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Gold Arsene

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
30,757
Good riddance. This game needs to be forgotten and I'm happy tabata won't be able to attach his garbage to the FF brand name again.

Lovely. Celebrating a man who delivered a game having gone through an infamously rocky development to good reviews and great sales getting fired.

Actually fuck that even, just plain celebrating the fact that a man lost his job because he dared make a video game you don't like is next level petty shit.
 

Imran

Member
Oct 24, 2017
6,543
What does Windows version production being cancelled means? Isn't that game...out?
 

MegaXZero

One Winged Slayer
Member
Jun 21, 2018
5,079
He saved nothing by creating the lowest rated mainline game and an incomplete mess at launch, it just damaged the IP reputation even more also Final Fantasy IP is strong enough to sell these numbers, check the older games.

How many copies sold doesn't mean it's quality game.
Yeah sorry you are just wrong. What's better? No game and shit tons of money in the hole or about second best selling FF? Saying the name alone sold that much is just bullshit, especially when 13 exists.
 

sredgrin

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
12,276
See, I can see a world in which he resigned (or was forced to) and also one in which they cancelled the DLC.

I just cannot believe they streamed this. It's mind boggling.
 

ze_

Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,928
This is one of the most shocking things I've seen a company do. A special livestream for this?! I understand that they have other announcements (I see they're announcing more multimedia projects), but this is ludicrous.
 

Radline

Member
Oct 28, 2017
919
Wow, that is immensely shocking. It's odd that they chose to just tell all of this as a stream. A bit of a backhand to those who were expecting DLC details.
 

Mechaplum

Enlightened
Member
Oct 26, 2017
18,789
JP
That seems to be part of the problem. S-E needs a good chunk of players to purchase the DLCs as they come out. If everyone is just waiting, then all they see is a lack of interest and this is the end result.

Guilty here, am waiting for the complete-complete edition, but it looks like that's not going to happen.
 

Enthus

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,579
I remember hoping this stream would announce a New Game + mode that introduced all the new DLC into the main story. RIP
 

sredgrin

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
12,276
The Windows thing probably means some of the modding tools. IIRC they were releasing them piece meal, so we were supposed to get more in depth ones I think for more stuff.
 

Secretofmateria

User requested ban
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,424
Oh man, I hope he lands on his feet he is a talented director, i hope the losses dont mean that 7 remake will become more of a fantasy than reality
 

Deleted member 32561

User requested account closure
Banned
Nov 11, 2017
3,831
Actually, wait, was Tabata the guy who decided on no women in the party and gave the BS reason of "well, you can't have a girl in a group of friends made up of guys and have them act natural"? Because if so... no real loss for S-E, then, lol. I hope he grows as a person.
 

JCal

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,334
Los Alfheim
Tabata couldn't even announce the news himself? They totally axed him. I wasn't even going to watch this, but I got a Wario tweet last minute. What a shitshow.
 

JEH

Prophet of Truth
Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,195
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LightKiosk

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
11,479
Sony should pick him up or fund his new game, seems like a no brainer after what him and his team did for FFXV in such a short amount of time.
 

Gestault

Member
Oct 26, 2017
13,352
Damnit, I liked it better when the joke was the game that no one thought would ever come out ended up being the game that never stops coming out.
 

Vito

One Winged Slayer - Formerly Undead Fantasy
Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,038
Maybe we can finally have a complete edition.

Sucks for Tabata though.
 

Inuhanyou

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
14,214
New Jersey
Actually, wait, was Tabata the guy who decided on no women in the party and gave the BS reason of "well, you can't have a girl in a group of friends made up of guys and have them act natural"? Because if so... no real loss for S-E, then, lol

He was on stream at that point yes, but he wasnt the one who made the comment, even if it was garbage.
 

BassForever

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
29,913
CT
He saved nothing by creating the lowest rated mainline game and an incomplete mess at launch, it just damaged the IP reputation even more also Final Fantasy IP is strong enough to sell these numbers, check the older games.

How many copies sold doesn't mean it's quality game.

It's one of the best selling games in the series and has gotten a lot of extra dlc for something nobody liked. And how many copies it sold is an indicator of how popular it is and the fact it continues to sell means SE will attempt to emulate it's success
 

Lothars

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
9,765
He saved nothing by creating the lowest rated mainline game and an incomplete mess at launch, it just damaged the IP reputation even more also Final Fantasy IP is strong enough to sell these numbers, check the older games.

How many copies sold doesn't mean it's quality game.
You are wrong just straight up, it didn't do any damage to the final fantasy name. Anyone saying that has no clue what they are talking about.
 

Mark H

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,679
So the extraordinary loss SE posted must have been all these DLC cancellation.
Now that Tabata has left, I really question the functionality Luminous Production is going to provide.
 

Chasing

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
10,669
Nah, sounds like he quit and is going to start his own company.
I know several directors in the Japanese game industry who did this. It's common.

When you put it together with the previous extraordinary loss on the studio due to refocusing, SE definitely wasn't seeing eye to eye with him on whatever they were doing.
 

Suzushiiro

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
515
Brooklyn, NY
While I hope the next main line FF won't be such a crazy hot mess, in a weird way I kinda liked the "throw shit at the wall and see what sticks" approach they took with FFXV's DLC/spinoffs/side material.
Did Tabata leave because of the losses? Was the game too expensive so they cancelled it and thus the major losses generated from the studio? What's going to happen to said studio? So many dam questions!
Seems like the new game is still on, they just decided to transition the team from FFXV to the new game more quickly, probably because they didn't expect the DLC to sell well enough.

Not sure if Tabata was politely asked to leave as a part of this transition or if he had decided he was going to move on when FFXV's DLC wrapped no matter what. Could be either one.