US PoliERA 2018 |OT13| And now the fun starts

Box of Kittens · Dec 14, 2018

EXCLUSIVE: Bruce Rauner considered not running for reelection, tried to recruit other candidates

Bruce Rauner, in his final month as governor, revealed in an exclusive interview that he tried to convince two men and two women to run in his place this election cycle.

"And I said I'll step aside, I'll give you huge financial resources, you run for governor, I'll support you. You have as good or better chance to get elected than me. All four of them said no, too tough, too unlikely, too difficult," said Governor Bruce Rauner.

Sources say former state senator Karen McConnaughey was one of them, when reached by phone she declined to comment. Sources also say Cubs part-owner Todd Ricketts was unsuccessfully recruited by Rauner.

Apparently Attorney General nominee Erika Harold was another one of the people he tried to recruit. Also not mentioned in this story but in the Chicago Tribune is that these efforts were taking place after the primary, in which he embarrassingly squeaked by State Senator Jeanne Ives by only a three point margin, and went as late as August. Not surprisingly, no one was interested in what would essentially be taking over the Titanic after it hit the iceberg. Also in the story:

Rauner would go on to lose his reelection bid by 16 points to JB Pritzker, blaming President Trump in part for his loss.

"When President Trump won the White House, but lost Illinois by 16 points, I think 16 to 17 points, that changed the dynamic from good chance for reelection to very, very difficult chance for reelection," Rauner said.

This is just delusional. The race would've been closer in Clinton-verse, but the budget crisis doomed any re-election chances he might've had.

shadow_shogun · Dec 14, 2018

@voxdotcom
Trump's ex-campaign manager urged the president to attack the FBI, the DNC, Hillary Clinton, and the Steele dossier, according to government records and interviews with sources with knowledge of the matter.

@voxdotcom
Exclusive: Paul Manafort advised White House on how to attack and discredit investigation of President Trump https://www.vox.com/2018/12/14/18140744/paul-manafort-trump-russia-mueller-investigation?utm_campaign=vox&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter …

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AnotherNils · Dec 14, 2018

JVIDICAN said:
Let the lawsuits commence.
Did he sign the entire thing as is?

He did.

Ernest · Dec 14, 2018

cameron said:
Ben Riley-Smith @benrileysmith

NEW: George Papadopoulos, the Trump adviser jailed over Russia meddling probe, wants to run for Congress in 2020.

He tells me he is looking at seats in Orange County (Nixon's birthplace) and is already taking to donors.

Full interview: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...papadopoulos-reveals-plan-run-congress-first/ …

Yeah, after OC has finally gone Blue - good luck, asshole!

IggyChooChoo · Dec 14, 2018

JVIDICAN said:
Let the lawsuits commence.
Did he sign the entire thing as is?

Is there much hope in lawsuits sinking this thing?

Wilsongt · Dec 14, 2018

Scott Walker can get fucked. I hope this is challenged and thrown out in court.

cubanb · Dec 14, 2018

shadow_shogun said:

So the playbook he used in Ukraine....

*edit*Ah, I see this was after he was President.

LinktothePastGOAT · Dec 14, 2018

Am i alone in feeling that the end is coming soon for Trump and co.? Like I dont see him actually being the nominee in 2020.

adamsappel · Dec 14, 2018

AnotherNils said:
Didn't he get kicked off transition for having good judgement?

Trump thought Christie was "stealing his fucking money."

Surfinn said:
DO YOU WANNA BE CHIEF OF STAFF

I'm always annoyed by this picture because of the terrible job the kid is doing.

Tranqueris · Dec 14, 2018

Menelaus said:
Huh...intriguing thread.

"So how exactly did you get your hands on this pee tape Tiffany?"

AnotherNils · Dec 14, 2018

adamsappel said:
Trump thought Christie was "stealing his fucking money."

Hmm. Not how it came off at the time.

I could of swore Christie was also wary of Flynn and Bannon which is why he got ditched.

Vixdean · Dec 14, 2018

LinktothePastGOAT said:
Am i alone in feeling that the end is coming soon for Trump and co.? Like I dont see him actually being the nominee in 2020.

We're entering into uncharted territory here. Nixon was a nasty piece of work, but he engineered things from the start to where he would never face jail time. Trump and his cronies were not nearly as careful, or smart, and no one is pardoning these fucks for committing treason.

BoboBrazil · Dec 14, 2018

LinktothePastGOAT said:
Am i alone in feeling that the end is coming soon for Trump and co.? Like I dont see him actually being the nominee in 2020.

How so? He won't resign and he won't get impeached since the Senate won't do it. The presidency is the only thing protecting him and it's clear he doesn't even have to do much in the role since he doesn't give a shit and neither do Republicans.

PantherLotus · Dec 14, 2018

Manafort advising The White House to discredit the Russia investigation by having them attack the FBI and the Steele Dossier is a fucking nuclear bomb that just went off.

Deleted member 13101 · Dec 14, 2018

Even though it's clear now that if he wasn't President they'd indict him tomorrow, I think Co. will likely go first. Anyone who hasn't been given immunity from prosecution, that is. Besides Roger Stone and his direct "associates", there's only three other people (well, four) that I can think of that are left.

Menelaus · Dec 14, 2018

PantherLotus said:
Manafort advising The White House to discredit the Russia investigation by having them attack the FBI and the Steele Dossier is a fucking nuclear bomb that just went off.

I need more context as to why that would be so, if it's not provable if Trump heeded this counsel.

OG_Thrills · Dec 14, 2018

PantherLotus said:
Manafort advising The White House to discredit the Russia investigation by having them attack the FBI and the Steele Dossier is a fucking nuclear bomb that just went off.

Links please!

Iolo · Dec 14, 2018

AnotherNils said:
Murder by calf cramps

This post was too clever by calf.

Deleted member 3542 · Dec 14, 2018

LinktothePastGOAT said:
Am i alone in feeling that the end is coming soon for Trump and co.? Like I dont see him actually being the nominee in 2020.

It would be a nice Xmas gift, at least to have something really big drop and the dude straight shook.

PantherLotus · Dec 14, 2018

OG_Thrills said:
Links please!

http://www.vox.com/2018/12/14/18140744/paul-manafort-trump-russia-mueller-investigation

Paul Manafort, who served as the manager for Donald Trump's presidential campaign, provided advice to the president and senior White House officials on the FBI's Russia investigation during the earliest days of the Trump administration.

He gave guidance on how to undermine and discredit the FBI's inquiry into whether the president, his campaign aides, and family members conspired with the Russian Federation and its intelligence services to covertly defeat Hillary Clinton during the 2016 campaign, according to government records and interviews with individuals familiar with the matter.

Manafort himself was under criminal investigation by the FBI during this same time, a fact then known to the White House.

MMBosstones86 · Dec 14, 2018

adamsappel said:
Trump thought Christie was "stealing his fucking money."

I'm always annoyed by this picture because of the terrible job the kid is doing.

Oh good, so I'm not the only one then.

adamsappel · Dec 14, 2018

AnotherNils said:
Hmm. Not how it came off at the time.

I could of swore Christie was also wary of Flynn and Bannon which is why he got ditched.

Kushner hates Christie and poisoned Trump's mind against giving him a job, and Trump hates sycophants and fat people besides, but you're correct and Christie thinks that's why he was fired.

Jmdajr · Dec 14, 2018

Pretty good day so far. Wonder who will get him first. FBI....or Heart Attack.

Deleted member 13101 · Dec 14, 2018

adamsappel said:
Kushner hates Christie and poisoned Trump's mind against giving him a job, and Trump hates sycophants and fat people besides, but you're correct and Christie thinks that's why he was fired.

So basically Trump, as per usual, is using this "job search" merely as a way to try to publicly embarrass Kelly, then subsequently publicly embarrass Jared. Doubt it worked in either case.

viskod · Dec 14, 2018

The proof he took Manaforts advice is that he did everything Manafort advised him to do.

Commedieu · Dec 14, 2018

viskod said:
The proof he took Manaforts advice is that he did everything Manafort advised him to do.

Is there a record of what manafort said that was released?

Wilsongt · Dec 14, 2018

Augh. NPR running a small segment asking people who Robert Mueller was and half of them had no clue.

People in this country are hopeless...

AnotherNils · Dec 14, 2018

PantherLotus · Dec 14, 2018

Jmdajr said:
Pretty good day so far. Wonder who will get him first. FBI....or Heart Attack.

If he dies before he gets his payback, I will personally go down to hell and drag his ass back here for the entire fuckin trial.

Wilsongt · Dec 14, 2018

AnotherNils said:

These journalists are thirsty.

Wait to learn just like the rest of us plebs.

jeelybeans · Dec 14, 2018

Vixdean said:
We're entering into uncharted territory here. Nixon was a nasty piece of work, but he engineered things from the start to where he would never face jail time. Trump and his cronies were not nearly as careful, or smart, and no one is pardoning these fucks for committing treason.

You sure Trump won't be pardoned? It's still a possibility.

Iolo · Dec 14, 2018

I don't believe it was confirmed that grand jury case was Mueller-related, just speculation based on the amount of secrecy.

Piggus · Dec 14, 2018

LinktothePastGOAT said:
Am i alone in feeling that the end is coming soon for Trump and co.? Like I dont see him actually being the nominee in 2020.

It certainly feels like it, and the dems haven't even taken over the House yet. But even if he makes it to 2020, I find it extremely unlikely he'd win as a lame duck who's constantly embroiled in scandals and implicated in crimes, especially with the economy slowing down. It feels like he's on his way to prison and I can't fucking wait to see the GOP/MAGA-baby meltdown when it happens.

pirata · Dec 14, 2018

Wilsongt said:
Augh. NPR running a small segment asking people who Robert Mueller was and half of them had no clue.

People in this country are hopeless...

That'[s what you get when the country's investigative journalism industry is systematically dismantled by corporations over the course of decades. If the corporate elite thought it was in their best interest for the majority of the public to be well-informed about the issues facing the country, they would be.

Diablos · Dec 14, 2018

viskod said:
The proof he took Manaforts advice is that he did everything Manafort advised him to do.

Watch him try to say 'but Manafort told me everything was legal' as his defense

T.Rex In F-14 · Dec 14, 2018

adamsappel said:
I'm always annoyed by this picture because of the terrible job the kid is doing.

*hits table* THANK YOU

AnotherNils · Dec 14, 2018

Wilsongt said:
These journalists are thirsty.

Wait to learn just like the rest of us plebs.

The extra secrecy just riles them up more.

I certainly have no names that pop into mind as to who would merit this.

cameron · Dec 14, 2018

Hatch walks back on his "I don't care" comment.

Washington,D.C.—Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) issued the following statement about comments he made earlier this week about accusations made against President Trump:

Earlier this week in an unplanned hallway interview with CNN, I made comments about allegations against the President that were irresponsible and a poor reflection on my lengthy record of dedication to the rule of law.

While I don't believe Michael Cohen is any kind of reliable voice in this process, I have expressed confidence in Bob Mueller and his investigation countless times, including writing in the Wall Street Journal that hemust be allowed to complete his investigation. Last October, when Paul Manafort and Rick Gates were indicted, I said, "I believe that it's in the best interest for all parties involved to allow Bob Mueller to conduct a full and vigorous investigation." More recently, this August I acknowledged that the campaign finance allegations were "some serious charges, and they can't be ignored."

I continue to believe that, and when we see Mueller's full report and the complete filings from the New York U.S. Attorney's office, we can determine the path forward. While I believe the President has succeeded in a number of important policy areas, that success is separate from the validity of these investigations, which I believe should be allowed to run their course.

I also said in the unplanned hallway interview that "you can make anything a crime under the current laws." I've long believed our criminal code is simply too large. I've proposed legislation to reduce overcriminalization, simplify our criminal code, and reinvigorate criminal intent requirements. (See here, here, here, here, and here.) But at a time when faith in so many of our institutions is at an all-time low, I regret speaking imprudently. I don't believe the President broke the law, but one of the core principles of our country is that no one is above the law. That means anyone who does break the law should face appropriate consequences.

Previous statement:

Manu Raju @mkraju

Hatch dismisses allegations of Trump crimes over hush money.
Asked if he had any concerns, Hatch said: "The Democrats will do anything to hurt this president." Told it was alleged by SDNY, Hatch told me: "Okay but I don't care; all I can say is he's doing a good job as President"

AnotherNils · Dec 14, 2018

More chum in the water

Stinkles · Dec 14, 2018

AnotherNils said:
The extra secrecy just riles them up more.

I certainly have no names that pop into mind as to who would merit this.

It could be Person 2etc, but since everyone is already assuming Trump, Trump Jr and Trump Org, hard to see who it could be that isn't already well understood. I guess it's also possible to just prevent a total zoo as opposed to information itself.

JustinP · Dec 14, 2018

Wilsongt said:
These journalists are thirsty.

Wait to learn just like the rest of us plebs.

...but us plebs learn through the journalists

BWoog · Dec 14, 2018

When is Hatch's last day so that I can spit on his future grave?

Vixdean · Dec 14, 2018

jeelybeans said:
You sure Trump won't be pardoned? It's still a possibility.

Wouldn't even matter if he did, they broke NY state laws at the very least, and perhaps others with the DNC/Podesta hacking. I think the only way Trump avoids jailtime at this point is if Mueller offers him a plea bargain, the first condition of which is: stop being President.

Hiphopopotamus · Dec 14, 2018

Iolo said:
This post was too clever by calf.

That's a stretch

thefit · Dec 14, 2018

Iolo said:
I don't believe it was confirmed that grand jury case was Mueller-related, just speculation based on the amount of secrecy.

Politico and buzzfeed are reporting that it is because it's the same grand jury that was being done in secret during the midterms the one where the only Trump apointed judge had to recuse himself.

BoboBrazil · Dec 14, 2018

Mueller going global.

Autodidact · Dec 14, 2018

BoboBrazil said:
Mueller going global.

~~~globalist~~~

PantherLotus · Dec 14, 2018

OH man, imagine a Junior indictment coming down.

Thought for consumption: Imagine the Trump family turning on itself. Would Junior or Ivanka -- with actual lives ahead of them -- turn on dad to stay out of jail? Would she turn on Jared to protect her children? The mind wanders.

shiba5 · Dec 14, 2018

Wonderment said:
So basically Trump, as per usual, is using this "job search" merely as a way to try to publicly embarrass Kelly, then subsequently publicly embarrass Jared. Doubt it worked in either case.

He's really only embarrassing himself.

random_polymath · Dec 14, 2018

AnotherNils said:
More chum in the water

Think about it.....that was a FISA Court hearing. That would explain all the secrecy behind it.

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