Ah yes,abusing the Delay strats. I did that too hehe. It's fun :)
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Ah yes,abusing the Delay strats. I did that too hehe. It's fun :)
Pfft, who needs Delay. All aboard the ~100% evasion + Impassion + Crescent Mirror/Adamantine Shield strategy.
Alisia's craft is so broken
Haha I tried that too for certain bosses. What a fun game. Love Fie to death :)
Haha, yep. Finding ways to break the game is pretty fun in its own right.
Chapter 5 schoolhouse boss made me livid. What an awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful, awful boss.
Outside of that only the fight with C game me some trouble (got instakilled by his S-Craft because I didn't realize 100% evasion was useless against that... Was the point I added Adamantine Shield / Crescent Mirror to the base strategy :P)
Finally a place to discuss Trails with other initiates!
I must say I played Trails in the Sky FC on PC first and while it "just" entertained me during the length of its time, the twist at the end absolutely destroyed me since Estelle and Joshua really have grown on me without me noticing it. That was the point were it got personal and since then I bought every Trails game on PC at launch and finsihed those suckers until they were done, every other game at the moment could wait.
I cannot believe how people managed to live years without a closure to that cliffhanger back when FC released originally. I had to wait a year or so for SC and it already drove me crazy.
And now the same shit happened with Cold Steel 1. I could not believe all the bombshells that were happening in rapid succession after the final boss in the schoohouse (for which I turned the difficulty down with no regrets, fuck that stupid difficulty spike) and how it ended right then and there.
Thankfully CS2 is already in the works and it seems Durante works on it again. After reading the background of the localisation of the series I'm realising its a miracle we got this far in the first place and I don't really have a reason to complain over a little waiting time. Well, Mario Odyssey has to suffice until CS2 I guess.
Anyway, feels good to have that out of my system.
I must say I played Trails in the Sky FC on PC first and while it "just" entertained me during the length of its time, the twist at the end absolutely destroyed me since Estelle and Joshua really have grown on me without me noticing it. That was the point were it got personal and since then I bought every Trails game on PC at launch and finsihed those suckers until they were done, every other game at the moment could wait.
I cannot believe how people managed to live years without a closure to that cliffhanger back when FC released originally. I had to wait a year or so for SC and it already drove me crazy.
And now the same shit happened with Cold Steel 1. I could not believe all the bombshells that were happening in rapid succession after the final boss in the schoohouse (for which I turned the difficulty down with no regrets, fuck that stupid difficulty spike) and how it ended right then and there.
Thankfully CS2 is already in the works and it seems Durante works on it again. After reading the background of the localisation of the series I'm realising its a miracle we got this far in the first place and I don't really have a reason to complain over a little waiting time. Well, Mario Odyssey has to suffice until CS2 I guess.
Anyway, feels good to have that out of my system.
I hate this sorter because it made me choose between Estelle and Joshua as the 5th question! How can I do that?! So, naturally, I didn't, and they both tied. The real surprise was Mayor Maybelle somehow managed to get 1st place.
The only thing wrong with the sorter is that's tumblr and it would have been nice to share the list normally.
Tumblr seems to be the new and cool place for character sort games these days. I did one for Etrian Odyssey portraits, for example.
What else is new? Those Sakura waifu games are really cheap and redundant, but end up selling to a guaranteed sizable audience so much of the time.
People don't know about one of the best ships in the game.
Valimar x Mint, boys.
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Tried that sorter for Sora. My top 5 was so predictable (Estelle, Joshua, Schera, Cassius, Olivier).
Sieg is #15 lol.
The bottom is like a single chapter from FC, which I don't even hate
Sieg is #15 lol.
The bottom is like a single chapter from FC, which I don't even hate
from the bottom: Dunan, Dalmore, Gilbert, the orphans, Deen, Rocco, Rais, Hans, and Jill
Tried the sorter a few times and my top 5 was always Estelle, Kloe, Olivier, Cassius and Joshua. I had no idea I liked Cassius that much lol.
Now we just need to make a sorter for all the original and non-recolor monsters and bosses. That should be easy for all these Falcom games with built-in bestiary books.
I don't need a sorter to tell y'all that the cute lil' mushroom snakes are the best.
I don't need a sorter to tell y'all that the cute lil' mushroom snakes are the best.
Pfffft poms and creepy sheep are way better
Hah, the mushroom snake eats poms and creepy sheep for breakfast!
Your mushroom snake's got nuthin' on the glorious Pink Sheep, for it makes use of kung-fu to beat it up in his pursuit of happiness.
Hey all - I haven't played any of TitS yet, but I have the first two on PSP. Two questions:
1. Does save transferring work between FC and SC on the PSP? And is it worth it/is it anything significant?
2. I understand 3rd is PC-only, which means I can't transfer a PSP save to it. Is the save transfer important enough to merit playing all 3 on the PC?
1. Does save transferring work between FC and SC on the PSP? And is it worth it/is it anything significant?
2. I understand 3rd is PC-only, which means I can't transfer a PSP save to it. Is the save transfer important enough to merit playing all 3 on the PC?
2) You can download someone else's SC save for 3rd if you want to play the first two on PSP. But in general, the PC version of all three games are the definitive versions, so I'd suggest playing them if possible. Localization fixes (there's a character who was renamed somewhat recently, and the PC versions were updated to match that), typo fixes, and turbo mode are all PC-exclusive.
If you can, go with the PC versions. Turbo mode is a godsend.
You can select a clear save data if I'm not mistaken.
If you need a clear save data of SC for the 3rd on PC, there are plenty (including me) who can hit you up.
I do recommend playing it on PC as it has received several updates over the years.
I would go for the PC no question, but I already own it on PSP so I was thinking of saving the money and just playing it there.
But it seems PC really is the way to go. Now I have to decide whether to buy FC now or wait for a sale on GOG. I won't be able to play it anytime soon so I'm inclined to wait for the inevitable "Falcom/JRPG" sale.
But it seems PC really is the way to go. Now I have to decide whether to buy FC now or wait for a sale on GOG. I won't be able to play it anytime soon so I'm inclined to wait for the inevitable "Falcom/JRPG" sale.
Hey all,
I'm writing some text for our submission to the Community Spotlight . If anyone has some graphic skills, I would appreciate your help to raise our visibility for new members. Let me know, and thanks!
I'm writing some text for our submission to the Community Spotlight . If anyone has some graphic skills, I would appreciate your help to raise our visibility for new members. Let me know, and thanks!
Well it doesn't hurt to try it on PSP first of course. See if you can get used to the battle system and quartz system a bit.
You can always decide to continue on PC, either from the beginning or borrow a save.
FC goes on sale a few times a year on steam/gog and that's a good entry price.
Oh, yeah, a bunch of us have saves from pretty much every point in the game (thanks to the 1000 or so save slots), so getting a save from someone here should be pretty easy if you decide to switch to PC at any point.
Hm. Since I have options re: getting help with someone else's save, it looks like the deciding factor will probably be Turbo Mode. I'll look into that and then figure out which platform to play it on.
Does anyone go to bat for Cold Steel > TitS, or is it mostly consensus that TitS is superior?
Does anyone go to bat for Cold Steel > TitS, or is it mostly consensus that TitS is superior?
I personally like CS more, it introduced me to the series and holds a really special place in my heart. That's very uncommon though, yes. SC especially is seen as the best game in the series by most but I disliked the majority of it. FC is great though and haven't gotten to 3rd yet(I suspect it'll end up being my favorite Sky game). Also Turbo Mode is essential in Sky, especially SC since you will be walking around a lot....like, a LOT. A ton. I cannot stress enough how much time you spend walking around the same areas over and over. I do hope we can avoid more CS vs TitS wars though because those convos are mad annoying and tired lol.
I think you'll see a decent number of people say Crossbell is their favorite sub-series but that's obviously a limited opinion since the games aren't available in English, most Western players haven't played them.
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I prefer the Sky games because they introduced me to the series and FC in particular takes me back to the days I used to play Ragnarok Online for some reason. For those reasons it holds a special place in my heart.
Comparing FC/SC against CS1, I do think the Sky games have better writing so far. Not that Cold Steel is bad. It's just not quite as good as Estelle's journey.
I do think CS1's a better entry point for newcomers, though. /hides
Although I have yet to finish Cold Steel 1 and I'm holding off on Ao right now until I finish CS1 and 2, but so far I think that Zero is probably my favorite one out of them as of now, love the Special Support Section.
Someone convince me to continue Trails of Cold Steel. I'm like 15 hours in and I'm at the the part with Gaius' village. I've just run out of motivation to continue this game since basically nothing has happened yet. The characters just keep going on school trips where some small problem occurs and you solve them and then repeat. I've played both TitS and I liked them a lot so I dunno why I can't get into this.
In terms of characters, I love Estelle as a protagonist and her character growth overshadows Rean's by a longshot. Furthermore, I prefer the game mechanics of Sora compared to Sen, simply because it's balanced a lot better. With Sen, the mechanics is more streamlined, which is not entirely a bad thing, but it does make it easy to abuse the quartz system to increase your damage output exponentially.
You're 15 hours into an 80 hour Trails game. 15 hours into FC and you're what, still hanging around Bose or just leaving? Think about that in terms of what seems like relatively little going on at the moment compared to what comes later. CS1 arguably takes longer to really get going, but they're setting a lot of groundwork for what's to come. The CS sub-series is really big and has a lot of moving parts that require a lot of setup. It takes a while to get there but, imo, the payoff is excellent. If you're really just not finding the motivation to get through then don't stress over it though, it might just not be for you. It's definitely a different beast than Sky is and the vibe of those games might just be more your thing.
If that's the case I'll soldier through. I basically like most things about it, it's just that the plot hasn't exactly grabbed me yet. Don't necessarily mind a slow burn but if the pay off is worth it, I'll keep going.
CS1 is really slow, definitely slower than FC when it comes to doing anything with it's actual main plot it keeps dangling in front of you. In terms of comparison, despite being longer, CS1 maybe tells 2/3 the story FC did while taking more time to do so.
Eh? I don't think there was much hate for XSEED once they actually started moving with the Trails games. Prior to SC releasing a lot of people were upset because they kept saying for years it was coming but couldn't provide any updates or progress beyond that, and eventually it was just assumed to be vaporware and they were being dishonest.
Since then, I got the feeling GAF respected XSEED a lot since they are more consistent than others in terms of localization quality. Pretty much everyone in Falcom threads scoffed at the idea of another publisher picking up Trails.
Eh? I don't think there was much hate for XSEED once they actually started moving with the Trails games. Prior to SC releasing a lot of people were upset because they kept saying for years it was coming but couldn't provide any updates or progress beyond that, and eventually it was just assumed to be vaporware and they were being dishonest.
Since then, I got the feeling GAF respected XSEED a lot since they are more consistent than others in terms of localization quality. Pretty much everyone in Falcom threads scoffed at the idea of another publisher picking up Trails.
Cold Steel 1/2 are the weakest entries, and Cold Steel 3 has only strengthened my belief that if it would have been possible they would have made it 1 better game instead of 2 games that had to be padded in various ways. The payoff is kinda there with Cold Steel 3 but I'm not gonna lie there is still a ton of stuff we don't know about even after Cold Steel 3. That said even if the payoff isn't there in fullforce for Cold Steel 3 that title stands on its own magnificently. So it's still worth to power through just to have full context when you get there.
I've been replaying FC on PC with turbo mode and it's great. For a first playtrough I wouldn't recommend turbooing through everything. Like don't turbo the camera during cutscenes (it kinda ruins the framing) or turbo everytime you walk (you'll run into enemies all the time). When you feel that things do take their time in battle, for example during enemy phases you can speed things up a bit. Arts look cool for the first few times, but Aerial takes a lot of time to finish with that animation. The same goes for S.Crafts, the fun starts to wear off really fast. So you can skip those S.Crafts or speed them up with turbo. If you have to get through an area fast or have to backtrack for a certain sidequest turbomode will save you.
There are advantages with starting with Cold Steel first. It has more engaging gameplay with a lot more variation, although some stuff is a bit too simplified. It has more events and storybeats so it will pull you in a bit faster. You're jumping right into the action. In TitS FC everything starts from the ground up.
The sky games are modern jrpg classics. It has all the callbacks to older rpgs, but feels fresh. Better visuals, better framerates and better writing.
The cold steel games are modern jrpgs. It looks a bit more bland and the writing is meant for a younger audience. Still it has a lot more going on for it and the charm to back it up.
All the trails are part of an overarching plot they keep building and that's what makes this community going. I have only been part of it since two years ago, but it has been growing slowly day by day. The cold steel games made it reach a greater audience, even if it alienates a part of the older falcom fans.
The answer really depends on the person which they think is better. I started with the sky games and I think they're better than their cold steel counterparts. Someone else thinks cold steel is better. You'll have to see it for yourself!
One thing is clear, when you played one game you'll know what you're getting into . They run on the good kind of fanservice.
Edit: all my posts are getting kinda long meh
Thanks for the breakdown. I'm really looking forward to getting into these.
It sounds like Sky is more up my alley than Cold Steel. I think I'll finally throw my hat in the ring and give these a shot once I clear a few things I'm actively playing at the moment off my plate.
Cold Steel has better combat. The Sky games basically require a turbo mode or cheat engine to be bearable. Though I think SC suffers from this more than the rest of the trilogy.
But I still can recognise your face from this collection of insidious individuals:
I think part of reason why Trails (I'm speaking about Sky specifically) didn't immediately explode in the west is because our protagonist isn't some sort of world-saviour messiah destined to bring mankind into the enlightenment, commonly found in most RPGs out there. She's a simple bracer with a past whom still needs growing up before she can be an adult. To most people, she's less interesting than most RPG protagonist.
No, that's not it. Think of when FC was first localized.
2011. And it first came out on the PSP.
Had we received the game in the early 2000s on a popular console, there's no doubt would have been an instant classic. A lot of popular franchises became popular because we got to grow up alongside them. Think of all the GameFaqs posts, stories, rumors, etc that we didn't get with FC. It's almost upsetting when I think about it, but at the same time, we ended up getting Xseed's wonderful translations so it sort of makes up for it.
They got hate for the uncertainty. Their translations are good, I'm hesitant to use the word faithful because that's something people that want literal translations use and that's definitely not what XSeed does.
Good point. I didn't consider PSP at all as one of the exacerbating factor.
Xseed tries to get the meaning across and they'll change things to suit it while not ruining the character.
They go beyond what is normally accepted.
I can think of where the hate comes from though, as most that reacted on the front page where more consumers than fans.
Delays, little marketing, higher prices, no jp sub (urgh), the 3rd missing psp (lol) and of course some of Tom's questionable posts. There's a difference between being critical and just straight up hating. Back there the two kinda mixed.
Few years back you only had FC and now we have 5 titles. Lots of other Falcom games as well. Things are looking up.
We have to be careful not to let it get to us and stay positive.
They go beyond what is normally accepted.
I can think of where the hate comes from though, as most that reacted on the front page where more consumers than fans.
Delays, little marketing, higher prices, no jp sub (urgh), the 3rd missing psp (lol) and of course some of Tom's questionable posts. There's a difference between being critical and just straight up hating. Back there the two kinda mixed.
Few years back you only had FC and now we have 5 titles. Lots of other Falcom games as well. Things are looking up.
We have to be careful not to let it get to us and stay positive.
The hate was that they were "problematic".
Falcom really squandered a good opportunity. I don't know how well they did in China but the west would have loved this games. Probably not in the same way as FF but the games would be remembered fondly like Chrono Trigger, Wild Arms and Arc the Lad.
I didn't know XSEED got so much hate back then. I know waiting for SC was a crazy ride but things have gotten so much better. I mean, in the span of two years we went from one Kiseki game to five. That's pretty impressive.
What does that mean? lol