BREXIT MAFIA PHASE 2 | Border-Line Insanity!

cabot · Nov 16, 2018

The cabinet meeting continues....

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Extreme Tactician has been eliminated!

United We Stand.

Stop talking us down.

Brexit Britain is a Global Britain.

Except you. You're not welcome. Or you. Yes, even you.

Welcome to Brexit Phase 2 Mafia!

You are David Davis.

A cheeky schoolboy that is somehow also quite old aged, you've been tasked with heading up the Brexit department. You were almost as batty as the extremists in the beginning, but reality seems to have kicked in and you sort of get the tremendous repercussions Brexit will bring.

Keep Calm And Carry On!

You are aligned with SCUM.

You are a Goon. Every Night, you can target a player and kill them.

The team kill command is KILL: <playername>.

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The SCUM thread is redacted.

You win when your team hold 50% of the vote at the start of a Day.

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DAY 2 BEGINS:

Night Actions will be locked 3 hours before deadline.

cabot · Nov 18, 2018

ACTIONS ARE NOW LOCKED

cabot · Nov 18, 2018

BREAKING NEWS: NICOLA STURGEON GONE MISSING

SNP Leader and First Minister of Scotland has disappeared.

Last seen lambasting our glorious English overlords from comfort of Scottish Parliament.

No deed goes unpunished.

Fantomas has been eliminated!

United We Stand.

Stop talking us down.

Brexit Britain is a Global Britain.

Except you. You're not welcome. Or you. Yes, even you.

Welcome to Brexit Phase 2 Mafia!

You are Nicola Sturgeon.

You're the leader of the SNP. You hoped the nation would see reason and not vote to cut their nose off to spite their face. Instead, here we are. Your new challenge is to forward the independence cause whilst not appearing too opportunistic, maybe getting a Soft Brexit in the process.

You are aligned with TOWN.

You are an Ordinary Town. You have no powers other than voting.

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19 players remain.

DAY 2 BEGINS

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Majority is 10

DAY 2 ENDS:

nin · Nov 18, 2018

Pre typed post.

Get rid of Donna and Stuart.

They reek of scum.

Get rid of cs because he just can't handle me.
Would get rid of the two before him just because he is kinda a known entity ( not really thinking before saying anything) while the others have a higher chance of being actual scum.

nin · Nov 18, 2018

R.I.P
FANTOMAS.
I will avenge you

nin · Nov 18, 2018

Since Fantomas is dead I will probably take the role as town leader then.

The Bear · Nov 18, 2018

I really apologise for not being around during friday at all :x. The game started at really unfortunate time of the week for me. I just got back home from my weekend hangout, so I haven't had time to read past 10 pages or so yet.

Stuart444 · Nov 18, 2018

So... I gave the benefit of doubt to ET in regards to his not scum reading anyone. I've given the benefit of the doubt on D1 to people several times.

And each time, it ends up being scum.

this was me after ETs flip:

Stuart444 · Nov 18, 2018

RIP Fantomas :(

nin · Nov 18, 2018

Since this got kinda lost in the end of the last day phase. I lt seemed that ET tried to get some interaction going and empressdonna was trying to help her fellow scum mate out. Which failed miserably as i called her out on it.

This is my hunch for today and I will now go to bed, but before that

Vote: Empressdonna

Stuart444 · Nov 18, 2018

I still think GP is scummy. Looking at his posts where he mentions Nin, me and ET. He then dropped ET and never really said why, just that the reasons for him was the usual D1 stuff.

GP D1 was basically full on coasting, that plus his dropping of ET after mentioning him early on makes me think GP is scum.

EzekelRAGE · Nov 18, 2018

Welp. Rip fantomas. Me and fant were invited to a chat last night.

Stuart444 · Nov 18, 2018

Vote: Giant Panda

Alexem · Nov 18, 2018

First of all - great to have a scum hit on D1!... Not so great to have lost Fantomas, though, he was putting in a lot of good work.

To have taken out a mafia player - an inactive goon, at that - I don't think it's unreasonable to expect some bussing there. I'm working with the idea that there might be three scum left, so I would imagine that one or possibly two of the ET voters were in on that. I'm not putting any more wine in front of me just yet, though.

EzekelRAGE · Nov 18, 2018

This is my read list that I shared with fant

Redid my readlist. made null section a lil more clearer with whether its slight read or null. put gir in null.added a few small comments to some ppl.

Stuart/ET/Bdubs didnt mind the filler post chat when game started.

Scum (Ordered from most to least)

Stuart - My strongest scum read.
-- Does a lot of "preemptive" explaining for actions to get ahead of possible criticism/scum reading.
-----#538 Contradicts this stance above. Feels Fady caught him off guard with the question. Now he wants to see ppl's response?
--Take a hard line on GP and says its coasting, same could be said about ET #889
--Afraid to be looked at as scummy for unvoting. #305.
--Dismisses a lot of ppls scum reads on him with "it's how I play"
--Questions Gorlak's push on Bdubs #455(Noted because I scumread Dubs)
--Defensive post #526. He cleans up defensiveness of it 2 posts later.
-- Various posts that can be argued looks like he is trying to save ET.

Sophia - Did call ET out on the filler talk. But also ended up switching her vote off ET and onto CS to tie it EOD.
- I dont like how she switched off of ET to vote CS. Seems she reluctantly voted ET in the first place
-Says she will switch back to ET only if it is tied and only 15min before deadline #981
-Questions Gorlak on why he is pressuring Bdubs #421

Bdubs - Response to Slip theory was odd/overreaction. Especially bringing up a prior game.
--Says I have to obviously be scum. #440 But doesnt vote me.
- B-Dubs seems to be defending ET against ppl saying ET is doing busywork. # 391

Melonrabbit - Seems fluffy. Voted for Cs when she mentions she wouldnt. Mentions she would vote ET
--#880

Kalor- his mistake vote for coolest.
--How I read that - scum kalor
Seems et and cs were close. Looked like he prepared a vote post for cs in case et could be saved. His reasoning for not voting grizzly could be applied to et. He voted et an hour b4 deadline with a weak/parrotish explanation. Reads like possible bussing.
Also when he took back his vote from cs, he said he "didn't want to vote him yet." 30 minutes left in the day. When did he plan to vote him?
-- Manages to pop in right when Fant mentions I could be a PR.
-- Vote slip?
-- Seems to be background/coaster

Null/Slight reads
Empressdonna (Slight Scum Lean) - Low posting. Never gave promised read list. Misrepresented my interactions. Seems to be background.

Absoultbro (Null) - Not much to really go on
- Voted CS an hour before deadline

Gorlak (Nullish) - Rereading the Bdubs thing. I understand what he meant now. He saw how Bdubs seemingly cracked and decided applying more pressure with votes would yield results. The way he worded it just threw me off. Especially since I didnt see his vote and I had skimmed that post as well. That leads me to understanding him hounding me about discussing my read of the situation a bit more. Which moves him to nullish for me.

Alexem (Slight Scum Lean) - Seems meh. Seems on the fence and a couple of his posts feel parroty. Slight scum
--Sorta defends stuart #590
-- Hesitate to vote ET, 2 hours before deadline #930

Turmoil (Slight town lean) - I like the posts.

Gir (Null)- #274 Him drawing attention to his post count and comparing it to his scum coasting previously.
--Did call ET out on fluff, but could be argued he followed Fant/Sophia in doing so.

Grizzly (Slight Scumlean)- #356 Analysis of my shrug - seems like busywork, bear was busy during day phase.So giving him a little leeway.
-After Gir calls him out on his AB post/vote being busywork, Grizzly easily backs off of AB after a posts AB didnt really say much. #368
-Grizzly views ET votes/voters as useless. Says ET's fluffiness is just as comparable to others # 367

Town (Ordered from most to least)
Nin - I like how he went about things. Gambit was w/e. Pushed ppl for opinions and to be apart of discussions.
- Wanted more game talk earlier from stu/et/dubs
- Was one of first for ET

Fantomas Felt townie to me with how he handled the day. Pushing for info, leading discussion etc. Only problem was the PR discussion in regards to my posting. Currently dont see that has a big issue.Really like his engagement/reads in the night chat.

Faddy - Slight town lean. Posting is odd though. Seems to lack presence but has some posts I like.
- I do like how faddy called out Stu #523
-- Implies that since im not tunneling, I may be scum #537. Doesnt reply when i ask what he means.

nin · Nov 18, 2018

Stuart444 said:
I still think GP is scummy. Looking at his posts where he mentions Nin, me and ET. He then dropped ET and never really said why, just that the reasons for him was the usual D1 stuff.

GP D1 was basically full on coasting, that plus his dropping of ET after mentioning him early on makes me think GP is scum.

Good hunch on the GP thing. He still found me scummy without giving a "good" reason. Came lttp and tried to get onto that Nin train. Realized he was too late but stuck to it like Stuart tried to argue that he was better looking than me.
Big fail ofc
Big fail

nin · Nov 18, 2018

My eyes EzekelRAGE they burn

empressdonna · Nov 18, 2018

nin said:
Since this got kinda lost in the end of the last day phase. I lt seemed that ET tried to get some interaction going and empressdonna was trying to help her fellow scum mate out. Which failed miserably as i called her out on it.

This is my hunch for today and I will now go to bed, but before that

Vote: Empressdonna

I assume you mean the post I picked up on that everyone didn't about why Zeke was *shrugging*?

From my perspective, it was weird that it was glossed over though I certainly feel that CS's end of day stuff stands out a lot more than that now.

EzekelRAGE · Nov 18, 2018

Will work on getting fants thoughts together. Not allowed to copy and paste anything outside of our own read list. So have to go thru paraphrasing.

nin · Nov 18, 2018

Would either go empressdonna or Stuart444 while empress is the lazy scum player Stuart wants to get that activity crown as scum.

Bad move.
I smelled that

Faddy · Nov 18, 2018

Cool to get scum on day 1.

My initial reaction was that stuart looks pretty bad for defending ET so much but I had to hold myself back from snapping onto coolest. Probably means he is town, or at least not scum.

nin · Nov 18, 2018

EzekelRAGE said:
Will work on getting fants thoughts together. Not allowed to copy and paste anything outside of our own read list. So have to go thru paraphrasing.

Do it as a peom please Fantomas would be pleased.

Faddy · Nov 18, 2018

nin said:
Since Fantomas is dead I will probably take the role as town leader then.

Excuse me town leader nin, but you did not vote for scum yesterday.

Android Sophia · Nov 18, 2018

Grizzly said:
I really apologise for not being around during friday at all :x. The game started at really unfortunate time of the week for me. I just got back home from my weekend hangout, so I haven't had time to read past 10 pages or so yet.

Would like you hear your reads once you've gotten caught up, especially considering how we avoided lynching you last day phase.

EzekelRAGE said:
Welp. Rip fantomas. Me and fant were invited to a chat last night.

What's this about now?

empressdonna · Nov 18, 2018

EzekelRAGE said:
Empressdonna (Slight Scum Lean) - Low posting. Never gave promised read list. Misrepresented my interactions. Seems to be background.

I explained this.

I wasn't feeling well after dinner, in fact I was feeling worse than I was earlier in the day when I stressed that I wasn't well. Plus, the forum was messing up, posts not being able to be sent + search function not working till before dinner came + posts missing from people's profiles = me irl freaking out over having enough time to manually sift through all the pages to do a read list like I wanted to.

I get that I promised it and I wanted to. I honestly thought I'd have time after dinner :(.

Stuart444 · Nov 18, 2018

nin said:
Would either go empressdonna or Stuart444 while empress is the lazy scum player Stuart wants to get that activity crown as scum.

Bad move.
I smelled that

Lol ok.

Kinda wish scum killed me since I know people were going to go for me today. :/ guess they keeping me around so they can push me easier. (aka if I get lynched, pay attention to who pushes for me)

nin · Nov 18, 2018

Faddy said:
Cool to get scum on day 1.

My initial reaction was that stuart looks pretty bad for defending ET so much but I had to hold myself back from snapping onto coolest. Probably means he is town, or at least not scum.

Coolest is probably dumb town or lazy neutral.
He tried to copy me and failed.

Stuart on the other hand is likely going to get lynched. Sorry fam there is no saving you. You defending him wsd just bad look.

I know we could argue that scum would never try to defend ET that late into the day.

But we can take a misslsynch.

Going to bed now.
Check out the interaction between empress and ET. I still think that empress tried to get ET into the game and failing.

I smell something

EzekelRAGE · Nov 18, 2018

Sophia said:
Would like you hear your reads once you've gotten caught up, especially considering how we avoided lynching you last day phase.

What's this about now?

We were both invited to a chat during the night phase.

Stuart444 · Nov 18, 2018

Faddy said:
Cool to get scum on day 1.

My initial reaction was that stuart looks pretty bad for defending ET so much but I had to hold myself back from snapping onto coolest. Probably means he is town, or at least not scum.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt a lot. I've done that multiple times as town.

It usually bites me in the arse like it did yet again.

Note to self: don't do that again D1.

Android Sophia · Nov 18, 2018

Stuart444 said:
Lol ok.

Kinda wish scum killed me since I know people were going to go for me today. :/ guess they keeping me around so they can push me easier. (aka if I get lynched, pay attention to who pushes for me)

On the flipside, that means you have one more fighting chance to out scum. So why not take it?

Alexem · Nov 18, 2018

One thing that did stick in my mind was Kalor's switching between Spot and ET:

Kalor said:
Wait, I didn't mean to vote for him yet. I was about to but then changed my mind, forgotting to delete it.

Vote: Extreme Tactician

Kalor, any particular reason why you didn't go back to Spot in the end?

nin · Nov 18, 2018

Stuart444 said:
Lol ok.

Kinda wish scum killed me since I know people were going to go for me today. :/ guess they keeping me around so they can push me easier. (aka if I get lynched, pay attention to who pushes for me)

I mean that is a likely scenario, you get all the heat for defending ET, scum does not have to do much since me and Faddy will be the vocal mayority.
Dont give up then and get into the early stages of the day then.

What are your thoughts on me going after empress ? Her interactions with ET.?

EzekelRAGE · Nov 18, 2018

Vote: Stuart444

Stuart444 · Nov 18, 2018

Sophia said:
On the flipside, that means you have one more fighting chance to out scum. So why not take it?

Hoping to.

Like I said above, GP is my top scum pick right now. I do have some other suspicions.

Like I'm thinking Zeke. Him and Fant were in a chat, Fant has shown himself to be an active and good thinking player.Could Scum!Zeke share fant thoughts in scum chat and it was bad enough that scum didn't want him to give it here.

It also means Zeke can share it but we don't know until his flip if his paraphrasing is accurate or lies.

Z-Beat · Nov 18, 2018

I should've known

Extreme Tactician said:
I was in fact sleeping. And also studying for a test.

Z-Beat said:
Says right here you can't study for a test while you're asleep

Extreme Tactician said:
You can, if you're test is on the sleeping habbits of yourself.

nin · Nov 18, 2018

empressdonna said:
I explained this.

I wasn't feeling well after dinner, in fact I was feeling worse than I was earlier in the day when I stressed that I wasn't well. Plus, the forum was messing up, posts not being able to be sent + search function not working till before dinner came + posts missing from people's profiles = me irl freaking out over having enough time to manually sift through all the pages to do a read list like I wanted to.

I get that I promised it and I wanted to. I honestly thought I'd have time after dinner :(.

But when you were active, those posts were either not good ( calling others out for being inactive, not doing any kind of work) or just scummish ( interactions that just screamed what is going on with a now flipped scum)

nin · Nov 18, 2018

Z-Beat said:
I should've known

Faddy · Nov 18, 2018

Stuart444 said:
I gave him the benefit of the doubt a lot. I've done that multiple times as town.

It usually bites me in the arse like it did yet again.

Note to self: don't do that again D1.

You are on the list of people who tried to save ET.

Nin is also on that list. Sophia too but she switched to coolest so the vote was close and not between two absent players which I think helped us. Z-beat, Absolutbro and melon are others who voted lated on coolest. And I have no idea what Kalor was doing with his vote. So my suspicion is focused in that group.

Z-Beat · Nov 18, 2018

You would never research your own sleeping habits. You'd use a third party. His alibi was full of holes.

nin · Nov 18, 2018

Okay, going to bed now for real. Will quote the interactions as soon as I wake up. Maybe Sophia can do some work today and look those quotes up . Thanks darling

Stuart444 · Nov 18, 2018

empressdonna said:
I wasn't feeling well after dinner, in fact I was feeling worse than I was earlier in the day when I stressed that I wasn't well. Plus, the forum was messing up, posts not being able to be sent + search function not working till before dinner came + posts missing from people's profiles = me irl freaking out over having enough time to manually sift through all the pages to do a read list like I wanted to.

I actually want to take issue with Zeke pushing this line.

Almost everyone who was active here during the afternoon phase KNOWS the forums were messing up. You couldn't even get to the posts via your profile because they just didn't show, you'd have to look through the thread manually to be able to do it.

This was stated so that part of Zekes reasoning is weak BS considering it was stated when he tried to push that angle yesterday.

Android Sophia · Nov 18, 2018

Stuart444 said:
Hoping to.

Like I said above, GP is my top scum pick right now. I do have some other suspicions.

Like I'm thinking Zeke. Him and Fant were in a chat, Fant has shown himself to be an active and good thinking player.Could Scum!Zeke share fant thoughts in scum chat and it was bad enough that scum didn't want him to give it here.

It also means Zeke can share it but we don't know until his flip if his paraphrasing is accurate or lies.

I do appreciate Zeke sharing the notes, even if we have to question their validity right off the bat.

I need to re-read over stuff in light of the end of Day 1; I did little re-reading over the night phase.

EzekelRAGE · Nov 18, 2018

Stuart444 said:
Hoping to.

Like I said above, GP is my top scum pick right now. I do have some other suspicions.

Like I'm thinking Zeke. Him and Fant were in a chat, Fant has shown himself to be an active and good thinking player.Could Scum!Zeke share fant thoughts in scum chat and it was bad enough that scum didn't want him to give it here.

It also means Zeke can share it but we don't know until his flip if his paraphrasing is accurate or lies.

Of course you would go that route on me. I scum read you.

Why would I admit to being in a chat if I was scum?

If you think I am scum, why do you believe me when I say I was in a chat?

Seems like you are now flipping from yesterday when you were like "that's more like town zeke"

nin · Nov 18, 2018

Faddy said:
You are on the list of people who tried to save ET.

Nin is also on that list. Sophia too but she switched to coolest so the vote was close and not between two absent players which I think helped us. Z-beat, Absolutbro and melon are others who voted lated on coolest. And I have no idea what Kalor was doing with his vote. So my suspicion is focused in that group.

Sure I can be on that list, but I for one am town. So you can strike me off that list.

For real now, not going to defend myself.
I chose cs over ET because I wanted to have that noise out of my head. Glad I was wrong.

The Bear · Nov 18, 2018

Just a quick note before I start reading - looks like there is push for Stuart for defending ET on D1. But would scum-Stuart do that on D1 (Assuming coolest/ET was town vs scum)? As long term plan it would be really bad play from scum to be that visible defending scummate.

That said, I'll see soon for myself.

nin · Nov 18, 2018

I believe in town Zeke.

Faddy · Nov 18, 2018

Z-Beat said:
You would never research your own sleeping habits. You'd use a third party. His alibi was full of holes.

So why didn't you vote for him. You didn't actually want to vote for anyone or were very afraid of coolest's bomb claim.

nin · Nov 18, 2018

Grizzly said:
Just a quick note before I start reading - looks like there is push for Stuart for defending ET on D1. But would scum-Stuart do that on D1 (Assuming coolest/ET was town vs scum)? As long term plan it would be really bad play from scum to be that visible defending scummate.

That said, I'll see soon for myself.

Being inactive as ET was on day one is also a bad scum move yet it was a move that was made.

I agree with you though.

Your thoughts on the #empressgate?

Z-Beat · Nov 18, 2018

Faddy said:
So why didn't you vote for him. You didn't actually want to vote for anyone or were very afraid of coolest's bomb claim.

Because I was more annoyed with coolest than I was suspicious of ET.

Faddy · Nov 18, 2018

nin said:
Sure I can be on that list, but I for one am town. So you can strike me off that list.

For real now, not going to defend myself.
I chose cs over ET because I wanted to have that noise out of my head. Glad I was wrong.

Yeah but now we get to have CoolestSpot today... maybe he will be less annoying after yesterday.

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