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cartographer

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Oct 25, 2017
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This kinda blows my mind to be honest. When there's guilds out there that are worse than the average pickup group. But I guess they exist…

These particular people were just sort of dumb / inefficient with their time. They weren't great players but they were certainly capable of doing what they did in 1/4 the time if they had better leadership. Super toxic, too, so I doubt that helped.

Looking at the mythic Coven kills most of them have two tanks and a rogue as the ONLY melee.

I haven't seen a fight so melee unfriendly in a long time but still GOOD LORD

So three tanks then?
 

Alimnassor

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
773
My guild raids. A lot of our raiders have kids or are busy. We have days in which we raid. We arent hardcore but, we do have a dps req in place of attendance.
 

data west

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Oct 25, 2017
13,018
The last 2 monk tier sets are so gorgeous. I really hope there's some sort of class inspired cosmetics in the next xpack or that'll be a huge detriment to why I honestly still play the game
 

ToTheMoon

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Oct 27, 2017
3,338
My guild raids at 9 EST on Saturday / Sunday, which actually work out well for a lot of people with kids.

We need to take breaks so that the parents can prepare breakfast, but I'm fine with it. I'd rather give up my mornings than my evenings anyway.
 
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Milennia

Prophet of Truth - Community Resetter
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Oct 25, 2017
18,256
method just downed aggramar putting them at 10/11 bosses dead in 1 day
they have been raiding for 19 hours so far will probably call it here with a sizeable lead with only the last boss remaining

im beyond upset needless to say but method slammed that boss and 2 guilds have been on it for a good while so they clearly just outplayed and had a good strat for it, so i take nothing away from them

im just dissapointed that its all going down like this, so far its the quickest raid outside of EN i can remember to hit the last in such a large instance
 

cdyhybrid

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Oct 25, 2017
17,422
Method is really damn good, no doubt. But even for as good as they are, it probably shouldn't be dying this fast. Although it being easy is good for my casual, retired raider, Heroic-only ass.

Hopefully they figure out tuning better next expansion.
 

Milennia

Prophet of Truth - Community Resetter
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Oct 25, 2017
18,256
Method is really damn good, no doubt. But even for as good as they are, it probably shouldn't be dying this fast. Although it being easy is good for my casual, retired raider, Heroic-only ass.

Hopefully they figure out tuning better next expansion.
yeah at this rate gold sales wont even exist for high end raiders because the instance will be blown over after the first wave of nerfs go out in a couple months
 

Tachya

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Oct 25, 2017
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I have to wonder sometimes why they don't go back to limited attempts and/or nearly numerically impossible in the first week or two (until a you get a stacking raid buff). Would stretch out the content slightly for world class guilds, and gradually nerf the content for everyone else, giving a sliding progression scale. But you'd have to design with that in mind, rather just make hotfix changes when you deem it necessary.

Titanforging/gear inflation also deserves at least part of the blame.
 

Milennia

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Oct 25, 2017
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I have to wonder sometimes why they don't go back to limited attempts and/or nearly numerically impossible in the first week or two (until a you get a stacking raid buff). Would stretch out the content slightly for world class guilds, and gradually nerf the content for everyone else, giving a sliding progression scale. But you'd have to design with that in mind, rather just make hotfix changes when you deem it necessary.

Titanforging/gear inflation also deserves at least part of the blame.
im in the minority for wanting this i think

i preferred bosses that took days to learn and that i couldnt kill until next reset with more gear, i liked refining the strat and needed just a little bit more damage to kill him which we could get the following tuesday
it kinda sucks but thats my raiding fetish
 

CHC

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Oct 27, 2017
10,247
I will not miss the combination of relics and legendaries in Legion, specifically how difficult they make it to switch specs (or worse, characters), and how incredibly luck-based the drops are (not so much for relics but for legendaries).

Don't get me wrong, Legion is one of my favorite expansions period, but there are definitely things that piss me off more and more as I try to diversify my gameplay experience, be it by switching specs, gear, characters, or whatever.

I just feel like both relics and legendaries were failed experiments in a sense. While artifacts were meant to be an investment and somewhat mitigate the loot treadmill in the weapon slot, the presence of relics for weapon-reliant specs made it so that you actually need to accrue THREE pieces of loot PER spec, rather than just one or two (like a warrior or DK, who use same weapon for different specs).

Legendaries are just.... not well done. I think the main thing is that Blizzard just underestimated how important some of them would be and just how unsatisfying it is to NOT have certain ones on certain classes. At this point they could fix the problem with some kind of legendary-trading system (even at a less than 1:1 ratio). Really, now, I don't see who this would hurt at this point considering most hardcore players have had their BiS legendaries for months already. Like, it sucks starting a rogue at 100 and knowing I'll probably never get the right legendaries by the time the expansion is over. Granted, I don't NEED them for the level I play at lately, but they often "smooth out" certain builds to a point that not having them is really more a matter of diminished fun as opposed to raw numbers.
 

Fjordson

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Oct 25, 2017
5,017
Anyone have an easy way to do the Mark of the Sentinax quest? Part of the Broken Shore campaign.

This shit is absolute garbage now that Broken Shore is mostly deserted. I don't even have a beacon to summon portals for a chance at getting the marks.
 

carlsojo

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Oct 28, 2017
33,920
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Anyone have an easy way to do the Mark of the Sentinax quest? Part of the Broken Shore campaign.

This shit is absolute garbage now that Broken Shore is mostly deserted. I don't even have a beacon to summon portals for a chance at getting the marks.

Look on Premade Groups under questing and search Sentinax. There are a couple of Horde groups active as I type this.
 

Jag

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Oct 26, 2017
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Anyone have an easy way to do the Mark of the Sentinax quest? Part of the Broken Shore campaign.

This shit is absolute garbage now that Broken Shore is mostly deserted. I don't even have a beacon to summon portals for a chance at getting the marks.

Beacons shouldn't be BOP. Just makes it harder on alts.
 

Barnak

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Oct 25, 2017
5,066
Canada
Mark of Sentinax isn't so bad, just create/find a group on the "group finder" and you'll usually get a full group within minutes and once someone in your group gets a beacon, they will drop pretty frequently from the portals monsters.

Last time I did the quest, we were lucky enough to get a "blue" beacon that gave everyone their 50 marks on the first group of 3 portals.
 

mclem

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah that makes sense. I've tried to return a few times, but the lack of people to play with has always made it boring rather quickly. Everyone seems pretty set in their ways when playing now.
For what it's worth, I'm happy to take on ERA folk if they want, but we're in no way a cutting-edge guild!
 

MrLuchador

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Oct 25, 2017
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For what it's worth, I'm happy to take on ERA folk if they want, but we're in no way a cutting-edge guild!

Thanks mclem! I'd be looking for a more social play along guild than a regimented raiding guild at this point. I did hardcore WoW Raiding for 5 years and by the end of it I hated the game, as it was taking over my life but I couldn't let it go.
 

Gloomz

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Oct 27, 2017
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Hey guys - is there an ERA discord (like there is for Destiny 2) for LFG or anything like that? Geared towards M+ groups or Raiding?
 

cdyhybrid

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hey guys - is there an ERA discord (like there is for Destiny 2) for LFG or anything like that? Geared towards M+ groups or Raiding?
There's a WoWEra Discord but it's pretty slow.

People are pretty scattered across regions/time zones/servers so you're probably better off looking for one of the general WoW LFG Discords.
 

Moff

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Oct 26, 2017
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finished antorus

I don't know if I just got very lucky (I just do pug normal raids) but that was by very far the easiest of the raids in legion.
not sure if I should unsub now or do it a few times, probably the latter.

anyway, fantastic expansion, I still think this is the best WoW has ever been in many ways.
Suramar + Nighthold surely was the highlight of Legion, though.
 

Fjordson

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Oct 25, 2017
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Look on Premade Groups under questing and search Sentinax. There are a couple of Horde groups active as I type this.

Mark of Sentinax isn't so bad, just create/find a group on the "group finder" and you'll usually get a full group within minutes and once someone in your group gets a beacon, they will drop pretty frequently from the portals monsters.

Last time I did the quest, we were lucky enough to get a "blue" beacon that gave everyone their 50 marks on the first group of 3 portals.
I'm a dope and totally forgot you could group up for it. Was able to find a group and finish in like 15 minutes. Just about done with the campaign, doing a Broken Shore order hall mission right now, so I'll have my monk mount tonight =D

It's not too difficult, but having to go back to the Legionfall campaign for every class mount is a huge drag. That shit was dull on release, it's even worse now. Kinda wish they could make Breaching the Tomb account-wide, but maybe that would trivialize getting the class mounts too much.
 

Oemenia

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Oct 29, 2017
82
I am a player that played a Warlock till level 40 way back in 2007. I've now returned to the game for a month and I plan to solo to about level 90-100 (I'm 64 right now) and then start doing instances.

For starters, the game is a lot less popular these days so will my chances of finding groups be affected? Similarly are majority of players these days high-level? The Vanilla areas are pretty much deserted though the BC areas I have been bumping into players here and there. Most importantly though, by soling the game, how much of the good stuff will I be missing out on?
 

Tachya

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Oct 25, 2017
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I am a player that played a Warlock till level 40 way back in 2007. I've now returned to the game for a month and I plan to solo to about level 90-100 (I'm 64 right now) and then start doing instances.

For starters, the game is a lot less popular these days so will my chances of finding groups be affected? Similarly are majority of players these days high-level? The Vanilla areas are pretty much deserted though the BC areas I have been bumping into players here and there. Most importantly though, by soling the game, how much of the good stuff will I be missing out on?

Okay, so you may want to read a returning (or new) player's guide or something cause a fuckload has changed in the past DECADE.

First off, there's a thing called the dungeon finder now, introduced in late Wrath, that provides matchmaking for (up to heroic) dungeons, teleporting you in and out of the instance. You can use it starting at level 15.

The game is still plenty populated, but it depends what server you're on. Because the dungeon finder works across realms, you won't have any problem finding basic groups. Realms really only matter though now in terms of what you'll find on the AH and if you'll ever be interested in high-end raiding as the most difficult current content is locked to playing with people on the same realm.

Most players these days will be max-level yes, and probably have at least several level-capped alts as well.

You're not missing out much just questing, but doing dungeons to level can sometimes be faster/a nice boost of experience. One common tactic for leveling is to quest while in queue for the dungeon finder, and then do the dungeon when it pops, rinse and repeat.

One final note for now - you're much better off and it's actually encouraged to avoid dungeons while leveling from 90-110, as the XP gains aren't very good. In Legion it's very important to finish all the quest zones in order to get your reputations up (which is part of the process of unlocking flying in Legion). Related side note: flying isn't just a purchasable thing for the Warlords and Legion areas - you have to jump through some (fairly tedious) hoops to earn it.
 

Thorn

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
24,446
Is there a Reset Era guild? I'm back playing and I sometimes play with RL friends but no guild, would love to have some fine folks to chat with!
 
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Clawbvious

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Oct 27, 2017
465
New York
Is there a Reset Era guild? I'm back playing and I sometimes play with RL friends but no guild, would love to have some fine folks to chat with!

There is not. We're all a bit spread out in server / team / and hardcore-ness. Hopefully Communities in BfA will help keep us together and chatting in game.

That said, maybe we should make the WowEra discord a bit more prominent now that everyone is asking?
 

Oemenia

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
82
Okay, so you may want to read a returning (or new) player's guide or something cause a fuckload has changed in the past DECADE.

First off, there's a thing called the dungeon finder now, introduced in late Wrath, that provides matchmaking for (up to heroic) dungeons, teleporting you in and out of the instance. You can use it starting at level 15.

The game is still plenty populated, but it depends what server you're on. Because the dungeon finder works across realms, you won't have any problem finding basic groups. Realms really only matter though now in terms of what you'll find on the AH and if you'll ever be interested in high-end raiding as the most difficult current content is locked to playing with people on the same realm.

Most players these days will be max-level yes, and probably have at least several level-capped alts as well.

You're not missing out much just questing, but doing dungeons to level can sometimes be faster/a nice boost of experience. One common tactic for leveling is to quest while in queue for the dungeon finder, and then do the dungeon when it pops, rinse and repeat.

One final note for now - you're much better off and it's actually encouraged to avoid dungeons while leveling from 90-110, as the XP gains aren't very good. In Legion it's very important to finish all the quest zones in order to get your reputations up (which is part of the process of unlocking flying in Legion). Related side note: flying isn't just a purchasable thing for the Warlords and Legion areas - you have to jump through some (fairly tedious) hoops to earn it.
Wow that's great to hear that instances are now across realms. I remember that back in 07 at lower levels and without a guild it was very time-consuming to find a willing party and then have them stick around long enough to finish an instance. This was always my biggest problem to enjoying the game and so it seems almost like a dream come true.

Either way I only got the game back because I have a job with a lot of spare time (and I can only read so much) so knowing that soloing is the way to go until 110 is good news to me. Levelling is fun because it is work but also because it is something to be proud of. At 110 though is there still the social aspect of the game?
 
Nov 1, 2017
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I can believe the raid is easy, just had a pretty crummy tank who was almost killing the whole raid numerous times. The only thing that saved us was the great healers we had.
 

cartographer

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Oct 25, 2017
2,017
Can we talk about how much better this Drogbar concept art is than what we got in-game?

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Anoregon

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Oct 25, 2017
14,080
Just got Acherus Drape on my DK. I have now officially cycled through every possible legendary that isn't actually useful for increasing damage.
 

FreezerGeezer

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Oct 25, 2017
1,492
Australia
Anyone have experience with elemental shaman or Balance druid? In M+ and raiding mainly. They seem to be okay on some of the DPS standings and the like. I imagine druid would bring more utility?

I play two melee centric characters at the moment and would like a ranged. I will probably try stick with a one ranged and one melee, I play too many alts and always get left behind!

Edit : Also as I have unlocked flying on one of those guys, is there much reason to do the zone quests / class campaign on an alt these days? Seems like quickest way /played is too just log on with invasions, fly over with heirlooms and hack away.
 

Orochinagis

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
3,548
Done with most real life stuff, gotta press the sub and enjoy playing monk again, became pretty stressed as DPS on raids
 

cartographer

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,017
Anyone have experience with elemental shaman or Balance druid? In M+ and raiding mainly. They seem to be okay on some of the DPS standings and the like. I imagine druid would bring more utility?

I play two melee centric characters at the moment and would like a ranged. I will probably try stick with a one ranged and one melee, I play too many alts and always get left behind!

Edit : Also as I have unlocked flying on one of those guys, is there much reason to do the zone quests / class campaign on an alt these days? Seems like quickest way /played is too just log on with invasions, fly over with heirlooms and hack away.

Balance is one of the top specs overall for M+. Over an Ele Shaman, they bring a battle rez and are far more survivable. Lunar beam is really good but so is the short CD interrupt Ele brings. Ele can be good (last season the first 23 in time was done with an Ele shaman), it's just Balance and Affliction are so far above every other DPS spec in M+.

You don't miss out much if you level that way. My last few 110s basically didn't touch the quests. You may want rep for certain hidden appearances and you need to do up to the blue dragon area in Aszuna if you want to do Balance of Power on them, but that's about it.
 

Ytsejam

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Nov 9, 2017
36
Booms and ele are just good for + cause ranged are far superior for it (super biased cause I main affliction lol). But as a healer I just vastly prefer running with groups that have 2 or 3 (the dream) ranged. I don't know why most melee just like jumping in front of bosses and mobs, never run out to obvious gtfo abilities, so I like ranged. Attempted a 14 upper this week, with 1 mediocre fire mage, and 2 melee and we just couldn't down curator. I know good melee exist, but man they're rare lol.
 

Thorn

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
24,446
So I'm at Broken Shores stuck at ilevel 813. How do I reliably get 845 gear?

All I get is artifact power.
 
Nov 1, 2017
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So to get the Rogue classmount you have to enter into every alliance capital and kill someone. Sorta explains why don't see them very often. Especially on RP servers.
 
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