Media Create Sales: Week 51, 2018 (Dec 17 - Dec 23)

Deleted member 37917 · Dec 27, 2018

UltraMagnus said:
Lets be honest, Nintendo will likely drop Labo like a bad habit and never look back.

I remember a lot of the "Wii Music wasn't a big hit, but there's potential here, Nintendo should totally do Wii Music 2" ... yeah they couldn't run away faster from that idea.

Nintendo loves to throw their weight behind "crazy" ideas, but they can also be remarkably cold to something if it doesn't become a hit the way they expected.

The other big problem with Labo and I suspect Nintendo is getting an earful about it from retailers is the packaging is so huge it takes up a ton of retail space and that is not a small problem.

The main difference for me is that Wii Music absolutely sucked.

MasterChumly · Dec 27, 2018

Did Nintendo reveal a release date for the gun kit? I wonder if they just bury Labo at this point and never release it.

MANUELF · Dec 27, 2018

I expected better sales for Labo on holidays but I also expected Nintendo to promote them these months but they never did

WestEgg · Dec 27, 2018

UltraMagnus said:
Is a gun kit really a great idea? The sight of kids building cardboard guns with the way the gun violence issue is in the US ... Nintendo might be better off just leaving that concept in their R&D lab.

It really wouldn't be a big deal, especially if the guns are unrealistic. Nerf guns and the like sell very well without issue.

srtrestre · Dec 27, 2018

Vinnk said:
Yes, you remember correctly.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/la...boost-switch-sales.39183/page-10#post-7328460

lmao what a twist

MysticGon · Dec 27, 2018

Kouriozan said:
I wonder how much of the hardware forecast bet on Labo, even sales analysts bet it would do really well back at reveal because it's so Nintendo.

It has met Nintendo's sales expectations so far but they also expect sales to pick up during the holidays so who knows.

Chris1964 · Dec 27, 2018

UltraMagnus said:
Is a gun kit really a great idea? The sight of kids building cardboard guns with the way the gun violence issue is in the US ... Nintendo might be better off just leaving that concept in their R&D lab.

They won't have a real gun for shooting. Splatoon has guns too.

Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule · Dec 27, 2018

I think the problem with labo was that the pack 2 and 3 weren't half as good as the first one.

sfortunato · Dec 27, 2018

ILikeFeet said:
I wouldn't consider 2.65M a bomb, but I guess when you're supposed to be in the same light as Wii Sports and Resort, it is a mega bomb.

Thanks. It seems the game is on its way (perhaps already really close considering eShop sales).

SinCityAssassin · Dec 27, 2018

Kouriozan said:
Time to rename those weekly threads Famitsu Sales :P

Dengeki Sales Report Week 52 Thread by Chris1964.

Gotdatmoney · Dec 27, 2018

SinCItyAssassin said:
Dengeki Sales Report Week 52 Thread by Chris1964.

According to Dengeki if I read it correctly they have Switch hardware under 3m currently So prob not :P

SinCityAssassin · Dec 27, 2018

Gotdatmoney said:
According to Dengeki if I read it correctly they have Switch hardware under 3m currently So prob not :P

Denmedia Charmitsu Sales Report Week 52

Chris1964 · Dec 27, 2018

Week 52 report will be out at Wednesday 9 January for Famitsu and Thursday 10 January for Media Create. Media Create will likely have week 1 report together.

Guaraná · Dec 27, 2018

Chris1964 said:
Week 52 report will be out at Wednesday 9 January for Famitsu and Thursday 10 January for Media Create. Media Create will likely have week 1 report together.

that's so sad. :(

anyway, with Switch hitting above 300k in both Famitsu and Degenki, how do we stand in the DOOM & GLOOM narrative?

hiska-kun · Dec 27, 2018

*Guaraná said:
that's so sad. :(

anyway, with Switch hitting above 300k in both Famitsu and Degenki, how do we stand in the DOOM & GLOOM narrative?

The narrative wasn't Switch to just barely hit 300k (and sell even less than last year on Famitsu). But to sell well over 300k, more like 350k.

So almost nothing changed.

Guaraná · Dec 27, 2018

hiska-kun said:
The narrative wasn't Switch to just barely hit 300k (and sell even less than last year on Famitsu). But to sell well over 300k, more like 350k.

So almost nothing changed.

WTF 350k?

People should start lowing their hype because this is getting ridiculous.

I predicted 310k and I thought I was being waaaay too much optimistic.

Deleted member 2791 · Dec 27, 2018

*Guaraná said:
WTF 350k?

People should start lowing their hype because this is getting ridiculous.

I predicted 310k and I thought I was being waaaay too much optimistic.

It wasn't ridiculous or even remotely optimistic to think that it could reach around 350k. Following a traditional sales curve for the holiday period it's what it led to.

People should maybe do more researches before claiming that someone else's prediction is ridiculous.

hiska-kun · Dec 27, 2018

*Guaraná said:
WTF 350k?

People should start lowing their hype because this is getting ridiculous.

I predicted 310k and I thought I was being waaaay too much optimistic.

What happened this year is a first thing in historical data if you check past years. Lowest increase in week 51 ever.

ZSaberLink · Dec 27, 2018

Dengeki Online Sales: Week 51, 2018 (Dec 17 - Dec 23)

01./01. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} - 433,000 / 2,097,319
02./04. [NSW] Super Mario Party (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} - 132,800 / 679,684
03./00. [PS4] Dragon Quest Builders 2 (Square Enix) {2018.12.20} - 108,141 / NEW
04./00. [NSW] Dragon Quest Builders 2 (Square Enix) {2018.12.20} - 101,024 / NEW
05./05. [NSW] Pokemon: Let's Go, Pikachu! (Pokemon Co.) {2018.11.16} - 81,250 / 665,671
06./06. [NSW] Pokemon: Let's Go, Eevee! (Pokemon Co.) {2018.11.16} - 58,931 / 530,411
07./07. [NSW] Minecraft (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} - 52,897 / 521,051
08./02. [PS4] Judgment (Sega) {2018.12.13} - 40,769 / 186,843
09./08. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} - 38,294 / 1,900,827
10./09. [NSW] Splatoon 2 (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} - 34,782 / 2,804,875
11./03. [PS4] God Eater 3 (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.12.13} - 25,022 / 168,879
12./00. [PS4] Onimusha: Warlords (Capcom) {2018.12.20} - 20,869 / NEW
13./11. [NSW] Kirby Star Allies (Nintendo) {2018.03.16} - 16,244 / 691,804
14./12. [NSW] Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum 'n' Fun! (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.07.19} - 16,028 / 273,424
15./10. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey (Nintendo) {2017.10.27} - 15,544 / 1,773,743
16./00. [PS4] Super Neptunia RPG (Compile Heart) {2018.12.20} - 14,900 / NEW
17./13. [3DS] Luigi's Mansion (Nintendo) {2018.11.08} - 13,389 / 76,683
18./16. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} - 11,650 / 901,441
19./00. [NSW] Katamari Damacy Reroll (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.12.20} - 10,693 / NEW
20./00. [NSW] Onimusha: Warlords (Capcom) {2018.12.20} - 10,097 / NEW
21./23. [NSW] Mario Tennis Aces (Nintendo) {2018.06.22} - 9,228 / 388,603
22./20. [NSW] Super Run For Money Tousouchuu & Super Battle For Money Sentouchuu Double Pack (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.11.29} - 7,672 / 19,395
23./26. [NSW] FIFA 19 (Electronic Arts) {2018.09.28} - 7,622 / 52,649
24./32. [NSW] Dragon Ball FighterZ (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.09.27} - 7,350 / 65,403
25./24. [NSW] Nintendo Labo Toy-Con 03: Drive Kit (Nintendo) {2018.09.14} - 6,928 / 49,144
26./25. [NSW] Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker (Nintendo) {2018.07.13} - 6,628 / 164,282
27./31. [3DS] Mario Party: The Top 100 (Nintendo) {2017.12.28} - 6,456 / 240,877
28./33. [3DS] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS (Nintendo) {2014.09.13} - 6,378 / 2,500,952
29./30. [NSW] Sumikko Gurashi: Atsumare! Sumikko Town (Nippon Columbia) {2018.10.04} - 6,117 / 27,098
30./27. [NSW] Nintendo Labo Toy-Con 01: Variety Kit (Nintendo) {2018.04.20} - 5,917 / 232,644
31./17. [PS4] Call of Duty: Black Ops IIII (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2018.10.12} - 5,688 / 492,597
32./34. [NSW] Pro Baseball Famista Evolution (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.08.02} - 5,589 / 117,463
33./35. [3DS] Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker (Nintendo) {2018.07.13} - 5,372 / 82,515
34./28. [NSW] Kamen Rider: Climax Scramble Zi-O (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.11.29} - 5,306 / 26,600
35./00. [NSW] Kunio-Kun: The World Classics Collection (Arc System Works) {2018.12.20} - 5,113 / NEW
36./14. [PS4] Battlefield V (Electronic Arts) {2018.11.20} - 4,806 / 148,097
37./39. [3DS] WarioWare Gold (Nintendo) {2018.08.02} - 4,744 / 135,646
38./00. [PS4] Kunio-Kun: The World Classics Collection (Arc System Works) {2018.12.20} - 4,731 / NEW
39./38. [3DS] Cats Together (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.11.21} - 4,656 / 15,432
40./40. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Welcome amiibo (Nintendo) {2016.11.23} - 4,350 / 399,761
41./36. [3DS] Pokemon Ultra Sun (Pokemon Co.) {2017.11.17} - 4,211 / 886,587
42./29. [PS4] Winning Eleven 2019 (Konami) {2018.08.30} - 3,967 / 146,353
43./21. [NSW] Fortnite (Warner Entertainment Japan) {2018.12.13} - 3,783 / 8,090
44./43. [3DS] Pokemon Ultra Moon (Pokemon Co.) {2017.11.17} - 3,733 / 858,816
45./50. [NSW] ARMS (Nintendo) {2017.06.16} - 3,700 / 467,878
46./51. [NSW] 1-2-Switch (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} - 3,433 / 492,701
47./19. [PS4] Just Cause 4 (Square Enix) {2018.12.06} - 3,381 / 26,400
48./58. [3DS] Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS (Nintendo) {2016.12.01} - 2,978 / 1,189,370
49./54. [NSW] Cats Together (Bandai Namco Games) {2018.11.01} - 2,728 / 13,670
50./57. [NSW] Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (Nintendo) {2018.05.03} - 2,706 / 232,250

SOFTWARE

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| Model | This Week | Week(%)  | FY 2018     | FY(%)   |
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| Switch| 1,164,601 | 73.1%    | 10,026,128  | 53.8%   |
| PS4   | 300,824   | 18.9%    | 6,126,460   | 32.8%   |
| 3DS   | 115,438   | 7.3%     | 1,745,556   | 9.4%    |
| PSV   | 9,494     | 0.6%     | 680,935     | 3.7%    |
| ETC   | 1,744     | 0.1%     | 71,069      | 0.4%    |
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| Total | 1,592,101 | 100.0%   | 18,650,148  | 100.0%  |
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HARDWARE

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| Model | This Week | Week(%)  | FY 2018     | FY(%)   |
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| Switch| 311,402   | 74.1%    | 2,724,767   | 66.5%   |
| PS4   | 80,369    | 19.1%    | 929,817     | 22.7%   |
| 3DS   | 24,762    | 5.9%     | 340,346     | 8.3%    |
| PSV   | 3,203     | 0.8%     | 93,650      | 2.3%    |
| ETC   | 781       | 0.2%     | 7,126       | 0.2%    |
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| Total | 420,517   | 100.0%   | 4,095,706   | 100.0%  |
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Dengeki Online Sales: Week 50, 2018 (Dec 10 - Dec 16)

Vinnk · Dec 27, 2018

ZSaberLink said:
35./00. [NSW] Kunio-Kun: The World Classics Collection (Arc System Works) {2018.12.20} - 5,113 / NEW
38./00. [PS4] Kunio-Kun: The World Classics Collection (Arc System Works) {2018.12.20} - 4,731 / NEW

Another day and date 3rd multiplatform release doing better on the Switch. Who will be the first to tell me why it doesn't count? ;)

Chris1964 · Dec 27, 2018

Kouriozan said:
I wonder how much of the hardware forecast bet on Labo, even sales analysts bet it would do really well back at reveal because it's so Nintendo.

I think Switch hardware forecast is an obsession that exists only in this forum and the mind of some "analysts" but since it was Labo day today, it's a last chance for it to be heard again before Nintendo abandons it for ever.

Fire Emblem and Yoshi missed CY and one or both of them will miss FY too
Nintendo online was delayed from its original target and with it some games
Labo failed to achieve Nintendo's target
No price drop for Japan, just one day cheaper Mario Kart 8 bundle for US and holidays cheaper Mario Kart 8 bundle for Europe.

With all these circumstances, unlucky and intentional, software target will be beaten handily and the worst scenario for hardware is that it will be missed for 1m.
If Nintendo was so insecure for these 20m as some think they would move at drastic actions but their actions show they are very confident they'll come close and even if they miss it by a little they hardly care when revenue and profits will explode this year.

Peleo · Dec 27, 2018

ARMS almost at 500k. Pretty good resukt for JP.

ILikeFeet · Dec 27, 2018

Peleo said:
ARMS almost at 500k. Pretty good resukt for JP.

I hope that it lives on somehow. the characters, the music, it's all too good to let die

fourfourfun · Dec 27, 2018

Labo doesn't need to follow the traditional sales curve and I'm surprised it was expected to follow the big bang scenario.

SinCityAssassin · Dec 27, 2018

ILikeFeet said:
I hope that it lives on somehow. the characters, the music, it's all too good to let die

We're still getting that Darkhorse graphic novel series next year.

Pokémon · Dec 27, 2018

ILikeFeet said:
I hope that it lives on somehow. the characters, the music, it's all too good to let die

I definitely agree. Give it more content, a story mode and more characters and we have a nice sequel.

Man God · Dec 27, 2018

Vinnk said:
Another day and date 3rd multiplatform release doing better on the Switch. Who will be the first to tell me why it doesn't count? ;)

Old games, statistical noise. Doesn't account for those waiting for PS+. Cold weather in Tokyo kept Sony fans home.

Fisico · Dec 27, 2018

Gotdatmoney said:
According to Dengeki if I read it correctly they have Switch hardware under 3m currently So prob not :P

Dengeki uses Fiscal year, so that 2.7M number doesn't count Jan Feb and March sales

Andromeda · Dec 27, 2018

35./00. [NSW] Kunio-Kun: The World Classics Collection (Arc System Works) {2018.12.20} - 5,113 / NEW
38./00. [PS4] Kunio-Kun: The World Classics Collection (Arc System Works) {2018.12.20} - 4,731 / NEW

Vinnk said:
Another day and date 3rd multiplatform release doing better on the Switch. Who will be the first to tell me why it doesn't count? ;)

Do those count ?

03./00. [PS4] Dragon Quest Builders 2 (Square Enix) {2018.12.20} - 108,141 / NEW
04./00. [NSW] Dragon Quest Builders 2 (Square Enix) {2018.12.20} - 101,024 / NEW

12./00. [PS4] Onimusha: Warlords (Capcom) {2018.12.20} - 20,869 / NEW
20./00. [NSW] Onimusha: Warlords (Capcom) {2018.12.20} - 10,097 / NEW

cw_sasuke · Dec 27, 2018

Andromeda said:
Do those count ?

I dont think that post was meant to be taken serious considering the difference was a only couple hundred units.

DarkDetective · Dec 27, 2018

Vinnk said:
Another day and date 3rd multiplatform release doing better on the Switch. Who will be the first to tell me why it doesn't count? ;)

400 units is statistical noise :v

/s but there have also been a couple of NSW+PS4 releases where PS4 version opened higher, such as Warriors Orochi 4 or even DQB2. Let's just say the combination of NSW and PS4 is healthy for third-parties. :)

ILikeFeet · Dec 27, 2018

SinCItyAssassin said:
We're still getting that Darkhorse graphic novel series next year.

I forgot all about that. did they ever make the FCBD short available online?

Vinnk · Dec 27, 2018

Andromeda said:
Do those count ?

Sorry I thought the wink would be enough of an indicator. I'm not being serious about 400 units.

DrWong · Dec 27, 2018

SinCItyAssassin said:
Dengeki Sales Report Week 52 Thread by Chris1964.

Comgnet Points Report Week 52 Thread by Chris1964.

Freedom and creativity in sales threads, Finally!

Sadist · Dec 27, 2018

I never understood the obsession for the twenty million goal for Switch by Era or some analysts. Even if Nintendo misses out by one or maybe even two million, Switch sales went up and their software sales are fantastic.

"We missed our hardware goal, but perhaps we were a bit too ambitieus with that goal. Thanks to our sales of the hardware still being fantastic and we hitting our software target 2018 proved to be a great year. For 2019 we are aiming for twenty million again, but we have extra plans to reach this particular goal."

Done.

Chris1964 · Dec 27, 2018

It's likely Captain Toad Switch will join million seller club this quarter. 3DS version must be around half million but it's doubtful numbers will be given for it.

Octopath Traveler at west remains a question. First of its two chances is approaching.

This will be another quarter of many updates.

silpheed-mcd · Dec 27, 2018

ZSaberLink said:
46./51. [NSW] 1-2-Switch (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} - 3,433 / 49,595

Dengeki, dengeki...

ACL · Dec 27, 2018

Sadist said:
I never understood the obsession for the twenty million goal for Switch by Era or some analysts. Even if Nintendo misses out by one or maybe even two million, Switch sales went up and their software sales are fantastic.

"We missed our hardware goal, but perhaps we were a bit too ambitieus with that goal. Thanks to our sales of the hardware still being fantastic and we hitting our software target 2018 proved to be a great year. For 2019 we are aiming for twenty million again, but we have extra plans to reach this particular goal."

Done.

Switch is selling well, Nintendo not reaching a very ambitious sales target is seen as a good excuse to downplay overall positive results.

Chris1964 · Dec 27, 2018

The code of 1-2-Switch at Dengeki is close with this game that is charting and they have mixed the names but so far no one had realized the mistake.

hiska-kun · Dec 27, 2018

It seems everybody in Japan forgot that today was Mario & Luigi RPG launch.

DarkDetective · Dec 27, 2018

Vinnk said:
Sorry I thought the wink would be enough of an indicator. I'm not being serious about 400 units.

400 units represents almost 10% of sales, so maybe we actually are.

nah, not really

Deleted member 2791 · Dec 27, 2018

hiska-kun said:
It seems everybody forgot Mario & Luigi RPG

true

Deleted member 8593 · Dec 27, 2018

20m is the "what about her e-mails" of gaming side and you can quote me on that

Mpl90 · Dec 27, 2018

hiska-kun said:
It seems everybody in Japan forgot that today was Mario & Luigi RPG launch.

Yeah, the game on Amazon.co.jp is just 129th, quite outside of Top 100. And while it's the Holiday period, thus being 129th right now can mean more sales than usual, it will still lead to quite low sales.

It'll be quite funny to see the deluxe / remake version of the best selling Mario & Luigi game getting easily outsold by *checks Amazon rankings*

- the late port of the complete edition of Diablo III
- God Eater 3's third week on the market
- Go Vacation and...Katamari Damacy's second week (...?)

julian · Dec 27, 2018

Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule said:
I think the problem with labo was that the pack 2 and 3 weren't half as good as the first one.

Wait really? I thought people thought pack 3 was far better. I haven't played that one, but thought that was the sentiment.

Honestly, I think if anything should be free included software, it's the Labo Garage. Sell the kits individually and push the wheel and motorcycle as cheap Mario Kart controllers and let people download instructions as DLC.

ZSaberLink · Dec 27, 2018

silpheed-mcd said:
Dengeki, dengeki...

Huh, you're right and I translated that correctly (Dengeki just has it at 49K). Weird.... I'm guessing it's 495K?

sfortunato · Dec 27, 2018

Even if Switch FW sales might be lower than PS4 FW sales, legs are often better to the point that LTD might turn out to be very close if not greater.

Just look at FIFA 2019.

Chris1964 said:
It's likely Captain Toad Switch will join million seller club this quarter. 3DS version must be around half million but it's doubtful numbers will be given for it.

At this point Nintendo can fill line-up gaps by porting every Wii U game on Switch. In 2019, late Winter, Summer and mid-Autumn might be used to release such games and collect sales here and there. Pikmin, Xenoblade, Kirby, Star Fox Zero---well, there's not much left but still some nice addition to Switch line-up.

Raguy · Dec 27, 2018

Chris1964 said:
I think Switch hardware forecast is an obsession that exists only in this forum and the mind of some "analysts" but since it was Labo day today, it's a last chance for it to be heard again before Nintendo abandons it for ever.

Fire Emblem and Yoshi missed CY and one or both of them will miss FY too
Nintendo online was delayed from its original target and with it some games
Labo failed to achieve Nintendo's target
No price drop for Japan, just one day cheaper Mario Kart 8 bundle for US and holidays cheaper Mario Kart 8 bundle for Europe.

With all these circumstances, unlucky and intentional, software target will be beaten handily and the worst scenario for hardware is that it will be missed for 1m.
If Nintendo was so insecure for these 20m as some think they would move at drastic actions but their actions show they are very confident they'll come close and even if they miss it by a little they hardly care when revenue and profits will explode this year.

Totally agree with you.
Last year, 15,05 M switch hardware were shipped + 63.51 million units software.
And 6,40 M 3ds hardware were shipped + 35.64 million units software.

If, in this quarter Nintendo ships 19 M switch hardware and 2,5 M 3ds hardware. It's better than last year.
And 100 millions software on Switch + 12-15 millions software on 3ds, it's better than last year.
It's safe to say that Nintendo will make profit and shareholders will be proud even if it don't reach 20 M switch hardware.

I think that Nintendo was confident for Q3 but Furukawa said that beginning of 2019 is also very important.

"It's not an easy goal, so we'll see how things go at the start of the year."

http://www.siliconera.com/2018/12/2...not-so-much-for-hardware/#0cPxiBExtGaVJuVB.99

https://www.kyoto-np.co.jp/economy/article/20181221000056

To reach 10 M hardware on Q3, it needs 4,5 M ( shipped ) for north america, 2 M for Japan and 3,5 M for the rest of the world. ( Europe, Southern Asia, Australia etc...)

Gartooth · Dec 27, 2018

Cool seeing all the evergreen games rise this week. Shout-outs to Mario Party for completely blowing my expectations this year, really good return for that brand.

Chris1964 said:
It's likely Captain Toad Switch will join million seller club this quarter. 3DS version must be around half million but it's doubtful numbers will be given for it.

Octopath Traveler at west remains a question. First of its two chances is approaching.

This will be another quarter of many updates.

Wow, that would be way better for the 3DS version than I had expected.

MasterChumly · Dec 27, 2018

People need to stop being so negative about the 20 million forecast discussion. Want to know why people talk about it? Because it's up in the air on whether or not nintendo will hit it. This naturally brings out more discussion as people go back and forth discussing whether or not they will hit it and what may have caused the struggle to hit it. Not everyone is a Nintendo hater or part of some conspiracy theory just because they discuss their forecast.

All of the "obsession" posts just seem to be a drive to shut down discussion because they don't like it. Maybe people should focus on all the shitposting that goes on with the stupid Nintendo doomed meme posting. Does that add anything of value to threads?

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