Yeah I was surprised how much people on the reddit was pissed at upvote too of how shit Jontron said isn't on the same level of "reducing tax" and shit and the softballs
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Hm? I looked at the thread on the H3 subreddit and it's a lot of "what Jon said wasn't exactly 100% explicitly racist sooooo"
He just changes the definitions of words to make them look better. He also has a problem of not citing examples to justify his arguments.
Just Finished watching, i think its a great video, but i haven't noticed those problems, which part did you find problematic?
These issues were prevalent throughout the whole video. Most notably at around halfway point in the video where he discusses terrorism and uses fiction to discuss real issues. 25:00-40:00'ish.
Yeah this part of terrorism is not the best, but he answered the question properly i think.
But the definition problem i havent noticed, some definitions are complementary, not necessarly opposite, but If its a contradiction It would take a bunch of time to me examine all the video again and see those with more attention, and each time and the meaning he used.
I know It sounds like a defense, but in reality i'm more curious If there's mistakes i would like to hear whats wrong to correct what i watched.
Dude came to the defence of a poster that was equating Anti-fascist movements with nazis and to top it off, the poster threatened other posters too, so don't take anything he says seriously.
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Some channel recommendations I didn't notice mentioned in this thread:
Newsbroke is a YouTube satirical political show produced by Al Jazeera Plus. Most of their videos are topical, done in the style of The Daily Show or The Colbert Report; I personally think the writing is a little better than the programs that inspired it. The host has good comedic timing and the show's well produced. They also make a few comedy sketches.
Here's all their videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnHXmyuAUm9eBR27NMDsSzQ/videos
Randy Rainbow is a comedian that does comedy interviews with politicians using real news footage. He also does song parodies of current events using popular Broadway tunes. He still mixes these song parodies with real news footage, creating something like a comedy music video.
Here's his videos: https://www.youtube.com/user/Tday4U/videos
Unpopular from Wicked parody song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPg0BWvhMkA
This channel analyzes political issues and responds to the "skeptic" community. This guy was inspired by the likes of Hbomberguy and Contrapoints, I think. He's small and posts infrequently, but I think he's worth keeping an eye on. He's not there yet, but he's been getting better and better. His most recent video was good I thought, especially the more experimental section at the end.
Lastest video, a response to No Bullshit (a far right, nutty person): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RP6C-0DLLI
Hey, cool recommendations buddy.
I'd only heard of the Rational Disconnect dude before.
Anyways, another new Destiny debate. Feels like he's been putting out a lot of them recently.
This one is a bit uncomfortable, as the person he's debating is genuinely arguing in favor of pedophilia.
For those who dont want to sit through it, basically Amos Yee believes that informed consent doesnt matter. As long as the kid says yes it is fine.
Does Yee believe this applies to anything else at all? Should a child be allowed to enter into a contract on their own word?
I think he said yes. Once a child can essentially talk, they can consent, is his belief.
His argument for sexual interactions with everyone that's under 18 is that ideally, sexual interactions should be no different than giving a kid a handshake or high five and that the mental trauma comes from our own social demonization of the topics.
I've been eyeing this thread a lot but tbh I almost never watch these sorts of videos because they often (understandably!) add in clips of alt right assholes being, well, misogynistic and racist and LGBT-phobic and just generally terrible and they're extremely difficult and painful to watch :(
Amazing thread tho!
Amazing thread tho!
Yee is honestly the ultimate form of how the free speech virtue signaling works today, he gets a bunch of screentime with the skeptic community by framing his pedophilia as "why are the leftists trying to keep me from expressing myself".
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Maybe I should put more clear content warnings on videos. I'd say definitely avoid watching Destiny's debates, he speaks to some of the most hateful people imaginable.
It's weird, for me as a white dude I (hopefully) recognize what's vile, but I rarely if ever feel affected by it. If I watch someone's video exposing and ridiculing the disgusting views of an individual, I usually get to enjoy the video or at the very least not feel directly impacted by what I'm hearing, potentially because it's almost never directed at me.
If an an insult is directed my way it's more often something very meaningless like "soy boy" or something related to political leaning, but that's incomparable to someone disqualifying my existence.
Did any of them actually debate him effectively? I know he was on at least one or two channels.
Oh, I think the video titles do a good enough job of describing what they're about, and what they could contain. Maybe a blanket warning at the top of the post could be useful, but I don't think it's necessary or anything!
And I totally understand. I'm a white woman, and when someone says something racist, I can recognize it and I hate that it happens, but I don't feel hurt in the same visceral way I feel when someone says something misogynistic. Like, the other day I watched Shaun's video on Cuphead when it was posted on the Video Games side, and then I decided to check the rest of his channel and ended up watching a video where he responded to some video that Sargon of Akkad made and listening to him (Sargon) just made me feel miserable as hell :/
I guess that's why it's important that men, white people, straight people, etc. speak out about issues that don't necessarily affect us directly, because sometimes it's way too exhausting and painful for the people who are.
I can't tell if Amos is trolling or not. The examples and propaganda style videos he makes are outrageous but on the other hand he was willing to get arrested for his beliefs and could just be an extremist.
I mean, associating your family name to pedophilia is a strange way of trolling.
Basic terms like terrorism, fascism and violence were redefined in the segment I specified.
I grew up as a Muslim and I'm also brown so I read alot of racism and bigotry online that is targeted at my beliefs and race. Honestly it doesnt affect me at all, I honestly just think it comes down to the person rather than if the hate is targeted at them. Some people have thicker skins and different tollerance levels to what gets at them and people saying shit doesnt effect me but I understand not everyone is like that.
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I imagine there's a number of factors that determine someones tolerance to hateful comments. I just get worried sometimes that I'm laughing at the absurdism of the existence of some of these idiots on Twitter and Youtube not considering how harmful they actually are.
Yea, that's a good idea going forward.
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Agree that it's important for people who aren't necessarily affected to speak out and sometimes interact with these people, it's unreasonable to ask the targets to shoulder that responsibility. Regarding Sargon, I'm pretty sure everyone feels miserable after having listened to him, he's one of the most unbearable people on the platform.
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Pretty much falls in line with the sentiments expressed in his Alt Right Playbook series.
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I dunno if I should bother, but I'm about 6 minutes in and this dude tries to defend AlphaOmegaSin's meltdown over the reaction to Cuphead by saying he's being "hyperbolic' due to the fact that he's trying to provide "entertainment". The implication seems to be that AOS is not that bothered by the supposed SJW criticisms against Cuphead. Um..no. I've seen a bunch of that dude's videos, and he's not exaggerating for effect. This is not the Angry Video Game Nerd we're talking about here
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hahaha, I wouldn't recommend watching response videos, especially from no-name skeptic people.
Haven't seen Stranger Things yet, so I'll probably hold off on watching that Ellis video for now.
I think Destiny is my favourite YT cultural marxist but yikes at some of the people he debates. I genuinely can't make it through some of the debates.
Honestly as someone who works in mental health, I'm tired of people using the explanation of unverified mental illness for racists, gun nuts, and assholes making them seem like uncontrollable victims of a disorder.
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In case y'all haven't heard, Mike Cernovich and his goons have searched through Sam Seder's tweets and are using a few taken out of context where he was shitting on folks in Hollywood that stand up for Roman Polanski, and are spamming his advertisers and other employer (MSNBC) claiming that Sam supports pedophilia. The Majority Report has lost multiple advertisers and Sam lost his job with MSNBC. If any of you can afford becoming a member to support them, I'd highly recommend it. The Majority Report is my favorite political podcast and the quality/amount of content you get is a steal for the price.
Also, he has always comped memberships for folks who want to listen to the full show but can't afford it (which he did for me when I was having financial issues... I had to email him to start paying again after a over year of free membership, no questions asked).
https://majority.fans.fm/membership
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Wow that's really awful, feel bad for the dude.
Yea, some of the people that he talks to are straight awful. I fully understand not being able to handle the mindless or hateful stuff being spewed.
Anyways new Destiny content with Blaire White, Andy Warski, Roaming Millennial and some other folks. I haven't listened to it yet, but it looks like he jumped into a skeptic Skype call where they were questioning Amos Yee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJAYuHQZQ88
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What exactly is the Contra situation?
Edit: Tried to read up on it, strange this avoided my radar considering I'm a huge fan of her work. Outrage seems overblown to be frank, unless I'm missing more prudent details of her going to a conservative sponsored event to debate?
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Anyways new Destiny content with Blaire White, Andy Warski, Roaming Millennial and some other folks. I haven't listened to it yet, but it looks like he jumped into a skeptic Skype call where they were questioning Amos Yee.
Warning, there will probably be a variety of hateful things said in this video, also that one guy is still defending pedophilia so you may not want to hear that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJAYuHQZQ88
Damm, I never thought Amos Yee should be allowed to have kids before but after this he defo should not be allowed to have kids.
In his initial talk with Destiny, I thought maybe he just has a really weird idea of his Utopia. I could kind of see where he was coming from, but here he seems to have lost all semblece of an argument and completely fell apart. I still think he's a troll though.
Yea, some of the people that he talks to are straight awful. I fully understand not being able to handle the mindless or hateful stuff being spewed.
Anyways new Destiny content with Blaire White, Andy Warski, Roaming Millennial and some other folks. I haven't listened to it yet, but it looks like he jumped into a skeptic Skype call where they were questioning Amos Yee.
Warning, there will probably be a variety of hateful things said in this video, also that one guy is still defending pedophilia so you may not want to hear that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJAYuHQZQ88
Destiny hopping into that chat was probably not the best idea, but I know it will be interesting. I've never heard much of any of these other people talking except for Roaming Millenial (via Shaun tearing one of her videos to pieces). I'm currently watching it and the amount of bickering in the first ten minutes is ridiculous. They're jumping all over the place, so after about 12 minutes, Destiny sorta chills in the background for a while. He plays some LoL about 20 minutes in haha
I think the highlight of the Destiny v. "Skeptics" v. Amos Yee debate was the conversation with Andy Warski. Warski's not as far gone as Blair White or Roaming Millennial, insofar as he's actually self-reflective and seems to be open enough to question his world views. I could be completely off-base here but in this conversation he seems like he's actually trying to educate himself.
I'm not super familiar with his output, but I think Warski should ask himself why he knows so much about Ben Shapiro's talking points but doesn't know who Roy Moore is.
I'm not super familiar with his output, but I think Warski should ask himself why he knows so much about Ben Shapiro's talking points but doesn't know who Roy Moore is.
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no but seriously I'm too drunk right now to read your post properly :/
I read it all. Good post.
I'd like to see good rebuttals of Shaun or Contrapoints or whoever, as would they, as it would only help to improve their arguments. They are never forthcoming though as the reactionaries really don't have a leg to stand and always argue in bad faith. Its just fallacy piled on top of fallacy with no ounce of charity or wish to actually understand the oppositions viewpoint. They are a lost cause just fishing for YouTube and Patreon money.
I'd like to see good rebuttals of Shaun or Contrapoints or whoever, as would they, as it would only help to improve their arguments. They are never forthcoming though as the reactionaries really don't have a leg to stand and always argue in bad faith. Its just fallacy piled on top of fallacy with no ounce of charity or wish to actually understand the oppositions viewpoint. They are a lost cause just fishing for YouTube and Patreon money.