• Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.

Part VIIs In Classic RPG Franchises

  • Final Fantasy VII

    Votes: 126 65.6%
  • Dragon Quest VII

    Votes: 13 6.8%
  • Ultima VII

    Votes: 35 18.2%
  • Wizardry VII

    Votes: 7 3.6%
  • Might and Magic VII

    Votes: 11 5.7%

  • Total voters
    192
Status
Not open for further replies.

RedSwirl

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,049
Full disclosure: I have played none of the games listed here.

I'm listing them and making this thread because I understand all of them are highly-acclaimed games (I don't know as much about M&M7), and almost all of them are among the most highly-acclaimed games in their respective series. The seventh entries in FF, DQ, and M&M also all came out in the late 90's where as the seventh entries in Ultima and Wizardry came out in 1992. So maybe this is kind of a contest between the best of each classic RPG franchise.

Based on what I know:

  • Final Fantasy VII basically popularized RPGs to a whole new audience and sort of introduced the cinematic high-budget RPG.
  • Dragon Quest VII was the first PlayStation DQ and came out around the same time as FFVII.
  • Ultima VII today is still known for its complex NPC AI system that I'm told rivals that of games like Skyrim and goes beyond most RPGs made since.
  • Wizardry VII is supposedly the last "classic-style" Wizardry. I think that one game everyone says is "Cleve's game" was supposed to be a spiritual successor to W7, but I might be mixing it up with something else.
  • I think Might & Magic VII is one of the most popular M&M games.
 

Piscus

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,763
These threads.... these threads....
kurtz_thth_anr_101220_460w.jpg
 

Skittzo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
41,037
Oh god DQ7 and MM7 are two of my favorite games of all time so that was a tough call. But I went MM7.

I have a feeling nobody else in this thread will share my dilemma.
 

DJ_Lae

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,857
Edmonton
Ultima VII was endlessly replayable as a kid and offered the freedom to do pretty much anything.

Final Fantasy VII is fine (great music and mostly great characters) but it's no Ultima.

Too bad Ultima completely shit the bed after Serpent's Isle.
 

Adnor

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,957
Ultima VII is the best, and one of the most important games, of all time.
 

LastCupOfBullets

Alt account
Banned
Aug 7, 2018
575
I just wanted to pop in and say that I like the idea of this thread very much, lol.

Good job, OP :)

DQVII is great! FFVII is ok too.
 
Oct 27, 2017
4,497
"Compare these randomly put together games that happened to be the 7th entries in known RPG series"

Yeah I don't wanna go down that road. FF7's fandom alone overpowers anything else so it's easy to see where this will go.

I will however say that DQ7 is one of the best and probably most underrated DQ's out there. The 3ds version makes it much friendlier to people put off by the original one. Part of its charm is its leisurely-paced worldbuilding.
 

LaydinJinn

Member
Oct 31, 2017
339
Ultima 7 is still the best RPG experience I have ever played, and I grew up playing and loving JRPGs.
 

MP!

Member
Oct 30, 2017
5,198
Las Vegas
certainly not DQ VII...
I think this is slightly skewed as I'm betting not many people have played any other games on the list beside FF7 ... at least I haven't haha
 
Last edited:

Durante

Dark Souls Man
Member
Oct 24, 2017
5,074
Many of these games are good, but Ultima 7 is easily the most groundbreaking of them all.

It introduced systems and ideas that wouldn't really be picked up broadly until decades later.
 

Anustart

9 Million Scovilles
Avenger
Nov 12, 2017
9,037
As much as I love dq 7 and ff7 being pretty low on my ff list, it's still the king. Had a blast with that game
 
Oct 31, 2017
8,466
Easily Ultima VII for me, but I have to admit Might & Magic VII had me evaluating the option for a second.
There were few things in the game I never really liked (like the real-time spam-friendly combat), but the highs were absolutely stellar.

Never really liked FF VII despise finishing it and I never played DQ VII but my experience with DQ VIII was basically a narcotic in software form.
 
Nov 9, 2017
3,777
Final Fantasy VII for me. I was my fifth ever JRPG behind Shining Force 2, Final Fantasy VI, Chrono Trigger, and Wild Arms, but it was my favorite of the bunch.
 

Corine

Member
Nov 8, 2017
870
Ultima VII easily :) Installed on my PC as I write this. All great games though. Ultima VII is just on a whole other level in my opinion.
 
Last edited:

ultra7k

Member
Oct 27, 2017
978
Ultima 7 all the way. It was one of the few games where if you thought you could do it, you pretty much could. If you could bake bread and forge weapons, why couldn't you rob the mint?

You do have the kill the mint master temporarily though.
1. Loot the key, and run into the mint.
2. Start pillaging, thankfully the inventory screen pauses the game so you can open all the drawers around you.
3. Cast 'Help' (Kal Lor IIRC?) - should wipe the aggro
4. Make your way back to the mint, and drag the body back to Lord British who can Resurrect the mint lady.
5. She will make her way back to the mint and you can exchange your ill gotten gains for big $.
 

The Emperor

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,790
One of them is possibly the best game ever

So FFVII

Hilarious that this thread skipped a FFV vs DQV and FFVI bs DQVI iteration

A square enix FF remake skipping V and VI moment
 

jb1234

Very low key
Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,224
You can tell how many people haven't played Ultima VII in this poll. It was massively ahead of its time and smacks the competition here.
 

Aeana

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,918
Please make "Resident Evil 2 vs Uncharted 2 vs Final Fantasy 2 vs Gradius 2 vs Sonic 2 vs Red Dead Redemption 2 vs Ultima 2 vs Star Fox 2" next



kill this worthless series of threads
 
Status
Not open for further replies.