If anything, RDR2 surprised me with how they handled racism and other topics.
Kill a racist on the street and get your honour up, no problem. For example.
I loved that.
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Kill a racist on the street and get your honour up, no problem. For example.
I loved that.
Fair point. I clicked on the thread because the title was interesting. I read the OP and then suddenly I see the usual ERA crowd one liners: "men are trash", "gamers are a mistake", etc. Instead of focussing on the moron making offensive videos and YouTubes rightful decision to ban them, lots of users, including myself, focused on the needless inflammatory shitposts.
To be clear, the youtuber is wrong and an embarrassing human being. YouTube was right to shut him down. But posting "men are trash" and "gamers are a mistake" just distract from the actual problem and topic being discussed and add absolutely nothing of value to the thread. These type of posts do nothing but derail thread after thread related to these issues but they are a constant presence. It would be nice if these posts were warned just as other derailing shitposts are.
This isn't on R*.
The player has spun this into something a base that dislikes women can actively engage in. Even if you did decide to kill them in your own play through, that is just you acting out on shit you wouldn't do in the real world or whatever. But to make a bunch of videos titles like this:
This ain't just killing a video game character. No need to make excuses for boys.
How old are you? Because I was using the whole "it's just a game!" argument back in grade school. It's a silly argument.
You have to understand, men are the true victims here. We have a nice thread in ectera about harassing women where a bunch of men reached the same conclusion.
Glad this dude got banned.
I'm quite sure this was one of the assholes who would constantly spoil videogames with YT thumbnails.
Right after I finished God of War, I marked a lot of his videos as "doesn't interest me" and I even "blocked" his channel in an attempt to prevent the YT algorithm from recommending his videos to me.
Glad he got his account terminated.
Right after I finished God of War, I marked a lot of his videos as "doesn't interest me" and I even "blocked" his channel in an attempt to prevent the YT algorithm from recommending his videos to me.
Glad he got his account terminated.
You mean where I agreed with the critcisims of recent Marvel, but said several times I didn't agree with much else? I'm flattered you remember... who are you?
OR. .. You know... They just have to not create 20 videos glamorizing killing people of a single political belief?
Ya know, like normal fucking people.
I haven't seen anything about killing racist on the street, I did fuck up the KKK however.
Is this post serious? If it makes you feel any better it's also considered unacceptable and a crime in the game.
Why wouldn't you? The game has very few restrictions on who you can kill, kidnap or rob, you will be discouraged by high bounties and the honor system, but if you want you can do a lot to innocent NPCs.
I haven't seen anything about killing racist on the street, I did fuck up the KKK however. You do not get honor for it, your honor just doesn't drop. I think they handled it well there.
Yeah, them too.
Might've overstated the honour bit, as mine was already high. I'd have been disappointed if it lowered it though.
Glad it didn't.
The racist guy is somewhere in Saint Denis, chatting about White genocide. He kind of looks like Hitler.
You could kill the guy and the police won't do shit, lol.
this type of phenomena isn't new - and its pandemic to gamer culture. i'd be less concerned with this one particular instance and look at what's pervading the culture to let such ideas fester
Why do you guys love to generalize so much. It's nasty.
And a lot of self hatred going on in these forums.
Yeah, male fragility in full effect. Driver was right in saying the post is kind of over the top and does feel like there's a hint of self loathing in there. But it kind of goes without saying that not all men are terrible. It's the same thing with answering Black Lives Matter with All Lives Matter (Black people are not saying other lives do not matter or are less important), it kind of misses the point and jumps to the DO NOT GENERALIZE argument. Which should be an unspoken rule in most cases.
He's not far from this women. He's giving out pamphlets about protecting the white race or something along those lines.
Hey, don't call him ''Red Dead Redemption 2 player", he don't deserve to be part of this community. We folks kill KKK, not feminist.
Since the post was made, on Page 3 or 4, less people have discussed the actions of YT and the dude and spent more time pushing back on the hyperbolic accusations of "sexism". It's derailed the thread, and I expect this thread'll be closed in a page or two.
But, to your second point, the "men" in this context doesn't refer to men as a whole. Even a child can understand that. The "men" in this case clearly refer to the predominantly male members of the gaming community who not only make content like this but reward people who do. If you can't see the difference, you're either being intentionally obtuse about the context or you genuinely don't understand the context in which this is placed. Most times, it's the first, because this argument has played out time and time again here. Male who plays games does something bad -> People rush into defend him -> Some angry user says something hyperbolic about men or gamers -> People rush into call out the gamer for sexism or "#NotAllGamers." When the issue is someone adding fuel to the alt-right overtones of gaming or saying a homophobic slur or saying racial slurs, why is your primary issue someone's angry statement about the community this is in? Why are you running damage control for something that really doesn't need it?
I can only speak for myself but it might be because things like the videos this thread about are just one of many many many examples of gaming being an oftentimes hostile and terrifying community for many of us
They know the context they are just willing being obtuse or ignorant to push a gamergate agenda.
Sorry I can't get into a lobby on any game I want to play and not see at least one vocal trumper with the username xxxGasthejuicexxx
"Bbbut just ignore them." Fuck that, it should be banned not ignored. Go the r6 route and purge these depraved fucks.
Can't even make friends on games anymore because like 2/3ds of the people you meet are bigots
I completely forgot about that, that bit was great. Loved what Arthur had to say there.
Haha. I did that twice, laughed and moved on.
edit: This was with GTA3. They really stepped up the "realism" it seems with GTAV.
I think articles like this do a disservice to the feminist movement. Let's face it, the game is open ended you CAN be a woman bashing faciast. You also can bow to kill every man in sight and only men. In either case, you will be a murdering sociopath. By highlighting what a single type of asshole gamer might do with their freedom, they have provided them with an even larger platform to spread their hate.
He should get his channel back.
Youtube 'drawing lines in the sand' at a moments notice is unprofessional.
Although, I just think it was an influx of flaggers that made Youtube's algorithm shut his channel down.
Youtube, update your "rule book'.
If you have an issue with violence against women, feminist, etc in VIDEO GAMES, state that.
What I should not see, is this kid's channel getting taken down, but yet you have an endless video catalog of women getting beaten & killed in GTA.
- Give this kid his channel back.
- Then on your end, decide where your morality stands when it comes to uploading certain things in video games.
It's not rocket science.
Youtube 'drawing lines in the sand' at a moments notice is unprofessional.
Although, I just think it was an influx of flaggers that made Youtube's algorithm shut his channel down.
Youtube, update your "rule book'.
If you have an issue with violence against women, feminist, etc in VIDEO GAMES, state that.
What I should not see, is this kid's channel getting taken down, but yet you have an endless video catalog of women getting beaten & killed in GTA.
- Give this kid his channel back.
- Then on your end, decide where your morality stands when it comes to uploading certain things in video games.
It's not rocket science.
I did chuckle at the video, but it didn't have anything to do with the gender of character being slugged. I was mostly impressed at the animations, from the shove, to the punch right to the jaw.
I remember accidentally assassinating one of the crazy leper guys in the first Assassin's Creed and feeling a little bad. I always tried to just avoid them.
I remember accidentally assassinating one of the crazy leper guys in the first Assassin's Creed and feeling a little bad. I always tried to just avoid them.
But fuck the minstrels. I beat them up without even the slightest remorse. lol
Many people on the IGN messageboards are bragging about it and patting themselves on the back for it. How is it sensationalism when many dudebro beta cuks are doing it?
I'm pretty sure you get honor for killing
that slave hunter dude
Do you think women are weak, fragile snowflakes that need protecting?
Sick of how these assholes wish to display their love for violence against women. This hobby has gotten way too despicable for me. Between misogynists, right wingers trying to recruit, and shit like gamergate and swatting etc, I'd just rather go back to retro gaming and avoid most interactions like multiplayer.
P.s. Fuck sexist pigs Nazis.
P.s. Fuck sexist pigs Nazis.
Do you mean "fuck alt-right American white male gamers who made up less than 25% of the entire gaming world" ?
Except that's false. The game is very black and white with how it presents social issues. It's very much about condemning hateful people, whether they're racist or sexist. In the mission the author is talking about there
the leader of the particular suffrage movement has a speech where she talks about equal rights were what our founding fathers want. And then you have these obnoxious asshole guy walk in and say "YEAAH...FOUNDING FATHERS, NOT FOUNDING MOTHERS!!". Did the author think that was meant to be taken as a positive? And while they're riding through town and being harassed by people, the leader comments to Arthur something along the lines, "I give you, the male species", to which Arthur replies, "It was a dumb one. I give you that". There are other examples as well.
For such a small group your think I wouldn't see them in every multiplayer game I play, they're not the minority, they're the norm
He shouldn't. And Youtube isn't drawing any line. From their ToS
He got rightfully banned following their ToS and it should stay the same.
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Let's fucking stop at trying to find excuses for scum like this guy. PLEASE?
...because you are playing on western servers, there are more people in here Asia than all of you combined, and we rarely use sexism or racism slurrs. RARELY. You got nasty people here too but they use insults that's not related to your gender or race.
The thing is, to dismiss these as shitposts is disingenuous. These are statements of anger from groups that are routinely targeted by a sizeable portion of gamers. This isn't the same as someone posting "Fuck Blizzard and their anti-consumer bullshit" in a D:I thread. One is an angry comment coming from someone belonging to a group that get harassed, doxxed, and just tortured by the internet, and the other is coming from a gamer that is facing, at best, mild inconvenience by having a game they can't play. There's a massive gulf between the two. What really happens to men as a result of the off-hand comment? A hurt feeling? A sense of anger that'll fade away in an hour at most? It hurts being targeted and misgeneralized as something hurting the hobby you love, right?
Now imagine that feeling, but its amplified by a thousand and its constant. That's how I imagine the average female gamer feels on the internet. Speak up at how you think its nonsense that a courageous hero is wearing a chainmail bikini and high heels? Hate. Speak up about how you find Japan's fetishization of minors off-putting? Hate. Imagine being called an SJW and an immense amount of slurs, all because something made you feel hurt and a bit angry and you spoke up against it. That's what these folks are feeling now, and that's what women and minorities feel on a near constant basis just for liking games and wanting to be better.
Gamers are garbage, men are trash, and the internet was a mistake. So sad that something which has given me so much joy throughout my life has developed a culture around it filled with disgusting garbage people that I would never want to associate with. I wish I had a different hobby.
Maybe, it's more of a fact that it's a popular medium? That requires you to be social with others? I don't think its inherently people that play games hate women and minorities. But more that if you give a voice and anonymity to a large swath of people, there are people that will use it to try and upset you, unfortunately that stuff is the easiest way to upset and effect someone through the internet.
Go on any non-game related Chat room or discussion and it's equally as nuts. I mean in general I avoid Off-Topic sections of forums because they tend to be the MOST toxic and aggressive.
Somehow I feel like there's a world of difference between "walking on eggshells" and "not creating a series of virtual snuff porn videos while bragging about how you triggered the sjws and now are gonna RP as hitler."
Ask Alex Jones how that worked out for him.
