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EzekelRAGE

Member
Nov 3, 2017
16,143
My point about Zeke is after a entire day of answering with shrugs and gifs and whataboutism. People are getting frustrated and pushing back. He was definitely someone people were going to look at D2 because of this aloof behavior. So why not link yourself to somone so universally town read? Connecting himself with Fanto has given him this buffer of townness. After a day of nothing he comes back with this "knowledge" and gifts it to town to prove he's been hanging in there and actually wanting to be helpful and invested. It is a complete turnabout. And it only then when people are giving him the benefit of the doubt (which really Fanto earned him, it wasn't Zeke modifying how he's been playing) he is at ease tunneling and coming up with busywork theories.

The Fanto reads are white noise. Legit or not.
Im not liking the way you frame things in regards to me, feels like you are lying. Like the bolded for instance. It is a response to D1. I posted NO GIFS day one. The shrugs were minimal day1 and I explained how they have NOTHING to do with being dismissal.
So your day1 summary is just a lie. Also i was being more townread by the eod on D1. The only person who had a real issue with anything about my D1 is stu on my vote.

it wasn't Zeke modifying how he's been playing) he is at ease tunneling and coming up with busywork theories.
This implies there is nothing different between my D1 vs D2 posting, which is a lie. Also, I had like 4-5 posts about Fanto's reads? If you look at D2 w/o my Fantos post i have been helpful and trying to scum hunt.
Stu push
Chugs claim push
gave a reads list - Have you done that btw?
All things I would classify as trying to scumhunt/being helpful to town.
Vote: melonrabbit

Also you seem to have missed these posts.
How have I been holding back most of the game?

You still haven't explained how me not posting anything for 20 minutes is me vanishing.

If anyone has been avoiding straightforward answers it's you. That whole first part of the post applies to you, not me.
You say I am holding back, but in your most recent read on me you Say im coming forward with fanto reads, doing crazy theories and a lot of busywork.
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Am I holding back or doing too much? It cant be both. Can you not decide on your reasoning?


melonrabbit
Can you answer how town is helped by knowing whether or not I moved to Chugs?

They really couldnt scumread me for it, chugs didn't die. So the movement, like being in the chat is NAI. Nothing is gained but outting a possible PR.

Scum otoh, gets to know whether I actually moved to chugs. Especially if they fell for the tracker seeds I planted.

You've also alluded to me having a pr before.




There is also the issue of you voting CS when you said you would vote ET, which is also mentioned in that vote. You explained it off here:

Which is weak and wishy washy.
 

CoolestSpot

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
17,325
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I just felt a lack of presence from her as the day wind down and it just seemed so odd. Also, the fact barely anyone else has spoken about it until nowish. Her posts lacked exactly what I liked so much about her exchange with Gorlak initially. Very muted.

I mean she was replaced but yeah right about rest.

Hey y'all

I'm back
 

Stuart444

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,068
In short, I think Bear was killed because he nailed two of the remaining scum.

And with Sophia subbing out, I think we should go for Faddy as he's the more active of the two. We know how LP plays. He can easily be lynched tomorrow.

I also linked Faddy and DCPat earlier with that quote from DCPat. That link is something town SHOULD look into even if it's after Faddy and LP are gone.

My order of lynching would be:

Faddy -> LP -> look into DCPat and other potential lynches.
 

CoolestSpot

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
17,325
Okay so, let's add to my list of evidence against Faddy. Namely the killing of Bear. So let's see some of bears posts about Faddy. This will also be marks against Sophia but I'll get to that in a minute



Asking Sophia about these two. Could be looking for a possible link between Faddy and Sophia (Kalor is now confirmed town dead of course though)



Again, another possible link. Good to keep in mind Grizzly was scum reading both Faddy and Sophia (including a vote on Sophia)



Again, Sophia and Faddy



Mentions Faddy again in a think he isn't town way. Also Sophia is here.



One of the things I brought up today as well.

Doing the lords work

So I dont have to

Im sitting here eat leftover pies waiting for faddy to die
 

EzekelRAGE

Member
Nov 3, 2017
16,143
EzekelRAGE has to be looked at coming tomorrow. There is a ton I've let slide by because I had a towny feeling about the difference he showed D2 in comparison to D1. If we don't hit scum today, I'm going to take a hard look at him.
"Youve let slide by?" What is that exactly? I think your main issues with me was the shitposting gifs with melon and the d1 dubs thing.

No need to w8 until 2mrw, you may be dead(unless you know your going to live). So post your thoughts now. That way ppl have something to look at.
 

turmoil7

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,181
==== DAY 3 VOTES ====
Day Start

lone_prodigy (3 votes)
gir - #2746
gorlak - #2839
turmoil7 - #2856

faddy (3 votes)
stuart444 - #2309
coolestspot - #2333 #2553
coolestspot - #2768
thechuggernaut - #2775

alexem (2 votes)
dcpat - #2510
coolestspot - #2553 #2768
giant panda - #2582
turmoil7 - #2660 #2856

melonrabbit (1 votes)
gorlak - #2504 #2536
ezekelrage - #2892

z-beat (1 votes)
nin - #2694
thechuggernaut - #2716 #2775

stuart444 (1 votes)
faddy - #2317
ezekelrage - #2489 #2559
alexem - #2511 #2798

nin (1 votes)
alexem - #2874

coolesspot (0 votes)
ezekelrage - #2559 #2892

coolestspot (0 votes)
turmoil7 - #2584 #2660

absolutbro (0 votes)
gorlak - #2536 #2836

gir (0 votes)
thechuggernaut - #2506 #2716

malus (0 votes)
gir - #2737 #2746

Post Counts:
stuart444: 136 ezekelrage: 123 gorlak: 69 coolestspot: 42 faddy: 35 thechuggernaut: 31 melonrabbit: 23 turmoil7: 20 alexem: 18 gir: 16 malus: 13 nin: 12 dcpat: 11 z-beat: 11 absolutbro: 9 sophia: 8 giant panda: 7 cabot: 3 natiko: 1 lone_prodigy: 1

Click here to go to the Vote Tool!
 

Stuart444

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,068
Stuart444 are the gifs are like a response to anything specific? Let's talk about it.

Just head desking over the lack of people even considering Faddy. From going for a coaster/replacement to ignoring because I was town reading someone.

I spend a lot of time, finding quotes, making my case and even fetched up bears quotes.

If that isn't enough (and it's a lot. like I said, we have lynched people for less than this before) then I don't know what is.
 

Stuart444

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,068
I also have had absolutely no sleep and I'm not even sure if I'll be here at EOD.

So I'm putting in as much work as I am able to while I am here.
 

Stuart444

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,068
I have got multiple possible links from a Faddy lynch. Bears NK can be linked to scum reading both Faddy and Sophia.

There is a lot more to be gained from a Faddy lynch than any other lynch.
 

Alexem

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,335
Essex, UK
Let's say, for the sake of argument, that Faddy was lynched today and flipped town. What would be your take on the situation then, Stuart?
 

malus

Member
Oct 30, 2017
2,947
vote: Faddy

I think this will give us the most information. A scum flip as well as a town flip puts some players in a really bad light. (plus I like Stuarts gif lol)
 

Stuart444

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,068
Let's say, for the sake of argument, that Faddy was lynched today and flipped town. What would be your take on the situation then, Stuart?

If that did happen, hell, you could lynch me for it if you think I'm scum (or just want to policy lynch me) or if you think I'm just an idiot townie, ignore me for the rest of the game unless I say something worth a damn.

It means all my rationale is wrong, it means that linking it to bears death was wrong. etc.

I'm willing to die on this hill.
 

Alexem

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,335
Essex, UK
Nothing serious implied by that, I was just worried that you were running in to your theory without considering the alternative outcome to the one that you were expecting, that's all. For what it's worth, I think your take on Faddy is comping from a genuine place. I'd expect scum!Stuart to be a little more... restrained, shall we say.
 

EzekelRAGE

Member
Nov 3, 2017
16,143
Just head desking over the lack of people even considering Faddy. From going for a coaster/replacement to ignoring because I was town reading someone.

I spend a lot of time, finding quotes, making my case and even fetched up bears quotes.

If that isn't enough (and it's a lot. like I said, we have lynched people for less than this before) then I don't know what is.
Yep, figured that was it. I find the lack of voting interest in both Faddy and Melon interesting.

Faddy - I still don't buy his misreading/response to cs gambit situation. Feels like he was heavily fishing for A PR. Which is why i made a mental note of Faddy being on a team with you is low and being on one with CS is low.
Melon - I feel like she has coasted a bit with most ppl not really mentioning her. She's also subtlety being wondering about PRs. Like I quoted her responses to me from D1. Saying "holding extra cards."

One of the things that stuck out to me was Sophia wanting to get the Faddy vs Stu thing resolved. I was scumreading her a lil, so really wanted to see which side she fell on.
 

turmoil7

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,181
I think you are taking a lot of assumptions for granted. As Faddy is scum for sure from your pov, everything else fits. I personally don't pay attention to who scum kills so early in the game. Usually it is random or some stupid reason like "that sentence sounds like a [x pr] to me!"

I do appreciate the work you put in, but I won't follow it blindly either.
 

Stuart444

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,068
Nothing serious implied by that, I was just worried that you were running in to your theory without considering the alternative outcome to the one that you were expecting, that's all. For what it's worth, I think your take on Faddy is comping from a genuine place. I'd expect scum!Stuart to be a little more... restrained, shall we say.

I was anticipating a question like that when I was thinking earlier. Nothing's changed for me though, I'm ready to die on this hill.

This also doesn't mean I think LP is town, I've linked them to Bear via the quotes from when Sophia was still in the game. But bear seemed to be linking them together as well.

I do NOT think that is a coincidence.
 

Stuart444

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,068

EzekelRAGE

Member
Nov 3, 2017
16,143
I spend a lot of time, finding quotes, making my case and even fetched up bears quotes.

If that isn't enough (and it's a lot. like I said, we have lynched people for less than this before) then I don't know what is.
Now you know how I feel with my posts/theories etc. I feel like ppl just skim my posts anyway. Im still gonna post it.

*shrug* again MY SHRUGS are meant to be read as below.
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turmoil7

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,181
I agree with that as well. I think I even said as such to Faddy earlier.



Maybe but do remember. They allowed a green checked player to live via Kalor's override and went for Bear.

That I don't think is a coincidence either.
Without knowing what powers scum and town likely have, hard to say
 

Stuart444

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,068
Without knowing what powers scum and town likely have, hard to say

Maybe so but I think it is good circumstantial evidence especially weighted up against Bears reads AND the behaviour Faddy has shown in the latter half of D2 and D3 as a whole.

I'm not asking anyone to vote blindly. I'm asking for people to really THINK about this. Faddy's flip may give us a hell of a lot of info compared to the others and if they are scum, we get rid of scum and have places to look at after.

there is more working against him than anyone else I think.
 

nin

Asked Politely
Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
7,159
sorry stuart but i just disagree, you can post as many gifs as you want.
i dont support that tunnel of yours
 

EzekelRAGE

Member
Nov 3, 2017
16,143
Stuart444 Thoughts on Gorlak wanting to take a harder look at me 2mrw?

I don't think it should have the caveat of whether we get scum today or not. Call me out for any scumminess you have of me while you have the chance.
 

Alexem

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,335
Essex, UK
both great, even alexem.

who votes for me because i am inactive for one single day.

that just takes the cake.
Ah-HEM.
The reason I had a slight scum lean on Nin at the end of D2 was that he seemed to have been thinking along the same lines as myself so far and, given the outcome of D2, I had to ask myself if it was an honest mistake in misjudging Kalor and GP or if there was something more to it. I was also concerned aboutt he possibility that he may have been trying to position himself as a town leader - again, if so, to what end?
Pay attention at the back, please.
 

Stuart444

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,068
Stuart444 Thoughts on Gorlak wanting to take a harder look at me 2mrw?

I don't think it should have the caveat of whether we get scum today or not. Call me out for any scumminess you have of me while you have the chance.

I wouldn't disagree on taking a look if only because we need to keep other possibilities open in general however I don't think we'll get much from it if I'm honest.
 

nin

Asked Politely
Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
7,159
A good case is a good case. Just knowing for no reason would imply you have some insider info which I don't think you have. I think you're just being obtuse and refusing to budge from low activity lynches just because.

I'm not obtuse Stuart. No need for that. In my eyes the tunneling going on is just too strong.
Sure you can say that he threw himself into a pit of no coming back but again. For my money he won't get my vote TODAY.
That's the thing Stuart I am not saying that I don't want to get rid of Faddy. I just would like to go on with it in a different manner as it is usually done in here and lead tosn so many times to a loss

And now please cut it
 

nin

Asked Politely
Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
7,159
I h will have go say though that Faddy being as silent as he is now, I do not support that.

Still..
 

Stuart444

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,068
I'm not obtuse Stuart. No need for that. In my eyes the tunneling going on is just too strong.
Sure you can say that he threw himself into a pit of no coming back but again. For my money he won't get my vote TODAY.
That's the thing Stuart I am not saying that I don't want to get rid of Faddy. I just would like to go on with it in a different manner as it is usually done in here and lead tosn so many times to a loss

And now please cut it

You're wanting to trim the fat. That is a bad way to go about this but that's all you have put forward today.

I'm going for an actual scum read rather than "trimming the fat".

I'll continue pushing for this today. You are free to disregard it.
 

Stuart444

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,068
I'll be really surprised if I survive tonight regardless of who flips though.

RIP me.

Hopefully people remember this.
 

Faddy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,141
I'll be really surprised if I survive tonight regardless of who flips though.

RIP me.

Hopefully people remember this.

If you are town and you kill me there is no way you will die tonight because you will be lynched the next day. Which is really what should be happening today.

I don't think you are town though and just want to tunnel on me because i made the mistake of calling you town.

The fact you keep on talking about how you are going to die is scummy af. You are mafia and know you won't die in the night. It is complete bullshit and I can't believe people are buying into it.

If we aren't going to lynch stuart today then we should kill Alexem.