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iAmPossum

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Oct 29, 2017
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Yet dogs are more buffoonish and lacking composure.

Indeed.

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Sonicbug

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That study also says that raccoons are just as smart as dogs, and cats and bears have about the same amount of cortical neurons. I wonder how many birds have.
 

PandaShake

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It may appear that dogs have more cortical neurons, but cat's memory cells are stacked vetically in multiplayer layers affording them much more corticals at much higher efficiency than a dog's 2d nand.
 

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Siamese are the closest thing to a dog in the cat world, they get very attached to their owners and will follow them foot to foot, and get anxious when you're not around. The single most loving, empathetic and purely good animal I've ever owned was a Siamese, and losing her this month was harder than losing any pet I've ever had to say goodbye to. We had a shorthand, a bond that was far deeper than any I've ever had with a dog. I was a wreck for the days before we had to have her put down, but even after she lost the use of her back legs and was immobilized, whenever I would start to lose it around her, she would meow and paw at me so I could lean down and let her nuzzle my chin and groom my beard. She refused to let me be sad.

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That was her a couple hours before we had to say goodbye.

Boy, this turned into a bummer of a fucking post didn't it?

I have one (kinda), and I agree 100% with this post.
 

Tackleberry

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Don't care what studies say... I'd rather have a cat.

I've seen some INCREDIBLY dumb dogs. Eat their own crap, bottles, rocks, etc.
They are basically like having a mentally deficient toddler most of the time. You can't leave the house for more than a couple hours before they decide it's time to pee and crap EVERYWHERE.


I have cats, and they are a long way from dumb. A couple I have can open doors and cabinets.

I can actually go to work without them having a meltdown.
They don't need to be walked every hour.
The Siamese we have is INCREDIBLY loyal. Always by my wife's side.

You can teach cats stuff as well?
Yes. You can teach cats tricks and such.

They also can learn by observing. We had one that liked to flush the toilet in the middle of the night
 

Carfo

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But pigs are smarter than dogs and can also fetch you some sweetass truffles

yea I stopped eatings pigs because of this. We used to own a pot belly pig as a pet, and we had to get rid of him because our dogs would nip at him and cause him to bleed, but he would patch himself up by rolling in a mound of cotton we used to have out in the garage. Pigs are incredibly intelligent and get a bad rap, mostly because of religion.
 

HStallion

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yea I stopped eatings pigs because of this. We used to own a pot belly pig as a pet, and we had to get rid of him because our dogs would nip at him and cause him to bleed, but he would patch himself up by rolling in a mound of cotton we used to have out in the garage. Pigs are incredibly intelligent and get a bad rap, mostly because of religion.

Yeah but they're secret fascists
 

Sacrilicious

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While I generally take issue with reductionist views of research (especially since intelligence is really tough to define even within a species), it's probably worth pointing out that another recent study had exactly the opposite result.

Cats have much smaller brains (25 g) than dogs (74 g), but a much higher NPD, and they therefore have almost twice as many cortical neurons (300 million) as dogs (160 million).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4685590/#!po=11.3095

And to be honest, regardless of which one really has twice as many cortical neurons as the other, intelligence is way more complicated than that when dealing with more complex brains. It's not apples-to-apples when compare how those resources are distributed in a pack animals (who need social skills, reading cues, group coordination, etc) and individualistic animals (who need curiosity, caution, self-reliance, etc).

Focusing on a single metric can be useful but boiling down a broad, many-dimensional concept like intelligence to just that one thing is misleading at best. It makes good headlines but it's not good science.
 
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Yung Coconut

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I've got an orange Tabby that we taught to fetch. He's more obsessed with it than any dog I've ever seen. I'll hide the toy in random places, and within an hour of me getting home he'll be sitting in front of the couch with it at his feet staring at me, waiting for me to throw it. He'll fetch for a good hour solid.

It really depends on the individual animal and breed. Orange Tabbies in particular are very easygoing and adaptable, and generally about as friendly as your average golden retriever. Siamese are the closest thing to a dog in the cat world, they get very attached to their owners and will follow them foot to foot, and get anxious when you're not around. The single most loving, empathetic and purely good animal I've ever owned was a Siamese, and losing her this month was harder than losing any pet I've ever had to say goodbye to. We had a shorthand, a bond that was far deeper than any I've ever had with a dog. I was a wreck for the days before we had to have her put down, but even after she lost the use of her back legs and was immobilized, whenever I would start to lose it around her, she would meow and paw at me so I could lean down and let her nuzzle my chin and groom my beard. She refused to let me be sad.

N0WOKbA.jpg


That was her a couple hours before we had to say goodbye.

Boy, this turned into a bummer of a fucking post didn't it?

I've owned Persians all of my life. They're totally people cats. Always following me around wanting attention/love, wanting to play, and cuddle. They will fetch when they feel like it, but sometimes they want me to do all of the work. They will also come running from across the house when I scream literally one of the thousand nicknames I have for them. But they're also independent. They limit how much they eat on their own, don't drop feces and urine wherever they want if I'm not around to care for them, and sometimes like some alone time. Hell, my one Persian was so easily trained. I had it so he would roll over for a belly rub on command. Cats are definitely smart.

I love the dogs I've been lucky to have, but cats are just infinitely superior imo.
 

lenovox1

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While I generally take issue with reductionist views of research (especially since intelligence is really tough to define even within a species), it's probably worth pointing out that another recent study had exactly the opposite result.



https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4685590/#!po=11.3095

And to be honest, regardless of which one really[//I] has twice as many cortical neurons as the other, intelligence is way more complicated with that when dealing with more complex brains. It's not apples-to-apples when compare how those resources are distributed in a pack animals (who need social skills, reading cues, group coordination, etc) and individualistic animals (who need curiosity, caution, self-reliance, etc).

Focusing on a single metric can be useful but boiling a broad, many-dimensional concept like intelligence down to just that is misleading at best. It makes good headlines but it's not good science.

Yeah, cats have smaller brains relative to body mass, but pack more neurons in their little brains. And, yeah, cats and dogs use their brains very differently. Both animals are intelligent in their own individual ways. =(^_^)=

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How soon they forget. Hero feline saves child from mutt.

Almost all cats are territorial ("Not in my house!") and some are incredibly nurturing.
 

tuxfool

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Oct 25, 2017
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That study also says that raccoons are just as smart as dogs, and cats and bears have about the same amount of cortical neurons. I wonder how many birds have.
Birds have quite dense levels. Their brains are small, but very capable. Particularly birds like crows, which have remarkably human brain responses at times.
 

Onebadlion

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Oct 27, 2017
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Cats are cool and all, but I don't mistake their aloof nature for intelligence. From my experience growing up around cats, they are more instinctive than dogs. My dog does dumb stuff from time to time, or everyday even, but she also learns really quickly, and shows a greater range of emotion than any cat I've ever met. I've never really doubted dogs being capable of greater intelligence than cats.
 

Mystic Vivi

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Oct 28, 2017
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Not surprised. I'm continually impressed with how my dog acts. He knows how to read me with startling accuracy. He is also very good at problem solving.

My kitty was very smart too though. Had her for like 14 years. Very independent though. I like both animals. They are awesome when paired together. Watching them clean each other and cuddle together is something I'll never forget.
 

bane833

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As a former dog and current cat owner i have to agree. Cats aren´t very smart, like at all.
 

Poppy

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my cats don't seem to learn much that isn't related to bettering their ability to get food from me, but you know i respect that kind of lifestyle
 

andrew

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anyone who says cats are superior because dogs piss and crap everywhere while cats poop in a designated box has only ever interacted with dogs with bad owners. Our dogs (goldens mostly) were all house trained very speedily and never once had an accident. and our border terrier once used the cat's litter box because it was below zero outside.

Regardless they're all idiots. the cat can't stop getting his head stuck in flower vases and the dog licks the hardwood floors.
 

Molto

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IDK about this...I've owned both and dogs seem way less intelligent. I love em both but....

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