• Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
  • We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.

wwm0nkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,576
I've posted about it on the Xenia OT, but there have been a lot improvements to all of the Halo titles recently, but Halo 3 (and ODST)'s current state is pretty amazing considering where this emulator was 2 months ago. There are no enhancements, but that will come later down the line as the emulator matures. Most framedrops you see in Xenia are due to shaders being cached too, it levels back out to 30FPS pretty fast.




For those wondering about other Halo titles.

ODST:


Reach(My video)


Halo 4 is pretty unstable right now, but it is working after a few hacky methods and installing the TU.
 

Pez

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,248
This is cool, but I don't see the point after 4k/60fps MCC collection.

Maybe people can mod in a halo 1 pistol?
 

Serious Sam

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,354
"almost perfectly playable" and then proceeds to show gameplay with half of visual effects missing or rendered incorrectly.
 
OP
OP
wwm0nkey

wwm0nkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,576
"almost perfectly playable" and then proceeds to show gameplay with half of visual effects missing or rendered incorrectly.
Keep in mind, this is what it looked like in August



triangle (the main dev on the DX12 branch) has been sick this week so he hasn't been able to fix the effects, but he's been pretty much able to fix pretty major issues within a week or 2 and iirc, the effects glitch is the one he is working on now.
 

Deleted member 18742

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,834
Is the online component emulated or is that a long ways off? It's absolutely crazy how far the 360 and PS3 emulation have gotten. Wouldnt have thought games could be in playable states this soon
 
OP
OP
wwm0nkey

wwm0nkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,576
Is the online component emulated or is that a long ways off? It's absolutely crazy how far the 360 and PS3 emulation have gotten. Wouldnt have thought games could be in playable states this soon
That's a ways off, though me and a friend played splitscreen Reach over parsec and it worked well enough hahaha.

I think the plan is to get LAN working at least, don't know if there is any XBL emulation planed
 

Alvis

Saw the truth behind the copied door
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,231
Spain
I mean that is the point of getting an Xbox One. But don't let me stop you from claiming Xbox has no games and thus you don't need one.
Ah yes, that is exactly what I said. Truly.

No, I don't need or want an Xbox One. But it's you who is bringing that up, not me. And I did not claim it has no games or anything you're trying to put in my mouth lol
 
OP
OP
wwm0nkey

wwm0nkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,576
Also I would like to mention that all you need to dump 360 games is a USB. No modded 360 needed
 

xabbott

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,065
Florida
Getting there, pretty good but with MS putting its future stuff on PC and how good the One X stuff has been (Halo 3 (360) has an X patch and MCC's version runs at 60) makes it less exciting. It will probably have some insane mods one day though. Are original Xbox titles playable yet via emulation? Last time I checked in on that progress had slowed big time.
 

astro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
56,969
I mean that is the point of getting an Xbox One. But don't let me stop you from claiming Xbox has no games and thus you don't need one.

It's impressive how you made a simple fact regarding desire for this emulation into a righteous stand against hypothetical console wars.
 

Sinatar

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,684
This is cool, but I don't see the point after 4k/60fps MCC collection.

Why is it every time emulation is discussed around here stupid takes like this crop up? What if you want to play Halo 10 years from now and your XB1 is dead? 20 years from now? What if Microsoft shuts down their game studio and no more Halo ports are ever released?

This isn't about playing Halo this very second.
 
OP
OP
wwm0nkey

wwm0nkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,576
Getting there, pretty good but with MS putting its future stuff on PC and how good the One X stuff has been (Halo 3 (360) has an X patch and MCC's version runs at 60) makes it less exciting. It will probably have some insane mods one day though. Are original Xbox titles playable yet via emulation? Last time I checked in on that progress had slowed big time.
CXBX is also making good progress, I can play JSRF in 4k and it's glorious
 

angel

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,333
...what if I don't have an Xbox One

maxresdefault.jpg
 

funky

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,527
I always saw it as a race to see if the community could get a 360 emulator running well before MS flipped the switch and ported their console emu and sold 360 games on the windows store. And here we are.
 
Last edited:

Stinkles

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
20,459
Isn't this pirating? I'm confused.

Depends on how it's done and if or how it's released. I'm opining generally not about this specific instance - if he or she is emulating a copy of the game that wasn't legally acquired then that would be a single instance. If it were a network of folks working on a single copy of the game that was distributed in the emulator then that would be one instance per user.

Emulation itself is not piracy at all and only illegal if the material was compromised in a fashion that is illegal - and that varies from place to place.

I am a big fan of aspects of the Emulation scene and you don't have to touch pirated roms to play a huge amount of new public domain games for moribund systems like ColecoVision and vectrex.

If you have MAME and every commercial ROM in christendom then that's piracy unless you happen to own ten thousand arcade machines.

The morality is tricky because a lot of pirated emulated games are still current retail products and that's pretty black and white piracy. Where it gets gray is abandonware and unreleased material that was once or currently owned by someone.

I would LOVE a subscription based ROM and emulation service so I could play literally thousands and thousands of antique games without breaking the law or in some cases ripping off folks who could still be earning a living from their art.

ROMflix or ROMify.

It could work like music licensing and while individual amounts would be trifling the scene could go mainstream and make worthwhile money for the IP holders.

The only defacto negative about emulation as an art and science is that it can create a wild west scenario and occasionally make regular piracy easier by cracking copyright protections in the pursuit of improving the emulation veracity.
 
OP
OP
wwm0nkey

wwm0nkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,576
Depends on how it's done and if or how it's released. I'm opining generally not about this specific instance - if he or she is emulating a copy of the game that wasn't legally acquired then that would be a single instance. If it were a network of folks working on a single copy of the game that was distributed in the emulator then that would be one instance per user.

Emulation itself is not piracy at all and only illegal if the material was compromised in a fashion that is illegal - and that varies from place to place.

I am a big fan of aspects of the Emulation scene and you don't have to touch pirated roms to play a huge amount of new public domain games for moribund systems like ColecoVision and vectrex.

If you have MAME and every commercial ROM in christendom then that's piracy unless you happen to own ten thousand arcade machines.

The morality is tricky because a lot of pirated emulated games are still current retail products and that's pretty black and white piracy. Where it gets gray is abandonware and unreleased material that was once or currently owned by someone.

I would LOVE a subscription based ROM and emulation service so I could play literally thousands and thousands of antique games without breaking the law or in some cases ripping off folks who could still be earning a living from their art.

ROMflix or ROMify.

It could work like music licensing and while individual amounts would be trifling the scene could go mainstream and make worthwhile money for the IP holders.

The only defacto negative about emulation as an art and science is that it can create a wild west scenario and occasionally make regular piracy easier by cracking copyright protections in the pursuit of improving the emulation veracity.
Re your ROM sub idea. Kinda like Nintendo Online or Gamepass but everything at once would be really cool!

Also thankfully Xenia bans any talk of piracy, they are against it since it's easy to ripr your own owned games.
 

ASaiyan

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,228
Progress on Xenia and Cxbx in the past few months has been incredible to see. Great work and keep it up devs.
 

Stinkles

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
20,459
Re your ROM sub idea. Kinda like Nintendo Online or Gamepass but everything at once would be really cool!

Also thankfully Xenia bans any talk of piracy, they are against it since it's easy to ripr your own owned games.


I used the music industry model as a good comparison because it has a well understood networked business model that is viable at micro scale transactions and has almost identical legal issues. Games are simpler because 99% are not tangled in guild or union rights. I actually wrote a simple business model and a software proposal that could be built in my spare time - but it probably doesn't contain anything that the MAME scene hasn't considered. It could be scaled easily to enable "streamed" rims (they're tiny usually so really they'd just be dumped as Temps into your App's cache but expire when not connected. More money could be generated by enabling purchase at say a buck ninety nine for full ownership of Pooyan and three bucks for Space Harrier. Arbitrary numbers but you get the idea.

Existing emulated licensed stuff like Namco or Capcom collections could be grayed out, cross linked or more usefully just signed on with suggested pricing from those IP holders that reflects or works with the other retail content they're offering.

Some content is wrapped up in estate disputes or abandoned so it wouldn't be 100% comprehensive. But 99% ain't bad.