Oh yeah I had that exchange there between DC and Faddy. Not sure if that was manufactured between scum buddies or scum Faddy trying to sway an ET vote without moving himself.
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BREXIT MAFIA PHASE 2 | Border-Line Insanity!
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I already have, I'm just trying to convince others to vote him now.
Literally we're in a fantastic position and have almost nothing to lose. :D
1. Grizzly got Faddy, and I'm town. So Grizzly was right, but not super-right.
2. These reads take time. It's not my job to "inspire confidence" in you. And Gorlak is just being Gorlak so maybe I am ignoring him on purpose.
3. See above for my case.
Anyway I'm going to re-read Turmoil and see if it's worth moving him up a tier, but I'm voting for the scum tier.
We don't know you're town til you're lynched. Downplaying the reads of a dead confirmed town isn't a good look to me.
You've been around since early D3. More than enough time yet it's taken until nearly the end of D4 to see any type of effort.
Not buying that you're town. Happy enough to see you lynched to either prove that my hunch is right or prove that you're town and thus I'm wrong.
But I'm pretty sure I'm right so we'll see.
Did you mention this to AB and melon?
--Not questioning if the chat, but calling out Fanto's reads.
malus thoughts on melon other than what you posted above. have you paid any attention to her?
If you're referring to Grizzly, wasn't he neutral, not town?
Difference is, we know Grizzly's reads for a fact (ie they have been posted - not paraphrased - in the thread) and of course one of his scum reads was right. The other scum read he had was Sophia, a top scum read.
It shouldn't be downplayed, especially after one of the scum reads was scum.
You're right.
That said, we didn't know he was neutral until he was NK'd. Neither would scum know.
Grizzly's reads were pretty much trying to help town, he didn't have a win con which would have benefited him by leading town astray. So his reads are still pretty valid to look at
You still didnt answer the question. paraphrased or not, they are fanto's reads.
im just saying, keep that same energy in regards to how you feel about reads.
Are you talking you or generally?
Because never appease your Gods, it's pointless.
Grizzly's are here straight from the Bear's mouth. We have to take your word for Fantomas's reads, and even without my current tunnel home, without a flip or green check there's no reason to take your word for anything.
Even if I got green checked. You already made up your mind.
You dont give a shit about fanto's reads.
They were basically wrong anyway.
So what are you trying to argue exactly?
If you look at the aggregate postings of LP and nin the last 2 day phases, even with MIA LP on D3, in any case I lean more scum on nin, today he posted a bunch of nothing
*note he never voted for alexem
so rereading D3 and the whole thing with Chuggernaut, Faddy and Zeke going on about CoolestSpot's (second?) fake claim. For background, this is AFTER the Chuggernaut has claimed Sleepwalker, but before we know Faddy is a Ninja. By virtue of having a Ninja, scum should know there's a Motion Detector of some sort in the game. I mean, it could be TMBG where there's a pointless scum power, but in TMBG it was at least a two part power whereas Faddy is "just" a one-shot Ninja. Faddy goes in trying to back theChuggernaut up on why there has to be an investigator somewhere. They're calling it a cop, but my guess would be they're trying to force out a Motion Detector claim. The whole thing makes me trust Zeke more (I know, I know), and the Chuggernaut a lot less. Starts around post 2613, it's a bit much to quote.
Was 2 votes on chug. He claimed early to "preemptively" get ahead of a possible tracker/watcher. Stu just rolled over and accepted the claim w/o questioning it.
I think chugs could be a good info lynch.
I think chugs could be a good info lynch.
This is when Chuggs claimed sleep walker. I honestly don't have any issue with it, it came naturally enough that I don't think there was any scum gambit going on.
I also just find it hard to believe that scum would gambit right after losing someone D1 the very next day.
Guess we're going to be on opposite sides of the fence again.
Not a problem, because if and when I'm proven right, you can again, be all
I guess this also bears bringing up. We know now that Panda is town and Faddy was scum. :-\
People weren't scum reading Faddy too much at the time tbh. I fought hard to get that lynch when most were willing to give him a pass so /shrug
Which makes wanting to protect Faddy even weirder, to me at least.
Cool.
And if and when LP flips scum, I'll be all ^_____^ from spec chat after my assumed death.
If you think someone is town, protecting them seems quite normal to me.
Uhm, is there a problem? I just stated what happened when he claimed.Guess we're going to be on opposite sides of the fence again.
Not a problem, because if and when I'm proven right, you can again, be all
You stated Chuggs would be a good info lynch. I don't think so.
therefore opposite sides of the fence.
And if LP flips scum with you again either not voting for them or voting with a weird hammer. you'll be all
here it is
4. [m] turmoil7 - GMT-3 scum lean, not because he is scum reading me but the way he acted just does not sit well with me
5. [f] Sophia - EST [m] Lone_Prodigy i scum read sophia and i should therefore scum read L_P i kinda did until the most recent posts of his, last ditch attempt to save himself ? not sure, still scum lean
6. [m] Stuart444 - GMT town reading him after the meltdown
7. [m] absolutbro - EST Absolute NULL
8. [f] empressdonna - GMT [m] TheChuggernaut - CST Went after empress like a madman, but after the claim he made, he is still kinda on my town list, as the days go on i might have to revisit him. for now. Town lean
9. [m] nin - GMT+1 He was and still is a town member, even though his reads are sup par, i town read him.
As of today town, we might have to get rid of him in the long run though.
10. [m] EzekelRAGE - CST strong player with a lot of shitposts that turn out to be pretty okay at times, not sure what to do with him, strong is no allignment indicative. As for now , Null
11. [m] Gorlak - GMT+1 annoying little kid who does some work, gets into everyones face and is productive at times.
if he is scum, he is one scary mo fo, not sure but my gut is telling me town, either he is bad with his reads ( thats why scum wont get rid of him) or he IS scum, even though for now i town read him
12. [m] Alexem - GMT the earlier day phases i was very very into seeing him dead, since he did not bring anything to the table ( i know same could be said about myself ) but he at least showed to be more productive the last day phase, still unsure. Null as for now
13. [f] melonrabbit - PST She is insane, as of today i did not even had any kind of interaction with her, she herself did not seel any. ( Is there a connection maybe ? ) Scum lean as of coasting pretty hard
15. [m] Giant Panda - EST Town
16. [m] gir - GMT Strong Null, not sure what to make out of him and his way of playing ( which is when i am not there )
17. [m] CoolestSpot - EST after his gamble i town read him. Still do, sorry to see him go though
18. [m] B-Dubs - EST [m] malus - UTC+1 He is trying to get rid of me ( he will fail like so many others ) not sure what to make out of him, scum lean
19. [m] DCPat - UTC+1 Same as malus even though i think he is just a lost townie
20. [m] Z-Beat - PST Coaster deluxe. Like for real. Null
Did chug say he would be out/busy?
Let him defend himself.
Claiming doctor/a IV/something useful could out a town PR but give away scum chugger to town. They were down by 1 already, they couldn't risk losing another player, much less a potential PR instead of a goon.
A sleepwalker claim is better than nothing to distract/keep entertained an info starved town
I recall Faddy defending Donna on D1, I don't recall D2, tho.
Faddy was also town reading me up until I pushed at him.
Faddy seems to prefer to scum read his scum mates so I'm not sure there is much merit on being all "Faddy defended x"
Just imo.
As time's getting on, I'm going to put my vote down now.
VOTE: Lone_Prodigy
After the discussion of the last couple of days, I think I'd be concerned if another option came up now. I'm still very much on the fence about Sophia/L_P, but I've no reason to object to the flip. I will say, though, that I appreciated L_P's earlier thoughts on D1 - very constructive.
With regards to Absolutbro's vote on Chuggernaut, I don't think that's unwarranted given his concerns. I wouldn't go all in on that interpretation myself as it is, but I can see where he's coming from. Possibly one to bear in mind down the line.
VOTE: Lone_Prodigy
After the discussion of the last couple of days, I think I'd be concerned if another option came up now. I'm still very much on the fence about Sophia/L_P, but I've no reason to object to the flip. I will say, though, that I appreciated L_P's earlier thoughts on D1 - very constructive.
With regards to Absolutbro's vote on Chuggernaut, I don't think that's unwarranted given his concerns. I wouldn't go all in on that interpretation myself as it is, but I can see where he's coming from. Possibly one to bear in mind down the line.
My vote will almost certainly move to an actual contender (though it looks like L_P will be the runaway vote). TheChuggernaut has no other votes and hasn't had a chance to say anything so I'm good with voting there for now. I'm about to leave the office though, so I'll have only spotty connection for the next hour and some, and I will probably be driving at EoD and will not look at my phone if that is the case.
A lot of people were town reading Faddy back then. If you want to lynch people that were town reading Faddy it's going to be a long list. I was trying to get scum to show themselves back during that note nonsense and I already explained that I just witnessed a similar play in another game which multiple players confirmed. Faddy didn't start with his push until after I decided it was worthless and this was part of the reason I scum read him.
This entire argument feels very lazy. Info lynch me if you want, but the only info you're going to get is that I was a town who was mostly on the same page as Stuart after the Faddy filp
This entire argument feels very lazy. Info lynch me if you want, but the only info you're going to get is that I was a town who was mostly on the same page as Stuart after the Faddy filp
Sorry, didn't realise you were after my opinion - I just wanted to check I was thinking of the right one and thought it might be useful to pair up your suggestion with the post you had in mind. Since you ask, I think it's a valid point to make but I wouldn't call it conclusive by itself. It could, in all fairness, have been a genuine error of calculation - until the game's resolved, we don't know for certain how many scum we were dealing with at the time.