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If you're not liking it now it doesnt get any better. The main story has padding issues as you reach the last third of it
 
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If you didn't like what you played then no the game might not get any better.

For me personally it is my GOTG. Everything is perfect especially the combat.
 

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The old God of War games were macho sexist garbage. God of War 2018 is better than them in every conceivable way. It's got better combat, real characters, and an excellent mature story. It's the Citizen Kane of video games. It's a shining city on a hill as to what games can achieve as a medium.
 

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There was a bit of a narrative lull in the few hours after the first boss fight. I'm not sure where OP is but if that sounds accurate, I'd encourage you to stick with it. It picks up a lot.
 

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The game had a superb start but after the first fight with Baldur, the pacing is a little slow for about 2-3 hours. This was my only issue with the game though. It starts getting awesome when you reach the sea with the giant snake.

Never had any problems with the fact, that there aren't many or "real" boss fights in the game. The other games heavy relied on boss fights, the new God of War don't need them actually.
 

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Lots of backlash in this thread. I agree that the bosses are disappointing but the incidental combat is a lot of fun. There's a lot of variety in the area design and the game flow reminded me of Resident Evil 4. Story's interesting too!
 
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The old God of War games were macho sexist garbage. God of War 2018 is better than them in every conceivable way. It's got better combat, real characters, and an excellent mature story. It's the Citizen Kane of video games. It's a shining city on a hill as to what games can achieve as a medium.
Lol thank you
 

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The slavering over what amounts to a tutorial boss encounter as some kind of high water mark in all videogames is really bizarre. I picture these kinds of people as cargo-short-wearing comic-book superfans whooping and hollering their way through the latest Avengers at the movie theater. The kind who stand up and loudly applause the spectacle of a CGI city being blown up while their favorite hero lays the smack down. Crazy shit.
 

Awesom-O_4000

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It's an ok game. The bosses are awful and the story is nothing spectacular.
The combat is really good and the art direction is impressive.

In many ways its like some old Hollywood movies which upon release were praised for their production values (like Around the world in 80 days or Cleopatra): a couple of years later everyone says they were really dumb and boring.

I felt exactly the same. The Graphics and the combat really felt awesome but for me gow series has always been about epic boss fights which were the hallmark of the series and the new gow really lacks it and is quite tedious padding it with dozens of boss fights.Really hope they up the game with the sequel,that's the main thing they have to focus on.

I enjoyed the story though,it's not even a comparison with the old games which were quite shallow.
 

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The slavering over what amounts to a tutorial boss encounter as some kind of high water mark in all videogames is really bizarre. I picture these kinds of people as cargo-short-wearing comic-book superfans whooping and hollering their way through the latest Avengers at the movie theater. The kind who stand up and loudly applause the spectacle of a CGI city being blown up while their favorite hero lays the smack down. Crazy shit.

wait-say-what-gif.gif
 

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No it doesn't get better. It got dozens and dozens of 10/10's, GOTY nominations, critical acclaim, but no "it doesn't get better". Suggestion for people, you don't NEED to start a new thread for every thought that crosses your mind.
 

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Well he exaggerated a lot but the point remains.It was mechanically shallow as in you don't have much control over the fight lacking any abilities and all.

But it's the same with gow 3 Poseidon fight too.You are thrown right into the fight with no new abilities but at least it had more combos from the start.I think people would much enjoy the baldur fight in the new game+.
 

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It's one of the two best games of the year, one of the best games ever made, pretty unanimously by those in the industry. If you don't like it, it's on you. Just move on
 

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Well he exaggerated a lot but the point remains.It was mechanically shallow as in you don't have much control over the fight lacking any abilities and all.

But it's the same with gow 3 Poseidon fight too.You are thrown right into the fight with no new abilities but at least it had more combos from the start.I think people would much enjoy the baldur fight in the new game+.

I didn't feel like i was lacking in any combos or attacks. That fight did its job, and that was to wow people, and it did it for me. Not sure how improved it would be with all your upgrades since its a set-piece battle that goes in a particular direction from the outset, unlike, let's say, the Valkyrie fights, where your upgrades and more would matter a whole lot.
 

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The slavering over what amounts to a tutorial boss encounter as some kind of high water mark in all videogames is really bizarre. I picture these kinds of people as cargo-short-wearing comic-book superfans whooping and hollering their way through the latest Avengers at the movie theater. The kind who stand up and loudly applause the spectacle of a CGI city being blown up while their favorite hero lays the smack down. Crazy shit.

I've never seen such a pretentious post on this site as this one and that's an accomplishment. Everything from the cinematography, the acting to the actual fight were either great or amazing.
 
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You'll be better off watching this stinky turd of a movie on YT, if and only if you hate yourself and wanna get your brain fucked. /s

On a more serious note: Drop it, OP. Did you buy digital or physical? Maybe you can sell it and get part of your money back. Also, the basic RPG elements are only optional if you are deliberately trying to make the game a sluggish chore to play; missing the spectacular moves, combos, talisman powers and whatnot.

And not about you OP, but some of posters here: Don't worry people, that goty for RDR2 is safe enough. No need to overact your hate, thank you.
 
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This is my problem. Presentation was great, but it wasnt a good bossfight, it's basically a "did the player understand how to parry?"
I think that's OK for an early game boss fight. It's your first boss encounter, you're stuck with your base abilities, and there's a lot of dialogue you're supposed to pay attention to. Plenty of action games have early skill gate bosses to confirm that the player understands a key mechanic.

not everyone is going to like a game, don't get so defensive
Doesn't look that defensive to me. It's an accurate observation.
 

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It never did for me. I kept waiting for this aha moment, but it never happened. It was like listening to a song without a chorus and you keep anticipating the beat to drop but nope.
 

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I didn't feel like i was lacking in any combos or attacks. That fight did its job, and that was to wow people, and it did it for me. Not sure how improved it would be with all your upgrades since its a set-piece battle that goes in a particular direction from the outset, unlike, let's say, the Valkyrie fights, where your upgrades and more would matter a whole lot.

Yeah I guess it's a hard point to contend since the fight is introductory and you cant be given abilities at the outset but the fight peaked for me in terms of epicness. For gow 3 you had Poseidon at first and only improves from that point.The new GOW just has these real boss fights(non troll) quite uncommon and it wears you out with tedious troll fights which feels really cheap.I understand it took them years to complete certain boss fights but I prefer quality over quantity.

I really would prefer if they make the sequel with even at least like 5 main boss fights and make the troll fights completely optional.
 

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I just beat it a few days ago. I liked it, but I kinda miss the old God of War style games. Bosses sucked. Combat was good but the enemies were repetitive as hell. A lot of backtracking early on because you can't fast travel for like the first 2/3 of the game for some reason.
a lot of downtime when traveling around listening to Mimir give me 1000 lines of exposition about Odin, a character you never face or even see. Am I supposed to remember all this shit 3 years from now when the sequel comes out?
were literally Trolls 1 through 10 (I legit lol'd when you were told about "DEATHS GATEKEEPER!", then you go to Helheim and see that huge badass bird, and I'm thinking I'm gonna fight it, but then nope it's just another fucking troll
After I beat it I was like "maybe tomorrow I'll start on the some of the optional shit" but I haven't turned my PS4 back on since. The desire just isn't there.
 

AlanMoore

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Yeah I guess it's a hard point to contend since the fight is introductory and you cant be given abilities at the outset but the fight peaked for me in terms of epicness. For gow 3 you had Poseidon at first and only improves from that point.The new GOW just has these real boss fights(non troll) quite uncommon and it wears you with tedious troll fights which feels really cheap.I understand it took them years to complete certain boss fights but I prefer quality over quantity.

I really would prefer if they make the sequel with even at least like 5 main boss fights and make the troll fights completely optional.

I'm, sure we'll be getting a whole lot more of the beastiary, gods and more in the future games. I'm not worried about this, really. Yes, they could have had more unique bosses, and having to fight that troll on the bridge was a big letdown, but the story surrounding everything was really, really good and immersive, in my opinion, that it didn't matter TOO much in the end. Also, that final boss was the perfect combination of storytelling, emotions and setpieces wrapped into one, so I wasn't pissed when it was all said and done.
 

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I've never seen such a pretentious post on this site as this one and that's an accomplishment. Everything from the cinematography, the acting to the actual fight were either great or amazing.
But that's just it! It's just spectacle, you barely even play your way through that fight. That's why I said it's like watching a CGI-fest at the movies. Pretension's got nothing to do with it, I'm just bored of spectacle. It doesn't do anything for me. I want to play.
 

AlanMoore

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Yeah I guess it's a hard point to contend since the fight is introductory and you cant be given abilities at the outset but the fight peaked for me in terms of epicness. For gow 3 you had Poseidon at first and only improves from that point.The new GOW just has these real boss fights(non troll) quite uncommon and it wears you out with tedious troll fights which feels really cheap.I understand it took them years to complete certain boss fights but I prefer quality over quantity.

I really would prefer if they make the sequel with even at least like 5 main boss fights and make the troll fights completely optional.

One more thing, I'm pretty sure we have had several threads over at GAF, where people contend that GoW3 peaked at Poseidon, though Hercules and Hades were both excellent outings.
 

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And not about you OP, but some of posters here: Don't worry people, that goty for RDR2 is safe enough. No need to overact your hate, thank you.

That's what I thought as well. ;) There was a similar GoW thread just a week or so ago, the game/parts of it were in all seriousness called "awful", "horrible", "terrible" there.
I get that not every game is for everyone. RDR2 wasn't really for me, yet I still can see and admit that overall it is a great game. It is indeed likely going to be the overall GOTY and it, like GoW, would deserve it.
 

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OP, it's a good game. Heavily flawed and stupidly overrated, but a good game. I was pretty bored around where you are too, but stick with it, there's a turning point that comes up shortly afterwards and it becomes more mechanically fun from there on. The story is pretty bad, however, rife with pacing issues and MacGuffins, and there's no payoff, so don't play for that. But the combat does get more fun, and I think it's worth it to stick with the game for that.

That said, there's a lot of issues with the game and I understand why, most of the development time presumably went into conceptualizing the new direction and designing it, but now that the groundwork is done, I do hope the next game ends up being better.

The old God of War games were macho sexist garbage. God of War 2018 is better than them in every conceivable way. It's got better combat, real characters, and an excellent mature story. It's the Citizen Kane of video games. It's a shining city on a hill as to what games can achieve as a medium.

The slavering over what amounts to a tutorial boss encounter as some kind of high water mark in all videogames is really bizarre. I picture these kinds of people as cargo-short-wearing comic-book superfans whooping and hollering their way through the latest Avengers at the movie theater. The kind who stand up and loudly applause the spectacle of a CGI city being blown up while their favorite hero lays the smack down. Crazy shit.

Jesus Christ, two of the worst and most pretentious posts I've ever seen within ten posts of each other. Has to be a record.
 

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Don't force yourself to play games you don't enjoy

On another note, I wish that people could dislike something without resorting to hyperbole. Between this thread and the Uncharted thread, you wouldn't know that these were two basically universally loved (even to this day) games that sold millions of copies to millions of satisfied customers.
 

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lol what?!

The first boss fight is one of the best fights in the last decade.
It's really not... it's basically all spectacle with little in the way of interactivity. I'm not even going to go into games like Bloodborne or Monster Hunter, since that's unfair, but even from WWS games, something like Horizon has actual challenge to its "bosses" versus that Stranger fight.
 

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I don't even remember the dragon boss...
Good, no reason to waste valuable space in your brain for it.
The old God of War games were macho sexist garbage. God of War 2018 is better than them in every conceivable way. It's got better combat, real characters, and an excellent mature story. It's the Citizen Kane of video games. It's a shining city on a hill as to what games can achieve as a medium.
Good parody!
 

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As if calling the game "stupidly overrated" any better, come on.
I think that me saying I think a game is "stupidly overrated" is in fact not as bad as:
  • A poster saying GoW is the Citizen Kane of gaming, and what every game should aspire to, or
  • A poster denigrating anyone who enjoys the game as mindless sheeple who enjoy popular things, and lack the intellectual capacity to know any better
I'm shocked you would even suggest that comparison.
 

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Every time someone's asking "does it get any better"... no, in 9 out of 10 cases it won't.

So please, stop playing it and use your time on games you actually enjoy and that don't make you ask yourself this kind of question.
 

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Agreed. "Overrated" is a horseshit observation that implies that everyone else has somehow been hoodwinked into liking something that the "enlightened" poster did not.
Jfc, I think it's overrated. It's not a reflection on anyone else. It's my opinion that the praise for the game doesn't match what I got from it. Quit being so defensive and pick your battles.
 

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So for people saying to drop it, is it safe to assume the story doesn't really get more interesting? Not worth seeing that aspect to the end?

I like the magical stuff like the turtle and giant snake and the head of that dude that I have. If there's more of that I might like it

The story gets worse, IMO TBQH.

The good stuff is up front. The middle is plodding and meandering. The ending is better than the middle but it's mild. The surprises and plot twists at the ending aren't all that surprising, mostly because the twists are about off-screen incidental characters, and the entire thing just sort of trails off, like a tired old man who can't finish a story (or is more concerned about setting up the sequel than landing a heavy emotional ending).

The slavering over what amounts to a tutorial boss encounter as some kind of high water mark in all videogames is really bizarre. I picture these kinds of people as cargo-short-wearing comic-book superfans whooping and hollering their way through the latest Avengers at the movie theater. The kind who stand up and loudly applause the spectacle of a CGI city being blown up while their favorite hero lays the smack down. Crazy shit.

Agree, though less harshly. The intro fight is nothing special mechanically. In terms of cinematics? Yeah, it's pretty good. Averaged out it's fine and not much more.
 

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I think that me saying I think a game is "stupidly overrated" is in fact not as bad as:
  • A poster saying GoW is the Citizen Kane of gaming, and what every game should aspire to, or
  • A poster denigrating anyone who enjoys the game as mindless sheeple who enjoy popular things, and lack the intellectual capacity to know any better
I'm shocked you would even suggest that comparison.
If you re-read my comment you would see that I'm talking specifically about people who say the Stranger boss fight is one of the best there is in all videogames. I'm not talking about the quality of the game at all. I actually really liked the game and consider it one of the best I've played this year.

However, the OP's main grievance is that the boss fights in this game are a disappointment. IN that they have a point. Immediately we saw a number of people posting that the Stranger fight (which, in actuality is a tutorial) was a masterpiece. I was a bit taken aback at what I was reading, as I found it to be a throwaway 10 minute segment at the start of the game. Nice presentation, sure, but that's hardly "the best fight in gaming" as one poster put it.