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Motherboard: RDR2 Players Are Excited to Attack and Kill Feminists in the Game [update: re-instated]
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Are you agreeing with me or misinterpreting what I said? I am not sure.
User Banned (Permanent): Inflammatory false equivalences (comparing feminists to the KKK). Account still in junior phase.
Killing feminists in a fucking video game where you can potentially kill everyone is bad, but watching KKK members burn to death or actively killing people with different opinions in gruesome ways is tolerated or even hilarious. Okay, gotcha. Not hypocritical at all.
I don't think it's any more hyperbolic than saying this guy was promoting violence with his videos. When he also apparently had videos doing the same things to racists in the game. Don't like the titles he used, but don't think he should have his whole channel banned.
They're still not real people.
Not the same, this game wasn't made to specifically kill feminist characters. It's an open world sandbox wherein you can choose to kill or not kill anybody in it. And, although I don't like these videos where he targets a feminist character (for seemingly because of who she is), even that isn't as bad as making a Nazi simulator. Come on.
That's extrapolating quite a lot, considering he was also doing (or going to do) similar videos towards racists. This is some Jack Thompson BS, GTA/Mortal Kombat gonna poison the kids and make them act out these violent acts kinda shit.
I apologize if you think I was trying to sound smart or above it all or anything like that. I just dislike Youtube's actions, the guy's videos, and the assertions that those videos are promoting real violence against real people.
I mean, it's just a rephrasing of "It's just a game", nothing new here.
SO YEA ABOUT THAT POLICY
Still waiting on that response about how youtube is unprofessional by upholding this policy. And yea let's reassess the comments portion of the article that you didn't read:
Hmmmm.
Waiting for your response, surely you'll deliver.
The moron broke Youtube TOS, you don't need to keep stanning him.
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You really equating the killing of peaceful protesters (which most people aren't even fucking arguing about in the first place) to literal white nationalist terrorists? Even fucking Rockstar acknowledges this by giving the player honor for killing the KKK. This is probably the worst take in this thread, fuck outta here with this shit.
The issue isn't killing feminists. The issue is making multiple videos centered around killing said virtual feminists to pander to the anti-SJW/alt-right crowd and getting punished by YouTube as a result.
Are you fucking comparing a feminist to a fucking klan/nazi? Get the fuck out of here.
For lack of a better term, the game absolutely does show "both sides". But it also makes it clear that one side was in the right while the other wasn't. Just as it does with racism.
There's one moment in Chapter 3 where you're going to take on some racists and you're riding with one of your gang members, a man named Lenny who is black. In the ride there he talks about about various types of racism. And now it might just be a glance and a certain remark. Arthur chimes in and says something like, "I have noticed anything like that", to which Lenny says, "No offense, but you wouldn't.". Arthur actually apologizes to him for it. This is actually something that's talked about today. White people not necessarily being able to notice the type of racism that minorities deal with on a daily basis. And the game acknowledges that. But to the point of women in the game, there's a conversation that i've referenced a number of times in other threads, but I think it shows in combination with everything else where the game stands. In your camp two women who're part of your game have this conversation
Abigail: You look sad.
Tilly: I'm not...just bored. It's just that I used to dream a lot.
Abigail: We all did. Then we became women. Saw just how little the world values us.
In another conversation several of the women in your gang are talking about their treatment in the world and they ask Arthur where he falls on it. He says that he doesn't think there's really a difference between men and women. Both have a bad people in it, but for some are amazing and you'll be willing to lay your life down for them if they allow it.
Abigail: You look sad.
Tilly: I'm not...just bored. It's just that I used to dream a lot.
Abigail: We all did. Then we became women. Saw just how little the world values us.
In another conversation several of the women in your gang are talking about their treatment in the world and they ask Arthur where he falls on it. He says that he doesn't think there's really a difference between men and women. Both have a bad people in it, but for some are amazing and you'll be willing to lay your life down for them if they allow it.
I don't disagree there. I was just addressing the idea that Rockstar was neutral on the issue. The rest is just a result of the open-world nature of the game. You can kill anyone that isn't critical to the story path. But when you're killing someone like that woman it says far more about you than it does about Rockstar. As i'm certain that you'd receive negative honor if you did that while.
I see what you did there, and if you:
a) imply that assaulting these "types" of women is okay because they are not productive members of society or some bullshit
b) imply the devs feel the same by allowing this action
Then buddy. You'll have a fun time here.
Try not to be so intellectually inept and/or lacking in critical thinking ability. Posting a video in which you're killing people randomly in a game like RDR2, is not the same as having an entire video series dedicated to specifically targeting only female suffragettes.
Also, that you're actually trying to draw an equivalence with suffragettes (women who protested to achieve women's voting rights) and the KKK (a vile, evil, murderous, racist organisation that lynched, raped, killed, tortured, harassed and abused countless innocent Black people) is fucking astonishing.
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Ah shit, something's really off today. Oh I figured it out. Gotta turn off gamerbrain.exe. There we go, now restart criticalthinkingskils.exe:
Oof there we go.
SolidSnakex As of right now, I am reluctant to look at that spoiler beyond reading "chapter 3". I am sorry. Hopefully, I can come back to your post after I have dealt with chapter 3.
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You joke, but I can assure you a lot of men think feminism is a hate group: That they hate men. I know because I've heard that bs argument before
Waiting for your educated response on the YouTube ToS that people keep referring you to!
Is it really the algorithm working incorrectly if the video is getting a lot of views among people that youtube flags as "gamers" ?
Its the community that continues to disappoint not the algorithm.
The two aren't the same, like at all.
Feminists aren't a violent hate group, the KKK are.
So is there any other youtuber let's player that does 1-6hour long walkthroughs with no commentary? Since hes the only other let's player I watched and he's gone for the time being, tetraninja takes 50yrs to upload 24min videos, and hcbailly only does retro games? I feel like the 3 month ban was appropriate, but not so much as the complete termination.
the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: "theres actually zero difference between good & bad things. you imbecile. you fucking moron"
Nope what? Nice drive by
Explain?
Why are comparisons between a marginalized group and a hate group happening.
How am I shitting on feminist? And please show me where I defended the guy...
I don't think it's smart to make guys like this into martyrs.
I've been active in this thread, Nope is simply the level of engagement your claim was worth.
Hey, listen here you stupid cunt.
First: do not compare the KKK with feminism.
Second: it's the fucking message behind the videos. You'know.. the intention. That's why he got banned.
When you actually are hiding your agenda behind "it's a video game" you deserve to be called out and banned.
If I get the ban, so be it. But I'm tired of shitlords like this.
It's called "venting", dude. They're not trying to disrupt anything.
