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Study shows dogs are smarter than cats
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Neither can beat crows, though.
You can actually train a dog to do that. I've trained my dog to prefer shitting in run-off ditches if there's one around.
From a cognitive standpoint, it's not very surprising.
With that said, cats are way more complex than what people assume. Even the way they communicate emotions...
I mean, because of what one my cats had to go through when he was very young, he has developed a food-related anxiety. The bowl can't be empty and he calls me (he comes and wants me to follow him) just to watch over him while he eats. If I go away he comes running and meows until I just stay there while he eats.
Oh, and I can play fetch with him too... I never had to teach him though. But unless I hide that stupid toy, he keeps dropping it on my lap to the point of driving me mad. He also knows how to open doors.
Cats are smarter and way more loving animals than what people assume (it's not "in your face" like dogs)...
With that said, cats are way more complex than what people assume. Even the way they communicate emotions...
I mean, because of what one my cats had to go through when he was very young, he has developed a food-related anxiety. The bowl can't be empty and he calls me (he comes and wants me to follow him) just to watch over him while he eats. If I go away he comes running and meows until I just stay there while he eats.
Oh, and I can play fetch with him too... I never had to teach him though. But unless I hide that stupid toy, he keeps dropping it on my lap to the point of driving me mad. He also knows how to open doors.
Cats are smarter and way more loving animals than what people assume (it's not "in your face" like dogs)...
Cats can produce 100 different sounds. Dogs only 10.
As long as you have it on a leash. Or else dog will ignore you and run to other dogs or wherever he/she wants.
I have a cat that would follow me for quite a distance and would run towards me if I sneaked far away.
As long as you have it on a leash. Or else dog will ignore you and run to other dogs or wherever he/she wants.
I have a cat that would follow me for quite a distance and would run towards me if I sneaked far away.
ITT: personal opinions mean more than the study's findings.
If the research shows that higher cortical neuron count directly relates to cognitive ability, then by that lone this shows that dogs hold more cognitive ability than cats implying they are "smarter". I remember reading another study before which linked higher neuron count to improved social and emotional ability between animals so I'm guessing this is the case with dogs vs cats. Sure dogs may do more silly things then cats, but there have also been plenty of studies suggesting that dogs have more social and emotional development than cats.
If the research shows that higher cortical neuron count directly relates to cognitive ability, then by that lone this shows that dogs hold more cognitive ability than cats implying they are "smarter". I remember reading another study before which linked higher neuron count to improved social and emotional ability between animals so I'm guessing this is the case with dogs vs cats. Sure dogs may do more silly things then cats, but there have also been plenty of studies suggesting that dogs have more social and emotional development than cats.
Nice! Here is my girl Kendra "guarding" my front door
Dawww. I fell in love with Mals the first time I saw one. They're so cuddly
dogs are real smart but cats are too. they could probably do what dogs do like sit, roll ever, play dead, help the disabled, work in the police/military, but cats just don't care for that life. all they care about is pooping, sleeping, and fucking your shit up for no real reason.
i had 3 cats for ~20 years and love them. i'm torn now between getting another cat or a dog. i love them both.
i had 3 cats for ~20 years and love them. i'm torn now between getting another cat or a dog. i love them both.
This is ERA (which is basically GAF). We base things on intuition here. Research is only valid when its in line with one's opinion.
Keeping with such a tradition, through my own intuition, I have concluded cat owners rely more on intuition than research based on a study.
This is probably a joke but just in case you meant it, dogs don't do that beyond being a newborn puppy, and they shit wherever you teach them to.
Cats are only mildly perturbed because they don't give a fuck about you as long as they have food (not all of them but in general).
Taking this into account, that would mean Donald Trump have about 10 billion cortical neurons while my cat only have 250 million. Yet, i'm fairly convinced my cat is smarter than him. Therefore, this isn't proof of anything. :p
Dogs are like slaves with Stockholm syndrome.
Cats are like teenagers (sleeping all the time, don't give a shit what you want, pretends not to like you, etc etc).
I'll always prefer cats (and they are clean by themselves, wich is victory by KO in my book).
I love my cat to death but this much has always been obvious. There is a reason people get big dogs for safety but feel unsafe around a big cat. It's a shame too because having a tiger as a pet would be awesome if it was as trustworthy as a dog.
I had my dog trained pretty good and he would never run to another dog if I told him stay. Even if you can tell he really wanted too.
Lol, people act as if one of them is capable of doing rocket science. Love'em both, but both are dumb af.
Dog sitting in front of a supermarket, waiting for master:
Monday:"He won't come back, right?....oh, no please....tell me he will come back"
Tuesday: "He won't come back, right?....oh, no please....tell me he will come back"
Wednesday: "He won't come back, right?....oh, no please....tell me he will come back"
If that's the standard for intelligence.... dunno. Cats may be less intelligent, but they are leagues better at making us humans look stupid.
Dog sitting in front of a supermarket, waiting for master:
Monday:"He won't come back, right?....oh, no please....tell me he will come back"
Tuesday: "He won't come back, right?....oh, no please....tell me he will come back"
Wednesday: "He won't come back, right?....oh, no please....tell me he will come back"
If that's the standard for intelligence.... dunno. Cats may be less intelligent, but they are leagues better at making us humans look stupid.
Dogs eating their own shit is a different problem and nothing that someone should ignore. It means there is seriously something up and missing.
Had both all my life. To be honest I wouldn't really be able to 100% tell who is more intelligent, because cats are on their own and just don't give a fuck about you most of the time where as dogs are a little bit different. I also have a Borde Collie and Golden Retriever who are absolutely amazing and sometimes a bit too intelligent. The Border Collie is easily able to distract people so that she can do something she wants (and is not supposed to be) or get something yummy like Mettbrötchen >:D
But both of them also wandered around a little village in Austria without my parents around and where always back at evening like they had their own life where as I wouldn't let my cats out after both of them fought with other cats around the area.
My dog asks to go outside so I don't have to pick up it's shit. GG no re.
running away from danger at breakneck pace is a hell of a lot smarter than getting sad about things
We didn't really need a study to prove this did we.
Cats could be labeled as furniture as far as I'm concerned, they do absolutely nothing for 23,5 hours a day.
Cats could be labeled as furniture as far as I'm concerned, they do absolutely nothing for 23,5 hours a day.
i have two and they def wrestle for an hour a day and spend an hour running around in the dark for no reason at all
In terms of motor survival mechanisms yes, not in terms of complex interconnected brain activity.
Compare it to a human. If a dude or family member screamed aggressively at you on the street (daytime, other people around etc), you wouldn't turn tail and run immediately. You'd be shocked, probably stressed, and it would fuck your mood for the rest of the day.
Cf. dogs.
That cat is a hero
How soon they forget. Hero feline saves child from mutt.
Bullshit. That's bad training/owners/discipline - which unfortunately account for 95% of dog owners.
Treat your dog carefully and discipline it, and it will never run away or be unruly. None of our dogs have ever done this and we barely need leads. (Unless some.proper scary shit happens, like an explosion.)
Hating on BR2049? One more piece of evidence why cat-stans are the worst.
Interesting study.
Speaking in much broader and non-scientific terms the question of what constitutes intelligence is also an interesting one. Including in humans. Ability to learn? Being able to recite stuff like a dictionary? Being able to perform advanced reasonings? Speaking many languages? Being able to convincingly play roles? Leading groups of people?
Speaking in much broader and non-scientific terms the question of what constitutes intelligence is also an interesting one. Including in humans. Ability to learn? Being able to recite stuff like a dictionary? Being able to perform advanced reasonings? Speaking many languages? Being able to convincingly play roles? Leading groups of people?
The study is what the study is, but I've always found it odd that there's this brand loyalty between cats and dogs. Like people actively hate one over the other, when you get the pet that suits your personality/lifestyle. I'm a cat person, but dogs are cool too. I'll never own one because time/energy, but I can appreciate them.
That's fine but it's semantic. I also don't consider myself the "owner" of the 10+ dogs we've had live here over the years but literally in the eyes of society and law they're "your" animal.
It's bullshit and ethically we should never own, trade, train, hunt or breed animals but that's how things stand today.
This is basically a semantic derail anyway. It's convenient language. What would YOU say to someone you just met? "I cohabit with a cat"???
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One of my cats is like that, I was so amazed the first time it happened since my other cat is like "nope, you come over her and pick up this ball and throw it so I can chase after it or imma stare at you for the rest of the day from this corner, human!"
This one though, I wake up in the morning and my bed has like 3 or 4 balls in it because she brought them during the night expecting to get some playtime.
That's true of many breeds, but don't assume good recall is universal. Some breeds, particularly sled dog breeds, are known for their poor recall. All responsible husky trainers for instance, know better than to tell you it's ever safe to let your husky off the leash in an unenclosed area.
100%. I've had to carefully explain to a bunch of people over the years why they shouldn't get a husky or similar breed if they're a new/inexperienced dog owner.
Sometimes you've got to speak in generalisations to get a point on a forum across clearly.
That a nice idea!
Whenever I see someone take a walk with a dog I dont say, the owner took the dog out for a walk, but the opposite. The dog took his owner out for a walk
What if cats actually fight some beings invisible to us humans (and dogs) at night? Like bed-trolls, the tooth fairy or Santa's elves?
Cordwainer Smith wrote about something similar: The Game of Rat and Dragon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_of_Rat_and_Dragon
I really have no idea why some cats are like that. The cat is clearly able to attribute agency to the toy-thrower (i.e., the person who is also probably the cat food dispenser) and is also able to establish a causal relationship between the "flungee" and the "flunger". My other two cats usually run on the spot before skidding off and murdering the toy... but they aren't able to see me as a glorified tennis ball shooter like the other one does.
To me it's a definitive sign of superior intelligence...
I haven't read the article, so I'm not sure if they mention this... but you might be interested in the "encephalization quotient". It's a measure that describes the divergence between the actual brain mass and the expected brain mass for a given body size.
*opens Wikipedia*
It says that a cat is 1.0, a dog is slightly above the expected value (1.17) and humans are 7.44. A rabbit is way below average (0.4).
Here's a graph:
In order to fit a huge brain in a tiny skull, you need gyrification (the process of creating folds during development). A mouse has a smooth brain, for example.
In any case, size isn't everything... like you said it's also how many neurons (gray matter) you have, the number of connections (white matter) and how well they're connected (e.g., the squid's axons lack myelin, which is the insulating sheath that improves connectivity)...
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