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Oct 25, 2017
23,202
DC and Turmoil are still my top two scum reads. I already said that Turmoil vote on nin was him trying to get out of voting for LP, but now it really looks like that. Meanwhile, DC straight up didn't vote and I'm thinking that's because we had two scum wagons and he wasn't sure what to do
 

Alexem

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,335
Essex, UK
Ouch. Not a huge surprise given Stuart's track record, but still gutting.

Thoughts going in to D5:
  • From votes alone, DCPat, Nin and Melon aren't looking so good. Turmoil's D1 and D4 votes give me a better impression on him, although not so much D2 and D3.
  • Getting a check on Swamped would be helpful to learn about the train on Spot on D1, but I wouldn't want to use a lynch to do it or expose an investigator unnecessarily.
  • It seems to have been too easy – might there be a larger scum team than expected, or are they banking on having someone so untouchable at endgame that they can afford to bus more freely?
  • Unless scum actually did start with an expendable number of players, I would have a hard time picturing Gorlak, Gir or Malus as bussers, given their consistency. This also counts in Swamped's favour.
  • Nin and Absolutbro look the more concerning amongst the Turmoil train.
One other thing to mention - I'll be at a wedding on Friday, so I'll most likely have to miss the end of the day, depending on what sort of time I get back to the hotel. I'll get in what I can before then.
 

Z-Beat

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
31,831
That's unfortunate. Well he was completely right on that, I'll give him that. Wouldn't have expected scum to bail out of annoyance caused of chaos
 

melonrabbit

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
3,103
Nowhere
It seems to have been too easy – might there be a larger scum team than expected, or are they banking on having someone so untouchable at endgame that they can afford to bus more freely?

This has been a growing concern of mine. For a brief moment I considered Stu but obviously that isn't true and the thought of scum allowing Stu to bus two of them in a row seemed absurd.

Still it is worth looking closely at the "untouchable" players. I feel that nin and Gorlak would be two working candidates.
 

Alexem

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,335
Essex, UK
Since we know Stuart's trustworthy, I think this bears repeating from the end of yesterday:

I think [nin's] votes are just wacky.

I'll be honest, I can't see scum or town nin doing it.

I'm just kinda ignoring it now. if he's alive in a day or two, I'll be happy to lynch him but I've got my order of preferences just now.

LP -> DC -> Nin probably.

Mind you, while malus is on the LP lynch, if LP flips town, I'd probably put Malus on par with DC. Dubs felt towny but malus isn't making me feel good for some reason.

Of course if LP is scum, I don't think malus as scum would bus him after losing scum Faddy.
 

melonrabbit

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
3,103
Nowhere
That's unfortunate. Well he was completely right on that, I'll give him that. Wouldn't have expected scum to bail out of annoyance caused of chaos

Again Sophia's own reasons for subbing out have little to do with the game let alone her alignment. Her actions towards Kalor on D2 were more damning and spoke louder to the theory that she was scum.
 

Alexem

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,335
Essex, UK
For a brief moment I considered Stu but obviously that isn't true and the thought of scum allowing Stu to bus two of them in a row seemed absurd.
I was worried about Stuart for a while, too. Yesterday made him pretty safe in my eyes, but otherwise the longer he stayed alive, the more suspicious I'd have been of him. I'm sorry to see him go, but I'm glad to know he was one of the good guys.
 

Giant Panda

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,688
Well, I've been doing very poorly as I've managed to miss every single scum lynch. Probably 2 scum left now. The LP lynch seemed like enough of inevitability that teammates easily could have bussed him, but it's probably good to look at Turmoil voters too.
 

Alexem

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,335
Essex, UK
Yes, so Grizzly and an understudy would have made two. Would three neutrals have been too many? Bit of a moot point, really, as a neutral could still be considered a threat to town.
 
Oct 25, 2017
23,202
So here are my thoughts about lynching. I think DC and Turmoil are the next two we should go for obviously and I really don't care about the order. If Turmoil filps town, then the last scum is probably nin, but I think filpping Turmoil first is the safer choice. We're on the right track here, I'm guessing and I would like to stay on it
 

Alexem

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,335
Essex, UK
Personally, I would choose DCPat over Turmoil at the moment. DCPat's lack of a vote yesterday left a bad taste to me and I do wonder about Turmoil being put up as the alternative train - would scum risk having a scum versus scum choice after losing two of them? That said, it did look like there was potential for a tie for a while, although that probably wouldn't have done L_P or Turmoil any favours, either.
 
Oct 25, 2017
23,202
Personally, I would choose DCPat over Turmoil at the moment. DCPat's lack of a vote yesterday left a bad taste to me and I do wonder about Turmoil being put up as the alternative train - would scum risk having a scum versus scum choice after losing two of them? That said, it did look like there was potential for a tie for a while, although that probably wouldn't have done L_P or Turmoil any favours, either.

I'm thinking that scum didn't put up the train and it just happened naturally. I think DC is the safer lynch too, but even if Turmoil isn't scum, it's going to tell us if we should go for nin or not. I'm guessing scum Turmoil wouldn't of gone for another one of his scum buddies and I think both the trains being scum explains why DC didn't vote.

I think our lynch order should be
1. DCPat
2. Turmoil
3. nin

Right now I'm thinking we will hit the rest of the scum team before we get to nin
 

turmoil7

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,181
I would choose Chugger above anyone else. Last day phase I said that his power makes little sense without a scum IV to balance the potential damage to town.

We got 3/5 of the scum team and there is none yet.

I bet that if chugger is town the two remoaner scum will coordinate so that the non IV one dies first to make him untrustworthy in the late game. He is a liability and we only loss a sleepwalker if he is town

VOTE:theChuggernaut
 
Oct 25, 2017
23,202
I would choose Chugger above anyone else. Last day phase I said that his power makes little sense without a scum IV to balance the potential damage to town.

We got 3/5 of the scum team and there is none yet.

I bet that if chugger is town the two remoaner scum will coordinate so that the non IV one dies first to make him untrustworthy in the late game. He is a liability and we only loss a sleepwalker if he is town

VOTE:theChuggernaut

Oh, this is funny
 

melonrabbit

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
3,103
Nowhere
I would choose Chugger above anyone else. Last day phase I said that his power makes little sense without a scum IV to balance the potential damage to town.

We got 3/5 of the scum team and there is none yet.

I bet that if chugger is town the two remoaner scum will coordinate so that the non IV one dies first to make him untrustworthy in the late game. He is a liability and we only loss a sleepwalker if he is town

VOTE:theChuggernaut

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melonrabbit

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
3,103
Nowhere
I haven't really approved of or trusted anything nin has said or done since day 1 so there's no real reason to speculate on my stance. If he's town I'll eat crow on that but I don't really think he is.

I wasn't speculating. I was merely asking your opinion. You are choosing to be vague for some reason.

It is quite easy to have a stance. Observe:

Zeke is the scummiest scum who ever scummed.
 

DCPat

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,170
I don't see turmoil as scum for now. I see him as the alternative for LP lynch. Led by my townread Gorlak and confirmed Panda.

Vote: nin
 
Oct 25, 2017
23,202
Let me explain that Turmoil vote on me.

Scum Turmoil said that we should look into me yesterday knowing that scum LP was up for a lynch and he wasn't the scum motion tracker. So now he can vote for me today while having it look consistent with what he said. It was a good try, buddy.
 

EzekelRAGE

Member
Nov 3, 2017
16,055
So here are my thoughts about lynching. I think DC and Turmoil are the next two we should go for obviously and I really don't care about the order. If Turmoil filps town, then the last scum is probably nin, but I think filpping Turmoil first is the safer choice. We're on the right track here, I'm guessing and I would like to stay on it
Let's do turmoil
-you notice his reaction when Stu asked about lp's posts?
- started Alexem wagon to counter faddy
- made mention of how hard it was to get lp lynched d3. Then when d4 comes and lp is getting lynched, tries to start nin train
- zbeat slip could be interesting
 

Alexem

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,335
Essex, UK
I don't see turmoil as scum for now. I see him as the alternative for LP lynch. Led by my townread Gorlak and confirmed Panda.
True, but Gorlak and GP put their votes on Turmoil quite early on - the extra votes didn't come in until Nin voted for Turmoil near EoD. Until then, those votes had just been sitting there,
 

DCPat

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,170
Chugger, are you so being set on Turmoil being scum that you are willing to vote me over him, cause I'm scum when he's scum?