No, but it looked like unvoting just never came up. AB is involved and generally believes Kalor is telling the truth. He also says the best way to handle the situation is Kalor using his power, so it all adds up.
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BREXIT MAFIA PHASE 2 | Border-Line Insanity!
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I agree that this is an emotional comment:
... but I don't necessarily disagree with the sentiment.
Has Fantomas' D1 reads helped us? Or merely been used by Zeke as a framing device to appear more townlike?
This discussion with melon leaves me with a better feeling. I can see her points and pov. She feels more like her normal self. Has anyone played "Just mafia" with her? She doesn't seem to have a lot of experience as scum.
Melon, I'd appreciate you being more active.
Melon, I'd appreciate you being more active.
The thing is I might have to turn my reads upside down, because I feel really lost and that's not a great feeling.
EzekelRAGE has to be looked at coming tomorrow. There is a ton I've let slide by because I had a towny feeling about the difference he showed D2 in comparison to D1. If we don't hit scum today, I'm going to take a hard look at him.
For not giving a shit about the reads he put in quite the effort to discredit them though.
My point about Zeke is after a entire day of answering with shrugs and gifs and whataboutism. People are getting frustrated and pushing back. He was definitely someone people were going to look at D2 because of this aloof behavior. So why not link yourself to somone so universally town read? Connecting himself with Fanto has given him this buffer of townness. After a day of nothing he comes back with this "knowledge" and gifts it to town to prove he's been hanging in there and actually wanting to be helpful and invested. It is a complete turnabout. And it only then when people are giving him the benefit of the doubt (which really Fanto earned him, it wasn't Zeke modifying how he's been playing) he is at ease tunneling and coming up with busywork theories.
The Fanto reads are white noise. Legit or not.
The Fanto reads are white noise. Legit or not.
I agree that Zeke certainly picked up in activity after D1. I'm reserving judgement on the Fantomas stuff until we get confirmation that such a chat role exists - more so if there are no more reports of getting invited to a chat in D4. Again - having no chatters during N2 could be explained by the role having usage conditions, but two nights in a row with no claimed chat without a good explanation would make the supposed role more spurious.
or join the Faddy train and deal with an inactive later. Dealing with the more scummy faddy is more important I think.
You bring up a good point but I 'd also argue that I can't see Zeke typing that much while trying to fake a paraphrase while also faking reads that Fanto could have made.
If that makes sense I guess.
Lone_Prodigy
VOTE:Lone_Prodigy
Currently the people I want to lynch today:
-LP
-nin
-alexem
-faddy
Don't feel bad about lynching someone catching up.
We are on D3, we have lots of flips and a green check. He CAN give more informed opinions than Sophia could had on D2
VOTE:Lone_Prodigy
Currently the people I want to lynch today:
-LP
-nin
-alexem
-faddy
Don't feel bad about lynching someone catching up.
We are on D3, we have lots of flips and a green check. He CAN give more informed opinions than Sophia could had on D2
Faddy, you watched Conspiracy mafia unfold.
Lets try the reverse angle and get rid of inactives now.
I could, but he's not exactly a strong scum lean for me at the moment. That's coming a bit out of the blue, too - I can get that you might not want L_P to be in a turbo-able position right now, but why Nin over, say, Faddy? As things are, I'm seeing more sense in the Sophia/L_P line of thinking.
I know some brought up earlier that it felt like Sorian vs Faddy.
Okay, if you still think that, what is different between now and then?
Faddy is being a lot more cautious and is trying to lay low. During the above debate, he wouldn't back down. It took up a bit of time with a lot of back and forth. This is quite different from the Faddy in that debate.
Just another point against him for anyone who said it felt like town/town (Sorian/Faddy)
Okay, if you still think that, what is different between now and then?
Faddy is being a lot more cautious and is trying to lay low. During the above debate, he wouldn't back down. It took up a bit of time with a lot of back and forth. This is quite different from the Faddy in that debate.
Just another point against him for anyone who said it felt like town/town (Sorian/Faddy)
If Sophia/LP flips town, I have a feeling we should probably lynch between gir/(me)/turmoil
The resistance to a Sophia lynch is a bit telling though. Grizzly also died with a vote on her.
The resistance to a Sophia lynch is a bit telling though. Grizzly also died with a vote on her.
I only have resistance in voting because I have a preferred lynch with a lot of reasons outlined already and with a lot of effort put into my scum read of them. We have lynched people for less scummy behaviour than this before.
Faddy's lynch also provides info on DCPat due to the quote I posted earlier and gives reason to look back on them (keep in mind, they have a very weak vote out just now).
But after Faddy, I'd be happy with an LP lynch if people are wanting to do so. But I feel we'd get more info right now from a Faddy lynch
How is nin's few posts comparable to the other two candidates being brought forward? What do you make of these cases yourself? Also nin has been really inactive today
LP vs nin is CS wagon, we lynched from ET wagon yesterday, nin was voting for Bear, consolidated the GP vote when Sophia was still in play(one of her voters was Bear), the only thing he has said today is "let's go after the lurkers", not a thought. Currently he sits way more scummy than Faddy to me.
Well he specifically mentioned Faddy to vote for his target. But I agree him being mostly absent isn't really a good look for him when he is advocating to lynch inactive players.
If I had to choose between the three advocatees it would be Faddy as I already mentioned above.
If we include the advocators themselves in the vote list it would be a close race between Nin and Faddy. Not sure on which side of the fence I'd land at the moment.
OK, I'll bite for now - I take your point about not letting the Spot wagon go un-noticed, so I'll park this for now.
VOTE: nin
I still think that the ET wagon had a busser or two on board, though. I also worry that having three campaigns going could make it easier for scum to cook the outcome, so I may not keep my vote there if I think another train of thought has more going for it.
I'd want to give Nin a pass for today as he did feel townie in the last 2 days even if I wasn't a fan of the tone of his posts, he did feel townie. if he continues then we can look at him another day.
The reason I had a slight scum lean on Nin at the end of D2 was that he seemed to have been thinking along the same lines as myself so far and, given the outcome of D2, I had to ask myself if it was an honest mistake in misjudging Kalor and GP or if there was something more to it. I was also concerned aboutt he possibility that he may have been trying to position himself as a town leader - again, if so, to what end?
I don't know, he didn't really have many helpful posts during end of day 2 in my opinion.
Giant Panda you had a vote on Faddy yesterday. Do you still feel he should be lynched? if so, will you switch your vote to them today?
Maybe not but I don't feel any scum vibes from them.
Only thing making me feel scummy at the moment is the push for inactive coasters and a lot less activity today. But I feel/hope this is just an off day for him but if he continues the same train of thought then he can absolutely be lynched later.
But I'm willing to give him a pass today as today's the only real time I've felt scummy on them.
As a head's up malus, everything between Stuart's post and yours unfolded and 1AM and 5AM my time.
I think I'd be fine with a nin vote. I've questioned his actions from the very beginning, when I asked him where he was going with focusing on me he said I was right in thinking it was a prod for info even though I pointed out that I didn't think it was just a prod for info because he wasn't focusing as hard on anyone else at the time, and once fant died he inserted himself as head of steering the conversation, which has been done exceedingly poorly. Also I don't really trust gir and I feel like Stu's pushing me for town just a bit too much for my liking so I'm inclined to not go along with either of theirs.
For the record, I say I don't feel scum vibes from you. You're not full town but a lean town I'd say.
That said, ignoring my leaning town on you, what about reading everything I've said on Faddy or even everything from the end of D2 when I started on faddy onwards.
I feel like that should be more than enough reason to lynch him. imo we're literally allowing scum to walk away free if we don't lynch him today. Considering the targets others have in mind, if we don't lynch him today, he's going to last for a bit and if he's scum, that's bad.
I think he's scum, I think he has shown himself to be scum. Not lynching him is letting scum go as far as I'm concerned.
Why do you ask?
Regardless, I lean town on them. Their posts have been good, I understand the idea of wanting to lynch for info that he mentioned earlier even if I disagree with the lynch target. I think they are more likely than not town.
Because I wanted you to question yourself. I also have a town lead on Turmoil, but I noticed a few posts ago that he was against the Faddy lynch and I wondered how you'd take that.
I also don't really understand this. What do you mean?
It's exactly what I said.
He doesn't get lynched today because say LP gets lynched . Regardless of their flip, I think it will end in town going after someone else leaving what I would call a pretty good likelihood of scum alive and should I get NK, they will be in a better position to steer town in a favourable direction for scum as they won't have me pushing at them all this time. Less pressure from one person.
But yeah, I feel if we let faddy go now, he''ll survive another few days and be able to influence the way the game is going possibly leading town to doom.
D2 seems kinda screwed up as far as reads go. I think you'd get the most from a Lone_Prodigy/Sophia lynch but I'm still thinking they might be town because of how the beginning of this day panned out
I do not know what to do with this. Do you mean you get to know most about Gorlak with a LP flip? Or you think overal most info is gained from a LP lynch? What do you actually think about Gorlak now, because you didn't really answer Turmoil. Do you have idea who you are voting today? Only Nin?
Overall, but yeah I'd get something from gorlak as well. I voted for gorlak to see how he'd react compared to others under any kind of pressure. The feel I get off of him is uneasy.
Okay so, let's add to my list of evidence against Faddy. Namely the killing of Bear. So let's see some of bears posts about Faddy. This will also be marks against Sophia but I'll get to that in a minute
Asking Sophia about these two. Could be looking for a possible link between Faddy and Sophia (Kalor is now confirmed town dead of course though)
Again, another possible link. Good to keep in mind Grizzly was scum reading both Faddy and Sophia (including a vote on Sophia)
Again, Sophia and Faddy
Mentions Faddy again in a think he isn't town way. Also Sophia is here.
One of the things I brought up today as well.
Asking Sophia about these two. Could be looking for a possible link between Faddy and Sophia (Kalor is now confirmed town dead of course though)
Again, another possible link. Good to keep in mind Grizzly was scum reading both Faddy and Sophia (including a vote on Sophia)
Again, Sophia and Faddy
Mentions Faddy again in a think he isn't town way. Also Sophia is here.
One of the things I brought up today as well.