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Mona

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
26,151
Beauty and the beast did it 28 years ago.

that was before Animated Pictures were their own category though,

after the category though both Up and Toy Story 3 were nominated for Best Picture

the fact that Black Panther is nomiated for best picture and Spiderverse isn't is the the biggest joke ive ever seen
 

Camwi

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
6,375
Hah. You people refuse to understand why Black Panther - a very well made film - means so much to minorities and why it had such a cultural impact, hence its nomination. Just keep ignoring that context and enjoy your salt.
I'm pretty sure just about everyone understands this. It having such a large cultural impact doesn't automatically make it one of the greatest films of the year, though, which is something that people like yourself seemingly refuse to understand.
 

Frodo

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
4,338
I'm pretty sure just about everyone understands this. It having such a large cultural impact doesn't automatically make it one of the greatest films of the year, though, which is something that people like yourself seemingly refuse to understand.

The only problem is that BP which critically is more acclaimed than half of the other pictures on the list is getting way more hate for being nominated than the other duds.
 

Deleted member 31817

Nov 7, 2017
30,876
I couldn't care less about Black Panther being nominated or not, but OMG the salt it generated...

Kinda want it to win everything now.
I liked IW better but the funny thing is these noms are so bad BP is still better than a bunch of them.
 

MrPink

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,300
The Oscars are very much a popularity contest of films that got heavily campaigned enough to win. Really tons of better films get missed every year because they didn't have the support/funding to get the attention that other films do.

I wouldn't have Black Panther on my personal best of the year but it was good and probably more deserving than a handful of films on the list as is. But stop taking these nominations as gospel and you'll be way better off for it.
 

Deleted member 12224

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Oct 27, 2017
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The only problem is that BP which critically is more acclaimed than half of the other pictures on the list is getting way more hate for being nominated than the other duds.
Well it's the only superhero movie there, but I gather the vast majority of people complaining about the nomination are complaining it's not the right superhero movie, rather than it being a superhero movie, which is what leads to suspicion.

The one great superhero movie made already won Best Picture.
 

Wackamole

Member
Oct 27, 2017
16,936
Hah. You people refuse to understand why Black Panther - a very well made film - means so much to minorities and why it had such a cultural impact, hence its nomination. Just keep ignoring that context and enjoy your salt.
I think all people here know that. Not sure if cultural impact is really that big of a factor for a "best movie" nomination but i'm sure it plays a role. However i do think that calling every person who didn't think this movie was the best movie of the year a racist is a bit silly. But it also shows how personal this movie is to some people. I think others miss that perspective and just judge it like any other movie they see (unless they really hate black people but let's not automatically assume that).
 

Frodo

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
4,338
Well it's the only superhero movie there, but I gather the vast majority of people complaining about the nomination are complaining it's not the right superhero movie, rather than it being a superhero movie, which is what leads to suspicion.

The one great superhero movie made already won Best Picture.

Hopefully you are not talking about Birdman.
 

Lotus

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
105,879
Well it's the only superhero movie there, but I gather the vast majority of people complaining about the nomination are complaining it's not the right superhero movie, rather than it being a superhero movie, which is what leads to suspicion.

Nah, many are also complaining for the longest time that its not the right black-led movie as well, as if there can only be one at a time. Hell, same goes for Spider-Verse, both being nominated would've been awesome and well deserved.
 

Raguel

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
2,275
I'm pretty sure just about everyone understands this. It having such a large cultural impact doesn't automatically make it one of the greatest films of the year, though, which is something that people like yourself seemingly refuse to understand.
Hah. Please. Go ahead and downplay BP and the context of its nomination. Please proceed.
 

Ithil

Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,390
Well it's the only superhero movie there, but I gather the vast majority of people complaining about the nomination are complaining it's not the right superhero movie, rather than it being a superhero movie, which is what leads to suspicion.

The one great superhero movie made already won Best Picture.
"I support superhero films for best picture, just not THIS one"
 

Deleted member 31817

Nov 7, 2017
30,876
I still have not encountered a single person in real life who liked vice, even from people who loved The Big Short
 

latex

Member
Jul 5, 2018
1,412
I still have not encountered a single person in real life who liked vice, even from people who loved The Big Short
I will never forget how film twitter all thought Annapurna was doing a horrible job handling Vice and yet it turns out their constant delays and keeping that movie in a lock until the last possible moments under the guise of it being some super important/vicious/pant-shaking monolith was the best possible strategy for it.

Brilliant, even if this was totally on accident!
 

Mona

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
26,151
The Oscars are very much a popularity contest of films that got heavily campaigned enough to win. Really tons of better films get missed every year because they didn't have the support/funding to get the attention that other films do.

I wouldn't have Black Panther on my personal best of the year but it was good and probably more deserving than a handful of films on the list as is. But stop taking these nominations as gospel and you'll be way better off for it.

yea if anyone is interested in the dealings that go on behind the scenes check out these videos


 
Oct 27, 2017
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It's a much better written movie, with better character work, better realized and implemented themes, which themselves are rarely depicted in its genre. It's also a more critically acclaimed film, and just got nominated for Best Picture. I'd say calling Black Panther a better film than Infinity War is kind of the opposite of a daring proclamation. It's common sense.

Incredibly telling that the Infinity War > Black Panther (LOL) crowd can't come up with a coherent rebuttal to your posts.

Infinity War's narrative was a jumbled mess and its writing was incredibly lacking. The pacing was brutal as well. Was it a cliched and shallow celebration that lacked any thematic relevance in the first part of a culmination of 18 previous films? Definitely. A good film or better than Black Panther, not even close.
 
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Contramann

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,405
"Oh wow, black people can write, direct, and star in expensive movies too?! What an achievement!" is what Black Panther being nominated feels like to me. There's nothing exceptional about the writing, the direction, the acting, or technical prowess. The only thing exceptional is that black people were in the forward facing positions and it feels condescending to me that that's enough to get a best picture nomination. However, this will probably the last opportunity for a $200M movie written, directed, and starring black people to be nominated for an best picture Oscar for quite some time so I'm okay with it being recognized for being a $200M black movie.
Oof
 

Einchy

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Oct 25, 2017
42,659
The Oscars are very much a popularity contest of films that got heavily campaigned enough to win. Really tons of better films get missed every year because they didn't have the support/funding to get the attention that other films do.

I wouldn't have Black Panther on my personal best of the year but it was good and probably more deserving than a handful of films on the list as is. But stop taking these nominations as gospel and you'll be way better off for it.
yea if anyone is interested in the dealings that go on behind the scenes check out these videos



Which makes me surprised Mirai got nominated.

Who was campaigning for it? You know for sure anyone actually voting on it will never have either seen or heard of the film.
 

BIGLukas

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
1,322
USA
Spider-Verse is the best movie of the year but since it wasn't nominated for BP, I want BP to win BP just for the salt tbh
 

Mona

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
26,151
"Oh wow, black people can write, direct, and star in expensive movies too?! What an achievement!" is what Black Panther being nominated feels like to me. There's nothing exceptional about the writing, the direction, the acting, or technical prowess. The only thing exceptional is that black people were in the forward facing positions and it feels condescending to me that that's enough to get a best picture nomination. However, this will probably the last opportunity for a $200M movie written, directed, and starring black people to be nominated for an best picture Oscar for quite some time so I'm okay with it being recognized for being a $200M black movie.

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Aurongel

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Oct 28, 2017
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Black Panther is fine but it being nominated in that many categories feels like a desperate hail mary by the Academy to present viewers with a roster of films they care about. It's an incredibly weak list of nominees overall and I think they share that sentiment.

Give everything to Roma.
 

Protome

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Oct 27, 2017
15,689
Sorry To Bother You not getting noms is both fully expected and criminal. I mean at the very goddamn least that sooounndtraccckkkk


I liked BlacKkKlansman though, so neat to see that get recognition in a few places.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Edinburgh, Scotland
random thought: it is kinda weird that The Ballad of Buster Scruggs has more oscar nominations than Inside Llewyn Davis got, right? Not to say that I don't like Buster Scruggs, I guess you would've just thought that Inside Llewyn Davis was by far the more 'prestige'-y of the two.
 

SuperYlvis

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Oct 27, 2017
1,661
Hah. You people refuse to understand why Black Panther - a very well made film - means so much to minorities and why it had such a cultural impact, hence its nomination. Just keep ignoring that context and enjoy your salt.
Not salty at all, I just want awards to be about quality and nothing else.