BREXIT MAFIA PHASE 2 | Border-Line Insanity!

Panda is confirmed thanks to Kalor flip on D2(backfire override)

Claims
Chugger(replaced Donna on D2) - sleepwalker who randomly visits people, doesn't know who visits, the visited doesn't know either
Nin has a meme vanilla claim

That's all I think

Scum:
ET: goon
Faddy:1 shot ninja
Sophia/LP: roleblocker

And welcome

EzekelRage says he shared a chat with Fantomas on N1(Fantomas was NKd in N1)

Grizzly was a neutral survivor recruiter (nkd on n2), so chances of more neutrals are slim

Top town:panda, gorlak, gir,you(cs was into a thurderdome against ET on D1)

Top scum: Chugger, alexem, dcpat, in that order

Swamped said:

Also, just picking names out of a hat here:

Melon
AB
nin
Chuggernaut
Turmoil

Who are your top town and scum? Just trying to get a feel for the game before I dig in.

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DCPat and Turmoil are my top scum and I'm not backing down on either of those. I feel pretty good about you because CS was on all three scum filps so far. Gorlak feels pretty town also.

melonrabbit said:

I think a case can be made for Z beat today. Can't answer basic questions and won't take a stance etc. Worrying.

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I answered all of your questions. I think you were prodding around for a contradiction because you knew I was suspicious of nin and you wanted to push me into transitioning into a neutral or town on him so you could cross me up. And again, I've been questioning his stuff since the beginning of the game so I can't help but feel you're actively ignoring that to push your own goal.

turmoil7 said:

Panda is confirmed thanks to Kalor flip on D2(backfire override)

Claims
Chugger(replaced Donna on D2) - sleepwalker who randomly visits people, doesn't know who visits, the visited doesn't know either
Nin has a meme vanilla claim

That's all I think

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If you decide to do it do if right! No need for that bs just because YOU don't believe me.
Nixe way Of actively trying to sway someone who just got into the game.

Well done

Good morning, work is busy today, so I'll be around in the evening and won't have time to dig in until tomorrow this time.

Sophia's flip is interesting and worth taking a reread. She was favouring Donna, even if she said she didn't, there was something D1 and D2.

Furthermore I think there is something regarding absolutbro. He's higher on my scum list again - there was a push against me from scum. See Faddy, see Sophia and AB did one completely out of place D1 snipe post against me, which he never followed up on.

Melon read Sophia vs. me D1 as town/town. I think she might be scum. She was content for four days to tunnel Zeke without ever trying to get him really lynched. She stayed more on the sidelines. I keep coming back to my earlier reads.

D2 is interesting and we have to look at people neglecting Sophia because it was a town/town/scum situation. Turmoil was in favour of saving Sophia. Turmoil is especially readworthy now.

Unfortunately I've got far too many suspicious people on my radar. We've got probably 2 scum left. We can do this. It's worth looking for a team now, which two people would fit an ET, Faddy, Sophia team?

And my last issue for the start of the day - let's get this out of the way quickly:

EzekelRAGE
There has to be a reason why you switched from ignoring me D1, to favouring me D2 and being all reasonable with me.
I've been thinking you have a PR since that time and everyday you kept going further into anti town behaviour. Yesterday was the highlight with not caring at all about the lynch. You've been very self-centered and you throw a lot of shade around, that goes nowhere (see your hunch with Stu, that you kept going while he was obvious town). Your playstyle kept you from being nk and lynched just right enough. I think you might be a non-town role.

I can't justify a town read on you simply based on my assumption anymore. I want to see receipts. Now.

Swamped said:

Hi all! Before I dig into this game, can someone summarize all the role claims that have been made so far? And why is GP confirmed?

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This is the Claim List (thanks to Fantomas for the template).
All Confirmed roles are listed first, split between Town and Scum.
Then among the people still alive, the list is split between who has claimed and who has not.
Claims not about their own role are listed in the miscellaneous section.
All claims are in chronological order to the best of my ability.
There is a link to the post with either their Role PM if they are dead, or their claim if they are still alive.

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Confirmed Town Due To Death:
Fantomas - Ordinary - Died N1
Kalor - Backfire Override - Died D2
Stuart444 - Ordinary - Died N4

Confirmed Neutral Due To Death:
Grizzly - Mentor - Died N2

Confirmed Scum Due To Death:
ExtremeTactician - Goon - Died D1
Faddy - 1-shot Ninja - Died D3
Lone_Prodigy (Sophia) - Roleblocker - Died D4

Still Living And Role Claimed:
Nin - Ordinary - Claimed D1
CoolestSpot - Bomber Ordinary - Claimed D1, unclaimed D1, claimed again D1
TheChuggernaut (EmpressDonna) - Sleepwalker - Claimed D2

No Role Claims:
turmoil7
absolutbro
EzekelRAGE
Gorlak
Alexem
melonrabbit
Giant Panda
gir
malus (B-Dubs)
DCPat
Z-Beat

Miscellaneous Claims:
EzekelRAGE - Was invited to a night chat with Fantomas by a 3rd party - Claimed D2
CoolestSpot - Received Note that EzekelRAGE visited TheCuggernaut N2 - Claimed D3, fake D3
Giant Panda - Targeted by Backfire Override confirming him town - Targeted D2

Giant Panda said:

Still no other night chats? And we're running out of scum for it to be a scum ability. Hmm.

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How do you figure it's not a scum ability?

turmoil7 said:

Top town:panda, gorlak, gir,you(cs was into a thurderdome against ET on D1)
Nothing on Melon?

Top scum: Chugger, alexem, dcpat, in that order

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Gorlak said:

And my last issue for the start of the day - let's get this out of the way quickly:

EzekelRAGE
There has to be a reason why you switched from ignoring me D1, to favouring me D2 and being all reasonable with me.
I've been thinking you have a PR since that time and everyday you kept going further into anti town behaviour. Yesterday was the highlight with not caring at all about the lynch. You've been very self-centered and you throw a lot of shade around, that goes nowhere (see your hunch with Stu, that you kept going while he was obvious town). Your playstyle kept you from being nk and lynched just right enough. I think you might be a non-town role.

I can't justify a town read on you simply based on my assumption anymore. I want to see receipts. Now.

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What receipts would those be exactly? It's odd you bring up d1 vs d2 when I said I was busy day 1 and misread your dubs post.

Did you answer my question on why you want me dead over melon? You said you town read me and melon was null.

Gorlak also you say I threw my biggest shade to Stu when it was actually at melon. It's been at melon for the last two day phases. I chilled on Stu after the faddy flip. I can't help if melon doesn't want to answer any questions I have for her.

Acting like I didn't care about the lynch - uh that's correct. Any questions I had, had to directly do with Sophia. LP had like 1-2 posts for most of the day phase. What am I supposed to do with that?

EzekelRAGE said:

How do you figure it's not a scum ability?

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He's saying there is no evidence it's a scum ability (like you assume) and the likelihood it could be, is dropping with every scum flip.

EzekelRAGE said:

What receipts would those be exactly? It's odd you bring up d1 vs d2 when I said I was busy day 1 and misread your dubs post.
Did you answer my question on why you want me dead over melon? You said you town read me and melon was null.

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I held up my town read because I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. A huge part of that read was based on my assumption that you might be a PR and checked me. That would've explained the diffence in your behaviour.
I do not believe your explanation that you were busy. That was the case when you didn't post D1 outside of lol and interesting. I very much tried to talk with you when you started contributing D1 and you plain said scum!Brazil tried the same last game.
D2 you did a 180°.

I've shown my doubt multiple times, hinting that I think we might need to talk about you further down the line. With every day you behaved less towny, be it ignoring Faddy, going after Stu (even after the Faddy flip mate) or ignoring LP.

EzekelRAGE said:

Gorlak also you say I threw my biggest shade to Stu when it was actually at melon. It's been at melon for the last two day phases. I chilled on Stu after the faddy flip. I can't help if melon doesn't want to answer any questions I have for her.

Acting like I didn't care about the lynch - uh that's correct. Any questions I had, had to directly do with Sophia. LP had like 1-2 posts for most of the day phase. What am I supposed to do with that?

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Did melon do that? That would support my wriggling doubt that she would fit the scumteam. I'll reread as I said. I believe after Faddy flip, you still continue the both were in it together conspiracy? Am I completely off here?

Don't act like yesterday was all naught and nothing, we managed to get quite a bit of activity, reads and movement out of the day still - only you weren't interested in all of that.

Gorlak said:

Good morning, work is busy today, so I'll be around in the evening and won't have time to dig in until tomorrow this time.

Sophia's flip is interesting and worth taking a reread. She was favouring Donna, even if she said she didn't, there was something D1 and D2.

Furthermore I think there is something regarding absolutbro. He's higher on my scum list again - there was a push against me from scum. See Faddy, see Sophia and AB did one completely out of place D1 snipe post against me, which he never followed up on.

Melon read Sophia vs. me D1 as town/town. I think she might be scum. She was content for four days to tunnel Zeke without ever trying to get him really lynched. She stayed more on the sidelines. I keep coming back to my earlier reads.

D2 is interesting and we have to look at people neglecting Sophia because it was a town/town/scum situation. Turmoil was in favour of saving Sophia. Turmoil is especially readworthy now.

Unfortunately I've got far too many suspicious people on my radar. We've got probably 2 scum left. We can do this. It's worth looking for a team now, which two people would fit an ET, Faddy, Sophia team?

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It's DC and Turmoil. I'm telling you, that's who we have to lynch. Stuart had a really good post about the interactions between DC and Faddy and Turmoil is flying scum flags everywhere. Vote one of them. Let's win the game.

TheChuggernaut said:

It's DC and Turmoil. I'm telling you, that's who we have to lynch. Stuart had a really good post about the interactions between DC and Faddy and Turmoil is flying scum flags everywhere. Vote one of them. Let's win the game.

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the problem is I fail to find town so hard this game. I'm seeing suspicious stuff and scumtells everywhere °.°

I could see DCPat, the end of yesterday was odd. Town cred to Faddy, hm. I've not been paying much attention to him all game, maybe I should change that.
Vote: DCPat

I am however much more confident in gir being town now. That's something.

Gorlak said:

He's saying there is no evidence it's a scum ability (like you assume) and the likelihood it could be, is dropping with every scum flip.

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If anything it's the opposite. The further we go, the more likely that it is a scum power. There have been no more chats, which means it was a 1 shot power. If it was a town pr they would've been came out to confirm anything I said(since it's 1 shot), they haven't.
1. Scum power
2. They want the doubt to linger
——this is why I look funny at anyone who mentioned scumreading me earlier if no more chats showed up. Scum would know there would be no more chats.

Gorlak said:

I held up my town read because I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. A huge part of that read was based on my assumption that you might be a PR and checked me. That would've explained the diffence in your behaviour.
I do not believe your explanation that you were busy. That was the case when you didn't post D1 outside of lol and interesting. I very much tried to talk with you when you started contributing D1 and you plain said scum!Brazil tried the same last game.
D2 you did a 180°.

I've shown my doubt multiple times, hinting that I think we might need to talk about you further down the line. With every day you behaved less towny, be it ignoring Faddy, going after Stu (even after the Faddy flip mate) or ignoring LP.

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I explained my d1/d2 difference not going back to it.

I was the main one calling out faddy for the PR fishing, which iirc I just asked you to reread and you agreed with me.

Stu - I moved to the backburner. I made no real moves on Stu. Again I went after melon/Alex. You keep leaving that out of your summary for some odd reason

Ignoring lp - he posted 4-5 posts, half of which didn't make sense. He did nothing to defend himself, what am I suppose to do?

Everyday I've been more and more antitown? You just gave me a townread yesterday. If that's the case I should've been null at best for you.

Did melon do that?(ignore most of my case against her)- mjyeah.gif
The ONLY thing she wanted to defend was her saying I vanished before the kalor hammer. She just defended it saying "you did vanish 20 min, just like Sophia" she compared me to Sophia again on something else. Which made me think melon is scum and knows Sophia is scum and that's why she is trying to link me to her. I brought this up yesterday.

town: Giant Panda
likely town: gir, Alexem, Swamped (Coolest)
kinda towny: TheChuggernaut, nin
who the fuck knows: Z-Beat, malus
kinda scummy: EzekelRAGE, melonrabbit
likely scum: DCPat, absolutbro
scum: turmoil7

nin has been questioned by Soph, his drop in activity is probably more correlated to rl, I don't know
chugger was faddy's favourite, hard to tell, sophia has also been defending Donna - but I doubt he'd be this brazen now trying to force lynches as scum
malus is coasting, also faddy's favourite. No idea at all.
Zeke and melon have been here and not. Caring more about each other, even though game start didn't look like this would happen.

This is now. Still see AB as possible scum. Will look at the votes.

There is still the possibility you could've been lying. It looks unlikely to me, but possible. That's what GP probably wanted to imply or that you are the scum chat creator.

EzekelRAGE said:

Everyday I've been more and more antitown? You just gave me a townread yesterday. If that's the case I should've been null at best for you.

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I said my town read on you was based on my assumption of you being a PR. I did not want to question you on this before and out you. So I had to hold up my read and give you some support, otherwise you might have been in the crossfire earlier.

Gorlak said:

There is still the possibility you could've been lying. It looks unlikely to me, but possible. That's what GP probably wanted to imply or that you are the scum chat creator.


I said my town read on you was based on my assumption of you being a PR. I did not want to question you on this before and out you. So I had to hold up my read and give you some support, otherwise you might have been in the crossfire earlier.

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I already went over why me being chat creator doesn't make sense.

If you thought I was a PR and cleared you, why haven't you been backing me on melon? By that logic with the way I've been tunneling on melon you should've assumed I had something on melon. Or when I tunneled Stu on day 3.

I also found it odd that your assumption that I may or may not be a PR is reason enuff for you to let me coast on anything you deem scummy for this long.

And here we go again...

EzekelRAGE said:

I already went over why me being chat creator doesn't make sense.

If you thought I was a PR and cleared you, why haven't you been backing me on melon? By that logic with the way I've been tunneling on melon you should've assumed I had something on melon. Or when I tunneled Stu on day 3.

I also found it odd that your assumption that I may or may not be a PR is reason enuff for you to let me coast on anything you deem scummy for this long.

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I wasn't sure about you, as I said. I let you the benefit of the doubt with not highlighting your behaviour. You've been getting scummier and scummier, I sure as hell would not support any of your crazy tunnels because you changed your attitude towards me.

The whole reason I didn't bring it up was because we got scum lynch after scum lynch. By now I think we are in a good enough situation to clear this up.

Do you think I am scum?

Gorlak said:

Will look at the votes.

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I think disregarding the switches/unvotes is a disadvantage here.
turmoil voted Sophia D1 and D3, but not when she was a viable option D2. D4 he was looking for options other than lp/himself.

Gorlak said:

turmoil voted Sophia D1 and D3, but not when she was a viable option D2. D4 he was looking for options other than lp/himself.

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* not as the final vote obviously, but he considered Sophia the other days as a save place to park his vote?

Gorlak said:

I think disregarding the switches/unvotes is a disadvantage here.
turmoil voted Sophia D1 and D3, but not when she was a viable option D2. D4 he was looking for options other than lp/himself.

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Yeah, I pointed out that his voting was suspicious. On day 4 he said he scum read LP, but then just came up with excuses not to vote for him until a wagon started on himself. When Zeke pushed him on this he just kind of brushed it off too. He's also on that Alexem wagon on D3 and that wagon just smells like "Oh shit, we need another wagon otherwise Faddy is for sure getting lynched"

nin said:

Still trying to push me put eh?
Told you that the more you try to push for Nin, the more likely you will face death itself.

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I do not know this is a thing I have to worry about at the moment looking at votes, etc. + it's a pretty lame thing to say.

TheChuggernaut said:

Yeah, I pointed out that his voting was suspicious. On day 4 he said he scum read LP, but then just came up with excuses not to vote for him until a wagon started on himself. When Zeke pushed him on this he just kind of brushed it off too. He's also on that Alexem wagon on D3 and that wagon just smells like "Oh shit, we need another wagon otherwise Faddy is for sure getting lynched"

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Mhm, I went elsewhere as well yesterday, trying to give an out for scum for not voting LP, as was probably pretty obvious. But the mood was already tipped hugely against LP, I don't know how much scum would've tried to pull off. turmoil going elsewhere and DCPat not voting?

One comment Faddy left about let's lynch Alex if you all don't want Stu, read like possible bussing and trying to get town cred this way. But I agree the on and off switches were weird. So basically I agree with you, but still have doubts lingering. Alexem is probably town.

nin said:

If you decide to do it do if right! No need for that bs just because YOU don't believe me.
Nixe way Of actively trying to sway someone who just got into the game.

Well done

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I do have to agree with this. This is a bit weird.

Gorlak said:

Mhm, I went elsewhere as well yesterday, trying to give an out for scum for not voting LP, as was probably pretty obvious. But the mood was already tipped hugely against LP, I don't know how much scum would've tried to pull off. turmoil going elsewhere and DCPat not voting?

One comment Faddy left about let's lynch Alex if you all don't want Stu, read like possible bussing and trying to get town cred this way. But I agree the on and off switches were weird. So basically I agree with you, but still have doubts lingering. Alexem is probably town.

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I mean, it's possible I'm wrong, but they're both throwing up scum flags so high that I think it would be a mistake not voting for them right now, especially when we have time to make a mistake. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the one that's true. And I'm going to make the same argument I did when I pressed the LP lynch, you aren't going to want to have these two around if we get to MYLO.

And just to be clear, I'm not trying to give myself an out if they filp town. I really think we can end the game in two days if we push these lynches now.

DCPat who do you think are the remaining scum?

TheChuggernaut said:

you aren't going to want to have these two around if we get to MYLO.

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I think we are in a very fortunate position to only have one PR dead. With the scum flips it is obvious, there should be info hidden in town that we still do not need to reveal. So my hopes are high that we get something on the coasters at some point, but not necessary now.

What do you think about Zeke? And his behaviour?

Nin/turmoil is one of them. I've been aware of Nin the last couple days and yesterday with the vote on Turmoil I've found him to be more scum. When Nin is scum, I think Turmoil is town. When Nin is town I want to look more are Turmoil and AB, because then I think it could've been that it was scum vs scum and there is another good reason the lynch never took any steam. I've explained my reasoning for disliking Nin's vote yesterday. You and Panda were on the Turmoil lynch, both town to me, and I think it was the only viable option to oppose the LP lynch. It's also why I didn't vote. I was fine with the LP lynch, but I wanted to keep looking out for other options like you did, because the lynch was almost already set in the beginning of the day. Sure I could've voted last moment, but LP was the lynch anyways when the Turmoil wagon fell apart.

So I'd want to look there first, but I think afterwards remaining scum can be found in Melon, Gir or AB. Those are my top suspects after Nin.

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I think we are in a very fortunate position to only have one PR dead. With the scum flips it is obvious, there should be info hidden in town that we still do not need to reveal. So my hopes are high that we get something on the coasters at some point, but not necessary now.

What do you think about Zeke? And his behaviour?

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As of right now I read Zeke as town. I don't think him going aggression mode on anyone who reads him as scummy is very helpful, but I'm still thinking he's town right now. Things might change depending on how these days go, but I think lynching him before DC and Turmoil is a mistake.

TheChuggernaut said:

As of right now I read Zeke as town. I don't think him going aggression mode on anyone who reads him as scummy is very helpful, but I'm still thinking he's town right now. Things might change depending on how these days go, but I think lynching him before DC and Turmoil is a mistake.

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I will have ti agree with the above, ezekel has been edgy put mostly on point.

cabot said:

Stuart left a message for you.

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*shrug*

I would put my scum reads in to two pools. The first is DCPat and Turmoil, both of whose voting records I've found to be suspicious. I felt a little better about DCPat after D2 and a little better about Turmoil now, but both have been giving me the worst feeling. That said, though, I'm not sure if I could see them as scum-mates - I think it's one or the other, and right now I'd lean more towards DCPat.

The other pool would be those who seem less overtly scummy to me - in that group, I'd put Nin, AB, Melon and Z-Beat as things are. They've all been on my radar for one reason or another, but not as strongly as DCPat and Turmoil. They would be the next group that I would be looking amongst.

Zeke, for what it's worth, seems like town stuck in a tunnel to me. While I'm now more dubious of Melon's voting history myself, I don't think Zeke's obsession with lynching her - and that's how I see it = is especially helpful, considering that he seems determined to take down anyone that he perceives as getting in his way. (That's the only explanation that I can think of for his scum read on myself.) The only serious possibility that I can think of regarding him as scum would be if he and Melon were team-mates trying to put distance between themselves, as I've mentioned before.

Right now, I think I'm going to put my money where my mouth is and place a vote on DCPat.

VOTE: DCPat

Thank you all for the replies so far, it's been very helpful. Obviously I'm nowhere near caught up and missing a lot of context, but I have a couple of questions:

1. Seems like Gorlak was the only one on LP on D3. But was one of the last ones to vote for him on D4. Why is this? Did your initial scum read change overnight?

2. WHYYYY is Zeke tunneling melon again? Can you tell me in 3 bullet points or less?

Let's get the train on turmoil going too. Not sure I like his reason for his vote anyway. Just because we haven't flipped the mafia counter to sleepwalker doesn't mean they don't exist. Any other reason Chugger could be lying about his role, turmoil?

turmoil7 said:

I would choose Chugger above anyone else. Last day phase I said that his power makes little sense without a scum IV to balance the potential damage to town.

We got 3/5 of the scum team and there is none yet.

I bet that if chugger is town the two remoaner scum will coordinate so that the non IV one dies first to make him untrustworthy in the late game. He is a liability and we only loss a sleepwalker if he is town

VOTE:theChuggernaut

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VOTE: turmoil7

1 everyone kinda agreed to lynch lp and that is boring

2 *shrug*

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1 everyone kinda agreed to lynch lp and that is boring

2 *shrug*

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I see. But why wasn't Gorlak one of the first on LP on D4? He had his vote on him on D3

Swamped said:

Thank you all for the replies so far, it's been very helpful. Obviously I'm nowhere near caught up and missing a lot of context, but I have a couple of questions:

1. Seems like Gorlak was the only one on LP on D3. But was one of the last ones to vote for him on D4. Why is this? Did your initial scum read change overnight?

2. WHYYYY is Zeke tunneling melon again? Can you tell me in 3 bullet points or less?

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- day 1 she implied I had a pr imo. This leads me to believe that is the reason I was chosen for the chat with fanto.
- she tried to fish to see if I used a PR when cs did his note gambit. Her response to that was defensive.
- voting history is suspect, especially day 1.

Will respond to other posts later.

I think that a scum team with Sophia and faddy could come up with a sleepwalker fake claim (ET and Chugg are fairly new players, I think). They had a ninja so they knew we likely have a motion detector and sleepwalker is a feasible deceiful role, which could get him out of fire on d2

Swamped said:

Thank you all for the replies so far, it's been very helpful. Obviously I'm nowhere near caught up and missing a lot of context, but I have a couple of questions:

1. Seems like Gorlak was the only one on LP on D3. But was one of the last ones to vote for him on D4. Why is this? Did your initial scum read change overnight?

2. WHYYYY is Zeke tunneling melon again? Can you tell me in 3 bullet points or less?

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1. Gorlak thought it was too easy of a lynch and it made him nervous. It could be a scum tell, but I'm thinking Gorlak just overthinks things too much.

2. I dunno. Zeke has been picking weird people to tunnel this whole game

turmoil7 said:

I think that a scum team with Sophia and faddy could come up with a sleepwalker fake claim (ET and Chugg are fairly new players, I think). They had a ninja so they knew we likely have a motion detector and sleepwalker is a feasible deceiful role, which could get him out of fire on d2

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Better explanation. You're the tracker. Convenient of you not to mention that Sophia got mad at me for claiming back then.

TheChuggernaut said:

Better explanation. You're the tracker. Convenient of you not to mention that Sophia got mad at me for claiming back then.

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Sophia gets mad at everyone for claiming :p

What do you mean by me being the tracker? Role fishing?

Gorlak said:

Furthermore I think there is something regarding absolutbro. He's higher on my scum list again - there was a push against me from scum. See Faddy, see Sophia and AB did one completely out of place D1 snipe post against me, which he never followed up on.

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It wasn't a snipe. It was a question, which you gave a good answer for. What

turmoil7 said:

Sophia gets mad at everyone for claiming :p

What do you mean by me being the tracker? Role fishing?

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No I'm not role fishing, I'm scum hunting. I'm saying it would be really easy to make this argument if you were the scum tracker.

absolutbro said:

It wasn't a snipe. It was a question, which you gave a good answer for. What

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Hey, AB. Over here. Psst. You should vote for DC or Turmoil

Swamped said:

Also, just picking names out of a hat here:

Melon
AB
nin
Chuggernaut
Turmoil

Who are your top town and scum? Just trying to get a feel for the game before I dig in.

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Also welcome back!

Top scum: Turmoil and Chugg. The caveat here is that I think only one of them is scum, and I'm leaning towards Turmoil.

Top town: aside from GP who is confirmed, I'm starting to leaning town on Zeke (despite our back and forth), even if I still don't really buy the scum gossip thing. I dont want to give him too much credit for the hammer votes, since he it feels like he does it just to get the hammer vote. Beside that, Gorlak feels pretty town. Before he tagged you in, I was pretty strongly town reading CoolestSpot as well. He may have crazy gambits, but that's just a style I think.