I'll admit, half way through, I thought I was tunneling too much but by that point, I was like "I'm too far gone now" and just kept going XD
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BREXIT MAFIA PHASE 2 | Border-Line Insanity!
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I'll admit, half way through, I thought I was tunneling too much but by that point, I was like "I'm too far gone now" and just kept going XD
Just for the record, I'm OK with an L_P lynch today. I think enough questions have been raised from Sophia to make an information flip viable. That said, I'm not voting just yet for the simple reason that I don't want to put him into turbo-able territory so soon - it's a majority of nine, after all, and I'd rather not have us starved of the discussion time that we still have available.
feels good to commit to one solid read, no matter how little or big a case you have. Just need to know if that one flip is right for your own sanity
I was, when I voted I wasn't 100% sure he was scum, still very much on the fence. But LP wasnt getting lynched and stu promised to back me on the LP wagon today, so thought if this helps me then go for it
if LP is town, then I give you permission to fry me like faddy would a mars bar and eat me
Generally I think it's a good thing to have two competing lynchs during the day. If we all pile on LP without much discussion of other players, and then he turns out to be town, we will have wasted a day.
I'll place my vote where I started the day at. I'll need to reread Sophia/LP to get a better feeling on them.
Vote: turmoil7
I'll place my vote where I started the day at. I'll need to reread Sophia/LP to get a better feeling on them.
Vote: turmoil7
absolutbro Who are your top two scum today? Or are they still the same after another flip?
Who do you read as town at the moment?
Who do you read as town at the moment?
This is slight defending of turmoils early nin vote. Besides him fantomas and Stuart voted nin. So why single out turmoil?
Note the Kalor and Alexem shade.
Not long after he votes ET which he keeps all day:
How many scum would he name in one post? This is also preparing a stu lynch if et should be lynched, a plan which failed.
He is cosy with B-Dubs and tries to comfort him into the day? Highlights low posters and gives points to Donna.
Another early shot at Stu. I'm pretty confident that scum team didn't plan to bus themselves all out throughout the whole game. Stu is town.
Comment on Zeke. Have to see if he follows up with that line of questioning.
Mhm, that gets called out by Donna herself. His response:
I'm sure we find scum in there, with a likely ET lynch probably one scum? Kalor, GP =town. That leaves Alex, DcPat, Zbeat and best read Donna. 1 in 4 doesn't sound like the best odds to find scum right now, but I'll keep this in mind.
And why did he leave out melonrabbit? He prodded her at the very beginning.
The end of day 1 makes me feel better about coolest again. Faddy seemed frustrated, and told everyone cs did dumb shit as scum in previous games as well.
I'd put coolest in my townreads again and really hope this doesn't fuck us endgame, surely more info later in the game will help us with that situation?
I'd put coolest in my townreads again and really hope this doesn't fuck us endgame, surely more info later in the game will help us with that situation?
Comment- no he didn't comment further. I questioned him about it but he ignored me.
Faddy read on Sophia D2 in response to Grizzly:
This seems like an unusual defense? I think Sophia commited to "give bear time" relatively early and simply couldn't backtrack.
Yeah, I get the feeling he decided he could get away with ignoring unpleasant questions.
I feel like nin could be an easy wagon to jump on as scum. I mentioned that he kind of worried me, but I'm not super concerned about him right now. If he's still around later in the game, then we should look into him, but I don't think that's the way we should go right now
Yep. Really wish I knew where Sophia leaned on the whole faddy vs Stu narrative that started forming early yesterday.
Thoughts on faddys goal with me and cs?
No real thoughts from me atm. I mean, we're in a good position so I see no reason to worry.
This interaction was what I've been looking for:
Sophia asking Faddy why he didnt move his vote D1
#1369 - the fact she had to poke him again for a response (re faddy ignoring posts)
This is making me almost townreads her. If only she would've followed up on that somewhere? I'm still rereading, maybe it comes up.
But why would scum!Sophia poke in the whole that grizzly highlighted and was (probably) killed for?
Sophia asking Faddy why he didnt move his vote D1
#1369 - the fact she had to poke him again for a response (re faddy ignoring posts)
Faddy responds to that two or so posts later if you want to read that.
This is making me almost townreads her. If only she would've followed up on that somewhere? I'm still rereading, maybe it comes up.
But why would scum!Sophia poke in the whole that grizzly highlighted and was (probably) killed for?
I can't blame you if you found Sophia scummy.
I also don't think we should be lynching for info on D4 but we're in a good spot so one misstep wouldn't scuttle the game
I also don't think we should be lynching for info on D4 but we're in a good spot so one misstep wouldn't scuttle the game
So Sophia not giving that away.
And then we have starting with 1962 the interaction that sparked the faddy lynch in the end. Faddy wanted to protect gir. "Because he's town and not vanilla". Cheap dig makes Stu think. This feels natural.
Who do you think we should lynch?
Who shouldn't we lynch?
I've been taking another look at my notes on Sophia, thinking about what her flip might entail. A lot of my observations revolved around her interactions with Gorlak. I think this makes me feel better about Gorlak's line of enquiry about her - a town flip for Sophia/L_P could raise questions about Gorlak, so I think it would be a risky push for Gorlak as scum to go after them. I'd imagine a bus attempt to be even more unlikely at this point. I don't know what the flip would reveal, but I think Gorlak's intentions are good - at least that's my current take.
So from your perspective, you would want an LP lynch today or do you feel like someone else is more important today?
I wouldn't object to it. I still think that Turmoil and DCPat are worth looking in to, and I can't say that I had the strongest feelings about Sophia if I'm honest, but given how many people have concerns about her, I think an L_P flip would answer a lot of people's questions. The important part, I think, is that we know what to do with that information - if this is going to be an information flip, we need a good idea of what to do with it - especially if L_P does flip town.
What do you think of DCPat taking into account my previous posts that looked into his post history?
Certainly there's more to link him to Faddy from D2 than D1, but then if we were to assume that they were team-mates, it's only to be expected that they want some distance between each other.
It's true that I had DCPat on the town side going in to D3 - his vote on me wasn't unwarranted. Paired with the vote on Kalor from the day before, though, I had to wonder if that first vote on me was to set up a potential wagon early on. I am still of the mind that there may be another busser amongst ET's voters on D1. Out of the voters, Fantomas and Kalor have been flipped town and I know that I'm town. Faddy, meanwhile, flipped scum. That leaves Turmoil, Gir, Spot, Malus and DCPat. Of those, Gir, Spot and Malus would go on to vote for Faddy in D3, while Turmoil and DCPat voted for me. Now, as I was the subject of the alternative vote, I recognise that it's not easy to bring this up without it sounding like OMGUS. I do think, however, that Faddy does seem like a riskier option for a bus seeing that scum were already down ET and Faddy may (or may not, as per Zeke's theory) have had a ninja kill left to use. That leaves Turmoil and DCPat on the alternative wagon and whoever it would have been for, it would have looked dubious to me.
Ah, just for the point of clarity, it was B-Dubs that voted for ET in the role that Malus now holds.
Alexem if LP flips scum, what would you think about Turmoil and DCPat in a world where LP flips scum.
Since you say this, I feel it is worth discussing as you are looking more at those 2 than LP right now.
Since you say this, I feel it is worth discussing as you are looking more at those 2 than LP right now.
So looking at the D3 votes:
When Faddy votes Alexem, it's Faddy 6, Alexem 5. Close to a tie.
Then we get melon and Z-Beat B2B on Faddy. This makes both look rather townie (despite being close together) as it's too early to bus.
After an unvote and no other movement, AB and Zeke finish it. With no further votes on Alexem, these look more like bus votes.
When Faddy votes Alexem, it's Faddy 6, Alexem 5. Close to a tie.
Then we get melon and Z-Beat B2B on Faddy. This makes both look rather townie (despite being close together) as it's too early to bus.
After an unvote and no other movement, AB and Zeke finish it. With no further votes on Alexem, these look more like bus votes.
So on day 1, the most shade Faddy throws seems to be at Gorlak. Not as strong of a clear for him as Coolest because Gorlak wasn't in a position to be the lynch over ET, but I think it counts for something. I've also been liking his recent posts and analysis, so Gorlak's a town lean for me.
Gorlak in my experience can be pretty useful at end game. I think Faddy wanted to keep shade on him (even throwing me and him as a scum pair in the last day) to see if he could get him lynched without wasting an NK on him.
Unlikely for Gorlak to be scum I'd say. Not impossible, just unlikely.
Don't like them but I can say that about all of their final votes really.
Stuart444: This was an interesting interaction between DCPat and Faddy on day 1 that I think you missed. It seems like Faddy is sincerely frustrated that his push isn't working, and that gives me a slight town lean on DCPat. Only slight though, because he was the last voter on ET, so it easily could have been bussing.
My problem with Melon at the moment is that I do not like that D1 vote, her D2 vote is after the Kalor claim, so I don't read much into it. Don't like her D4 vote. Day 3 one is interesting. It was a vote for Faddy at 6-5, making it 7-5 (immediately after Zbeat making it 8-5.) I have trouble reading that vote.
For her other contributions I didn't find that much the last couple of pages. I think it's weird that she forgot about Alexem and later townreads him. Zeke pointed that out and apparently she townread him after a reread. Which I just don't understand without explanation. Honestly there isn't much more. Few statements without reasoning.
Not feeling to good.
For her other contributions I didn't find that much the last couple of pages. I think it's weird that she forgot about Alexem and later townreads him. Zeke pointed that out and apparently she townread him after a reread. Which I just don't understand without explanation. Honestly there isn't much more. Few statements without reasoning.
Not feeling to good.
You're right, I did miss that.
I see it a different way though. Considering DCPat wasn't interacting with Faddy much, could Faddy have chosen to get some interaction in so that should DC flip before him, no one will be able to say he didn't interact with him or even call him out (which that post could be considered, calling DC out for something)
Just something to think about.
I just noticed how Nin last day suggested Melon as scum candidate 3 posts in a row, but never came back to Melon himself. Which is weird.
Yeah, I guess that's possible.
Also, can you remind me of your case for Sophia? There's the vote flipping Day1 and Grizzly's scum read of her and Faddy, but I can't remember what else there was.
My main case for her comes from Grizzly's scum read of her along with Faddy.
That said focusing on her votes on D1 + 2 (none on D3 as LP only had one post and Sophia replaced out quite early in the day):
She says she would prefer Coolest over ET (who she does vote again)
She says this might not stay but the vote did stay. Here are her posts after this one:
A LOT of this reads like she's trying to make sure she is there but that's all. In other words, busy work.
Not feeling great looking at that I'll admit.
Hmm, slightly more town read on Sophia.
Also this is sophia explaining the d1 vote.