, it's just too hard for men? Gonna have to miss me with that. It isn't anyone else's fault someone doesn't have a partner and no woman needs to suffer advances because of it.
2 of my past gfs have been cold approaches. I'll never stop.
"I don't give a shit what women have to say"

Why not just say that?
 

excelsiorlef

Bad Praxis
Member
Oct 25, 2017
73,325
That's not what Im saying.

Like on my campus, there's a lot of info screens that has this "Sometime, smiling to a person or asking a person to a coffee might brighten the persons day".

Dude you literally replied to me talking about how if someone with literally zero friends tries to cold apporach me I'm running away... to talk about how I should smile at them, I'm not going to give them false hope that I'm the sparkle unicorn that will make all their pain go away...

I smile when something makes me happy,, not so some dude who thinks my time his his feels better about himself as he tries to get my number.
 

Soran

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
697
Well, you wouldn't really know until you chatted them up and they would either tell you or simply say theyre not interested.
You are out of your mind if you think a stranger will tell you their sexuality as if was their favorite pizza. People are constantly putting their lives in danger when they come out.
 
Dec 2, 2017
1,544
In this thread, we have established that, as usual, men are the true victims here. Never mind that men might harass us, rape us, or even kill us, we still owe them courtesy and a smile. Behold, the patriarchy.
 

excelsiorlef

Bad Praxis
Member
Oct 25, 2017
73,325
I have asked 3 friends at work today and the reply was, if they are polite and take no for an answer, they dont mind. But hey, fuck anecdotal evidence.

The question I proposed was - a guy politely asking for a phone number in public.

I asked 16 women on my facebook and they all agree with me.
 

DukeBlue

Banned
Nov 6, 2017
1,502
You are out of your mind if you think a stranger will tell you their sexuality as if was their favorite pizza. People are constantly putting their lives in danger when they come out.
I mean, I know that, thats why I said they could also say theyre not interested. I only said they would tell them their sexuality because I tell ppl at my uni im gay right off the bat when it seems we may become friends, though I know the experience is different for women.
 

mael

Avenger
Nov 3, 2017
16,796
I swear to god I tried finding a gif of Natalie Wynn saying "femoid" but my googlefu ended up in pretty dark places.
Upside Adam Conover knows Natalie Wynn, I feel like all the good youtubers know each other and are friend or something...

e: I was searching that because someone mentioned the bingo missing a "female" case
 
OP
OP
hydrophilic attack
Oct 25, 2017
21,459
Sweden
Before I came out as transgender.

I don't really... Approach anyone anymore haha, but I have been approached by girls now.


Honestly I get it. I have never had MEN approach me and I will hate it when it happens but being respectful is super important. I'm just saying there's a way to do it. It isn't some high priority way to meet women.

I know guys who are super PUA like and gross af and that's not what I am saying is fine to do every now and then.
OK, sorry for assuming

If there's anything that both the small minority of women who are ok with it and the vast majority who hates it seem to agree on, it's that how you go about it really matters a lot, and that one really shouldn't do it unless one has highly developed social skills and can take a hint with grace. The kind of people who'd go for advice to websites and youtubers that use "cold approach" as standard lingo most definitely lack those qualities
 

Xaszatm

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10,903
Even my 3rd husband who died in a mysterious lumber accident agreed 100% sound

Look how many men are just so eager to run into the wood chipper! Clearly all men love it! Anyone who says otherwise is clearly wrong.

RedAjarIndigowingedparrot-small.gif