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DC TV |OT| Welcome to the New Era
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Finally finished Season 1 of legends. Man good characters and chemistry can carry the thinnest of plots.
And props who ever frames their action set pieces, it almost covers for the dodgey cgi, almost.
Rick's actor weird leaning always makes me laugh, best Doctor Who since Tennant.
Routh needs another shot at the cape, dude was so Superman without being Superman
And props who ever frames their action set pieces, it almost covers for the dodgey cgi, almost.
Rick's actor weird leaning always makes me laugh, best Doctor Who since Tennant.
Routh needs another shot at the cape, dude was so Superman without being Superman
This applies doubly to the 2nd season, except you'll like Season 2's cast even more!
Just finished the 2nd season of Legends. It is true what they say, second season is better. And the last two episodes are great. Too bad I will have to wait until next year when the 3rd is available on Netflix in my country.
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In the crossover? You mean the JSA episode of Legends? He comes back in a future episode.
when 2 superteam meet and battle, it is always called a crossover. You should know this
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Little tidbit from Kevin Smith's Justice League review, Armen Kevorkian, the VFX guy behind all the Arrowverse shows is working on Titans as well, so it sounds like it truly is a Berlantiverse production. He also mentioned a Robin outfit, although he might have meant Nightwing.
It has quite some episodes but it is changing timeslot. It is taking over for Valor probably.
Their commercial says Tuesday, January 16. So maybe Legends might move and stay on the schedule?
Yeah, I meant Legends takes the Valor spot on Monday once that is finished
They could have a Robin outfit for flashbacks, or even as set dressing in a display case in Titans Tower.
It is going to be interesting who they bring on board or promote.
This is fantastic, they will be back to whining by January or even next week but boy is it great to see the reaction.
Stephen Amell would make an awesome Green Arrow if they just gave him the material. He has done a good job in the past years but I am still craving for a classic light-hearted Green Arrow we keep being promised.
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r/Arrow has been pathetic for a long time. It was funny at first but now it's not much better than the crazy shippers.
He'd make an even more Batman style Green Arrow than Amell. That's less and less like the traditional lol.
He'd make an even more Batman style Green Arrow than Amell. That's less and less like the traditional lol.
I know it ain't great but I would take /r/Arrow's intense salt & vinegar over people harassing Stephen and Emily on Twitter asking when they are going to get married and have children.
Also harassing Amell's own wife. You would think they would have told the writers to stop the pairing or at least tone it down after that bullshit. A lot of these Olicity shippers have shown themselves to be insane. It's one thing to really enjoy the pairing. I get that completely and more power to those people that are respectful. Some don't have a grip on reality to the point like said they want the actors to reflect the characters themselves and get really angry when they don't.
I don't really understand it, I suppose in many ways they might self-insert into Felicity because she is this awkward and kind of overshadowed character (early on at least) that when she came closer to the center stage it as like a form of wish fulfillment. You would think that with this kind of public reaction the writers would at least be encouraged to avoid it as a plot point. I know Amell wants a greater say in what happens in Arrow but with his position not being that of a producer he doesn't get much which makes it the writer's job to course correct. Which they really haven't adding more fuel to a fire that I doubt people will let go on either side of the argument. Those who hate it will hate it even more and those who love it will go further in on loving it.
This is the core of toxic fandoms. SEE ALSO: Fans unhappy with WB to the point that Johns and Whedon is getting that heat for Justice League.
They did. For the most part the pairing has been pretty light this season.
I pointed this out before, but the stronger seasons and episodes tend to be based around the drama, not the action. Arrow's subreddit thinks the core fanbase is like them, hence the switch to shows like Daredevil and Punisher when they're angry, but it actually sports a sizable female audience, many of whom like the pairing. I did a post on the old site noting that the seasons we think are stronger, aren't actually the ones with the highest ratings.
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Sadly this is true. It's not at all limited to Arrow and is a big problem on many fronts.
I don't know, if you go by IMDb ratings the consensus is closer to the nondrama related seasons. Season's one and two had very little main focus on romance with any of it that did exist being directed to Oliver and Laurel or Thea and Roy which was for the most part minimal. Season three and four were heavy with romance and neglected the rest of the main storylines which resulted in wide disapproval which Amell even came out and apologized for. Five came back and shelved the romance for most if not all of the season leaving Felicity and Oliver to form temporary romances with other characters and any drama that did come with that had to do with death of kidnapping respectively.
I couldn't say that the choices have affected viewership or not as it has gone down quite a bit but is relatively consistent. Either way you can tell there is a dropoff in quality when there is a bit more focus on elements outside of Oliver being the Green Arrow or other actionish related story points.
I don't know, if you go by IMDb ratings the consensus is closer to the nondrama related seasons. Season's one and two had very little main focus on romance with any of it that did exist being directed to Oliver and Laurel or Thea and Roy which was for the most part minimal. Season three and four were heavy with romance and neglected the rest of the main storylines which resulted in wide disapproval which Amell even came out and apologized for. Five came back and shelved the romance for most if not all of the season leaving Felicity and Oliver to form temporary romances with other characters and any drama that did come with that had to do with death of kidnapping respectively.
I couldn't say that the choices have affected viewership or not as it has gone down quite a bit but is relatively consistent. Either way you can tell there is a dropoff in quality when there is a bit more focus on elements outside of Oliver being the Green Arrow or other actionish related story points.
I'm not talking IMDB ratings. I'm talking actual viewership, which is the thing producers and networks actually care about.
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To be even more specific too, viewership within the demo, not raw numbers.
IIRC there's plenty of CBS shows that have millions of viewers that advertisers don't care about.
CW just needs to attract those money spending teens. And rabid (generally female) fanbases can be that, Supernatural is the second highest show on the network after 44 years!
The issue with these metrics is that as an audience you can't get a hold of who the show is often being made for. I still remember that Young Justice was canceled initially because CartoonNetwork claimed that it had too large a female audience and they didn't buy toys. I would imagine that the audience they are aiming for is more the tumblr and twitter fans who generate buzz beyond closed communities like Reddit or forums do.
Also, I initially read that as Supernatural running for forty-four years and while yes it has been going for a while it hasn't been that long. However, I get it now. What is their number on Smallville? Vampire Diaries? Or something older?
I used IMDb because it was an easy metric for non-critic ratings. I included raw numbers but even then they don't matter as much as Zero stated. It is just the evidence I could find to say the downward trendline is more widespread. I don't know. Shows should be made with all audiences in mind and all but they should also strive to uphold some level of quality to what their core audience expects.
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Yeah, I mean this show was the first of its kind on The CW, replacing Smallville. At that time, shows like Gossip Girl still dominated the network. I think they aimed to grab the Smallville audience but didn't really expect to change the CW's viewership so much that it's like a DC network now.
They were pretty happy with the DC shows bringing The CW closer to parity.
Now, they're hoping to keep those numbers.
First look at Brenton Thwaites as Robin from Titans. I think he is still going to be Nightwing at some point whether this a flashback or not I don't know. He looks better than I expected.
Like I said, once Legend stopped being so serious and started doing whatever, it became one of the best CW Arrowverse shows.
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If you think that's good, you should see how they work in Return of the Mack
It is a little Leverage, isn't it? They just need Timothy Hutton.
The Leverage team aren't as big fuck ups. They have a plan and they execute it perfectly. The Legends gets by on the skin of their teeth.
Legends does have a low-budget cable TV vibe though: Eureka, Warehouse 13, Dark Matter, Killjoys, etc.