No, the correct move shouldve been to read CS as scum.So I should of gone further in reading you as scum, but you would of thought I was scummy if I did? Alright
No, the correct move shouldve been to read CS as scum.So I should of gone further in reading you as scum, but you would of thought I was scummy if I did? Alright
Why do you assume CS didnt get a note?So in the end, it turns out, both CS and Zeke did a gambit then. Zeke didn't move, CS didn't get a note.
And that has ended up with a lot of wasted time.
Welp wait on his answer and see if he's lying.Because he does gambits and you're gambiting on that.
Then again if he isn't lying then either you're lying or scum is up to some shit.
either way, idc, this has taken up too much time already.
*shrug*
*shrug*
Gambits within gambits withing gambits
Gambitception.
*Looks at spinning top*
Is this still a gambit?
Ok, this was my problem. I knew something made me feel weird.Let me ask you this. What do you make of the note, and did you visit me?
Vote: melonrabbit
My scum-o-meter regarding her is off the charts. Everything about the reaction to Kalor same as to the note speaks suspicious to me.
I'm sorry, this thread is so active that I have problems catching up and I don't like to post half-thoughts. Also, I was so in into the Kalor train that he being town kind of destroyed my reads.
I'm trying to look into DCPat and Alexem now, will come up with something later.
DCPat Alexem what do you think of each other?
Dcpat has been building his wariness of alexem from D1 from what I have been reading so far(along with his wariness of Kalor).
About CS, I try to look at day 1 from scum POV
They want to out town PRs
Why would scum CS put himself up there for a lynch when the current candidates were an inactive town and inactive scum, they werent gonna get town PRs from there.
I was too quick to buy into the idea of getting a green check that I didn't really consider the consequences. When Kalor claimed his role, my reaction was that not only would it give an answer on two players that I'd had misgivings about, but we'd either get a second scum kill or, at least, get a solid green check. So, I was all for Kalor targeting you at the time. It was pretty much after I'd posted that that I realised the risk of you getting targeted for the night kill. By that time, it had been pointed out, so I'd have only been parroting other's statement if I took back what I'd said. Not proud of how that turned out, but I'd rather be honest about it.Alexem shows up again trying to hurry things along, trying to get Kalor to pull the trigger on me already.
I have a slight town lean on DCPat after the second day. His stance on ET seems to have been fairly genuine to me, and although he went for Kalor on D2, I think that it was still with good intentions. I also find myself agreeing with him on Stuart, who my view of has dimmed as things have gone on. While I don't see much point in dwelling further on his attitude at the start of D2, there was a post towards that end of D1 that stuck in my mind:
This struck me as a possible attempt to give himself an out regardless of how ET flipped. From there, elements such as his pushing of Spot over ET in D1 and his stance on GP in D2 didn't sit well with me. Now there's his handling of the Chuggernaut matter that Zeke's raised on top of that. Also, this post from D2 gave me somewhat of a role-fishing vibe:If ET is scum, then I'll look better upon the people who just voted (with a keep in mind thing that someone from scum could be bussing him while he's asleep for town points) but if he's town, those votes just feel very opportunistic.
In all, my feeling about Stuart has really shifted as the game has gone on, and the arguments against him are adding up more and more to me.I also wonder, why has the person who has the chat power not come forward?
I mean, I'm not disbelieving it but we do only have Zeke's word on it.
But I'm curious why the person with the chat power not come forward.
He looks like grounded and knowing what to do but I have a problem with this:
You didn't exactly push for your top suspect, Alexem ended the day without being voted once
Are you going to push this lynch today?
What do you think of gir, nin, gorlak? Was the Bear train all town?
There was one post yesterday that said: "Giant Panda was just wrongly defending ET, I don't see anything suspicious" - someone had voiced this opinion and it read like TMI. Can't find it at the moment though :/
Kalor is the way folks
Sophia is more helpful
Don't feel bad on GP, he just was wrong on ET vs CS and a little inactive on d1
How have I been holding back most of the game?At this point Zeke, I just wanted a straightforward answer that wasn't a shrug or dismissal. So if wanting clarification from a player that has been holding back most of the game makes me scummy so be it.
So in the end, no note and no movement and everyone is being ambiguous with their answers. Okay.
Did we learn anything?
I keep coming back to this. I think this is a really good point (even though I'd like to have a distracting CS out of the way). There is just a little wifom/paranoia in my head, that makes me doubt (like everything all the time). In the end getting rid of Grizzly must have outweighted the consequences. Scum seemingly aims for skilled town players that can be a danger and are (somewhat?) town read. I think I don't want to townread Coolest, but I have to given the circumstances... I'll put those doubts away.After the Grizzly flip I feel much better about CoolestSpot. I don't think scum would play two of their own against each other on Day 1 if there is the third option of an inactive Grizzly available.
Shitposting - nope, just happy to be home and able to post gifs. I didn't like her push on kalor.EzekelRAGE
Any ulterior motivation for the shitposting EoD 2? What do you make of melonrabbit's input at the end there?
Re: note
I don't see any reasonable town sending a note to Coolest. It's either from scum, randomly sent or made up. Fishing for info from Zeke is highly suspect to me, that's why I'm especially worried about melonrabbit.
What do you think of Stu being reluctant to let kalor chech him?EzekelRAGE
Any ulterior motivation for the shitposting EoD 2? What do you make of melonrabbit's input at the end there?
Re: note
I don't see any reasonable town sending a note to Coolest. It's either from scum, randomly sent or made up. Fishing for info from Zeke is highly suspect to me, that's why I'm especially worried about melonrabbit.
Think you meant Kalor, there - if Faddy flipped while no-one was looking, that would be a surprise!Surprised and not surprised by the Faddy flip and subsequent Giant Panda confirmation, weren't overly townie players but also weren't big townie voices. In kalor's case though, he was a PR so makes sense they laid low.
yeah good catch, thanks for that, at work so rushed a replyThink you meant Kalor, there - if Faddy flipped while no-one was looking, that would be a surprise!
Not a trait I remember from last we played so I'm curious why the chance of playstyle.
Me, for one. I don't feel particularly strongly either Grizzly or ET. If I have to pick between them then I suppose ET has been more fluff than not.
I wouldn't vote CS today despite the mess of that gambit. But I was entertained.
Zeke feels off to me but I'm not getting a scum vibe more of a sense that's he holding a few extra cards and there is somewhere he is going with all this.
I don't like how AB is just gone. Z-beat and B-Dubs too. Lots of people in the middle.
Which is weak and wishy washy.As I said I didn't feel that strongly either way between grizzly and ET and CS' overall performance seemed suspect.
That said, Zeke coming forward with the chat stuff might work in his favour if more people come forward about night chats. Then again, every special chat I've been invited to was closed during the next day phase, so his being able to bring it all forward seems completely suspicious to me, especially since Fantomas died the same night he was invited to a chat. Super suspicious to me that Fantomas would get his by two separate unaligned powers in one night.
How would the chat happen at day end? The chats I've been in have always been open to chat during the night phase, but once the day phase starts they get closed down and you lose access. At least, that's how TMBG and Night Vale worked. No guarantee that this chat is the same way, but I'd be surprised if it was different.
See for me, the threads were closed down and I lost access. I guess if he still had a browser window open? But then I would think it's at least against the spirit of the rules to paraphrase content to which he shouldn't have access.
True, could be 1 shot other odd night. I have a hard time believing a town chat creator throws me in there with a heavily townread player like Fanto. I doubt I was too townread by anyone Day 1.That's a very good point - after the matter with Kalor and GP at EoD, the chat power had slipped my mind. I would have thought that had anyone been involved they might have said so by now. One thought that does occur, though, is that the chat maker might be a PR with limited shots or other such conditions on use (e.g. odd nights or two town participants only) - were that the case, it could be possible that nobody could have been granted a chat in N2.
I don't give a shit about Fanto's next to no information D1 reads.This reads as scummy to me and scum being annoyed I was continuing to bring Fanto's reads into the chat.
I don't give a shit about Fanto's next to no information D1 reads.
Do you think Fanto's reads had something to do with him dying on the same night?I don't give a shit about Fanto's next to no information D1 reads.
I don't give a shit about Fanto's next to no information D1 reads.
yep it is. Think I can guess his other/real problem with it. Not important now though.
The quote you posted earlier? It doesn't tell me much. Neither alignment would happily agree to this deal.What do you think of Stu being reluctant to let kalor chech him?
Oh noes
It's really not. You're making a content mountain out of a mechanics molehillyep it is. Think I can guess his other/real problem with it. Not important now though.
Nope. I think it likely the gossip situation did. I've already said as much.Do you think Fanto's reads had something to do with him dying on the same night?