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Which game do you find holds the most replayability?

  • Demon's Souls

    Votes: 36 11.6%
  • Dark Souls

    Votes: 105 33.8%
  • Dark Souls II

    Votes: 44 14.1%
  • Dark Souls III

    Votes: 93 29.9%
  • Bloodborne

    Votes: 95 30.5%
  • Sekiro

    Votes: 17 5.5%

  • Total voters
    311

Morrigan

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Damn, that's too much to spend for a 1 game console. It would be like GameCube all over again (SSBM).
Odin Sphere Leifthrasir*, Uncharted 4/Lost Legacy and Horizon make it worth it, too.

* Also if you don't have a PS3, the Dragon's Crown and The Last of Us remasters might be interesting.

I pretty much bought a PS4 just so I could play Bloodborne lol (lots of great games have come out for the PS4 since then tho). I think Bloodborne is worth it, personally. But, your mileage may vary.
Same. Though to be honest my PC is too old to run most newer PS4 games all that well, so that was worth it for that (until my bf bought his gaming PC not too long ago).
 

giallo

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I didn't see this posted here, so I thought I'd share.

This is really well done, and a collaboration I'd get behind.

 

Sblargh

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Going through Dark Souls 3 again now gunning for achievements.
I am spending so many souls on spells, but also noticing that compared to DS2, you seem to level up a lot less anyway.
In some says, DS3 is my favorite of the three. I love the pacing, how it is at the same time slow and weird with enemies swerving and having timings that aren't obvious.
I like the enemy variety, but there is something missing on level design itself. I guess they're not bad in themselves, but teleporting makes it all feel less relevant.
DS2's weapon durability would make the larger stretches between bonfires feel meaningful because you were either being forced to switch from your main weapon or waste repair powder that are rare enough to make you feel like you can't just waste it.

DS3 never makes me feel like "oh god please where is the next bonfire".
 

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Going through Dark Souls 3 again now gunning for achievements.
I am spending so many souls on spells, but also noticing that compared to DS2, you seem to level up a lot less anyway.
In some says, DS3 is my favorite of the three. I love the pacing, how it is at the same time slow and weird with enemies swerving and having timings that aren't obvious.
I like the enemy variety, but there is something missing on level design itself. I guess they're not bad in themselves, but teleporting makes it all feel less relevant.
DS2's weapon durability would make the larger stretches between bonfires feel meaningful because you were either being forced to switch from your main weapon or waste repair powder that are rare enough to make you feel like you can't just waste it.

DS3 never makes me feel like "oh god please where is the next bonfire".

I had this feeling quite some time. Road of Sacrifices, Catacombs of Carthus, Cathedral of the Deep and especially Irithyll of the Boreal Valley gave me that feeling. I finally gave up on Irithyll of the Boreal Valley and didn't beat DS3 until today. For me this is the hardest area in any DS game. But I just bought DS3 again for my One X, looking forward to beat the area this time :)
 

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Rumours about a DS1 remaster at a Bandai Namco event next week? Probably bollocks but I'd take it, the only one I still have to play.
 
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Going through Dark Souls 3 again now gunning for achievements.
I am spending so many souls on spells, but also noticing that compared to DS2, you seem to level up a lot less anyway.
In some says, DS3 is my favorite of the three. I love the pacing, how it is at the same time slow and weird with enemies swerving and having timings that aren't obvious.
I like the enemy variety, but there is something missing on level design itself. I guess they're not bad in themselves, but teleporting makes it all feel less relevant.
DS2's weapon durability would make the larger stretches between bonfires feel meaningful because you were either being forced to switch from your main weapon or waste repair powder that are rare enough to make you feel like you can't just waste it.

DS3 never makes me feel like "oh god please where is the next bonfire".
The stats increase less per level than the other games IIRC, so it makes sense. And I never felt that bonfires were far apart in DS2, maybe in the dlcs.
 

derFeef

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I am reading about a DS1 remaster again? I think it was the Steam forums where I read that first...
Hm. Why DS1? Why not Demon's? That would make much more sense with everything happening lately.
Should I stop my DS1 run? lol
 

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I'd also like to see a DeS remake rather than a DS1 remake. DS1 was my first Souls game and I love it, but I really really hate Demon Ruins, Lost Izalith, Catacombs and Tomb Of Giants. In my opinion the worst areas in the Souls game that I have played. Haven't played Demon's Souls yet.
 

Red Liquorice

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The Catacombs are one of my favourite areas in DS1. I always do them super early though, so they're more fun to me that way. it's also a great for pvp (invasions, not duels).
 

Ferrs

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I am reading about a DS1 remaster again? I think it was the Steam forums where I read that first...
Hm. Why DS1? Why not Demon's? That would make much more sense with everything happening lately.
Should I stop my DS1 run? lol

Demon's IP is owned by Sony. Dark Souls by Namco Bandai, so different people involved. Let's see if FROM even does the porting..
 

gosublime

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What I really want is something like the Metal Gear Solid Legacy collection - all games available on PS4, but with some remastered as well. One can but dream...
 

AlexCampy89

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I played and completed Bloodborne several times, unlocked all the endings and The only thing remaining are the chalice dungeons.

Are they worth it?
I.just completed a couple of them and they seem to be.a more of the same thingy. I know there are a couple of new bosses, but are they worth the effort?



Second question:

I never played any Dark Souls game, but I am scared by the slow paced combat.
In Bloodborne I always knew where to go, but the first Dark Souls seems to be more slow paced and dispersive than BB.
Do you suggest me to play them?
Is there a way to speed up combat animation and rhytm wise?
 
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I played and completed Bloodborne several times, unlocked all the endings and The only thing remaining are the chalice dungeons.

Are they worth it?
I.just completed a couple of them and they seem to be.a more of the same thingy. I know there are a couple of new bosses, but are they worth the effort?



Second question:

I never played any Dark Souls game, but I am scared by the slow paced combat.
In Bloodborne I always knew where to go, but the first Dark Souls seems to be more slow paced and dispersive than BB.
Do you suggest me to play them?
Is there a way to speed up combat animation and rhytm wise?
The dungeons have some really great and unique enemies and bosses I would recommend at least for you to do the main ones. I find them great when I just want to play the game but dont want to go through a ng+, when I want to play with a late game weapon.

For DS: 2 is by far the slowest and 3 is the fastest. You still can play quite fast, not BB level tho.

I would say playing like that kinda trivializes the first one even.
 

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So I'm guessing DS3 Embers are the equivalent of humanity? Just found me a perched dragon lambasting fools at the High Walls of Lothric, loving the art direction so much.

I'd also like to see a DeS remake rather than a DS1 remake. DS1 was my first Souls game and I love it, but I really really hate Demon Ruins, Lost Izalith, Catacombs and Tomb Of Giants. In my opinion the worst areas in the Souls game that I have played. Haven't played Demon's Souls yet.
Coincidently, I think those four are really strong and make for an incredibly fun second half.
 

Red Liquorice

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I played and completed Bloodborne several times, unlocked all the endings and The only thing remaining are the chalice dungeons.

Are they worth it?
I.just completed a couple of them and they seem to be.a more of the same thingy. I know there are a couple of new bosses, but are they worth the effort?



Second question:

I never played any Dark Souls game, but I am scared by the slow paced combat.
In Bloodborne I always knew where to go, but the first Dark Souls seems to be more slow paced and dispersive than BB.
Do you suggest me to play them?
Is there a way to speed up combat animation and rhytm wise?
1. If you just want to see the unique bosses and get to the end of them, follow the guide on fextralife(under Location) for how to reach the end boss, it cuts out everything unnecessary. (End boss spoilers in link). I think they're worth doing, at times they can be repetitive but some of the bosses are great (others are quite frustrating too - so much like the base game!)

2. As for the Dark Souls series, they're all great and share so much DNA with BB - If you want to play more like BB go shield-less and dodge and use a faster weapon maybe. DS3 is probably the fastest of the 3 in terms of movement and combat with DS2 falling far behind in that department as DaniThePinguim also says.
 

Ferrs

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I love the Chalice dungeons but goddamn they had to do something for dealing with them with multiple characters. There's to many of the obligatory ones it makes it a grind, especially for multiple characters. For a first run they're cool but still too many.
 

Luap

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Odin Sphere Leifthrasir*, Uncharted 4/Lost Legacy and Horizon make it worth it, too.

* Also if you don't have a PS3, the Dragon's Crown and The Last of Us remasters might be interesting.


Same. Though to be honest my PC is too old to run most newer PS4 games all that well, so that was worth it for that (until my bf bought his gaming PC not too long ago).

Stahhhhp. I just bought a house, I don't need to be spending money on consoles!
All those Horizon pics/gifs I've seen on GAF/ERA are so beautiful. It's gotta be one of the best looking games I've ever seen.

I had this feeling quite some time. Road of Sacrifices, Catacombs of Carthus, Cathedral of the Deep and especially Irithyll of the Boreal Valley gave me that feeling. I finally gave up on Irithyll of the Boreal Valley and didn't beat DS3 until today. For me this is the hardest area in any DS game. But I just bought DS3 again for my One X, looking forward to beat the area this time :)

Irithyll is absolutely brutal. Nothing so far in DS2 has even come close to being that hard. It's gorgeous though:

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Pascal

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Irithyll is absolutely brutal. Nothing so far in DS2 has even come close to being that hard. It's gorgeous though:

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Still think Irithyll is the most beautiful area in any Souls game. I looooove this aesthetic. And it's so refreshing after being stuck underground for hours to finally emerge to this view.
 

Luap

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Still think Irithyll is the most beautiful area in any Souls game. I looooove this aesthetic. And it's so refreshing after being stuck underground for hours to finally emerge to this view.

gorgeous view ahead
but be wary of monstrosity

I nearly shit my pants when crossing that bridge for the first time.
 

Pascal

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gorgeous view ahead
but be wary of monstrosity

I nearly shit my pants when crossing that bridge for the first time.
Yeah, me too and also
I nearly jumped out of my chair because of that huge spider looking motherfucker that hangs on the ceiling in the Deep Cathedral, waiting to ambush you.

Now that I think about it, Dark Souls 3 has some pretty strong enemy designs.
 

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You guys might want to tune into the Game Awards pre show for a surprise. Especially for those that have been complaining about radio silence this year.
 
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might as well ask here instead of starting a new thread:

It took me a few tries to get into DS. I ended up really enjoying the game with a +10 divine claymore, light armour, ninja-flipping with those lightning bolt miracles to soften guys up from a distance.

DS2 I blew through mostly co-oping through all the bosses. DS3 I didn't see to like.

I figured I would really like Bloodborne since I liked the fast movement build in DS but it's never clicked. I wanna give it a third go around (first one I gave up after the *horrid* loading times when it came out, second time I got through about 10 hours).

Are there any early tips to help buff me up? In DS I used the master key to run down below to grab Astora's Straight Sword and that Dragon Crest shield, which gave me high attack and a 100% block right away, then got the lightning miracle through the bridge dragon skip. So I was pretty set early on and could just kinda have fun.

With Bloodborne, man I always feel that *little* bit under powered. Dudes take a *little* bit too much to kill. Different game I know but any tips would be great. I just got to the first boss, picked the axe as my starting weapon since the range is nice and the slowness doesn't bug me.
 

Pendas

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might as well ask here instead of starting a new thread:

It took me a few tries to get into DS. I ended up really enjoying the game with a +10 divine claymore, light armour, ninja-flipping with those lightning bolt miracles to soften guys up from a distance.

DS2 I blew through mostly co-oping through all the bosses. DS3 I didn't see to like.

I figured I would really like Bloodborne since I liked the fast movement build in DS but it's never clicked. I wanna give it a third go around (first one I gave up after the *horrid* loading times when it came out, second time I got through about 10 hours).

Are there any early tips to help buff me up? In DS I used the master key to run down below to grab Astora's Straight Sword and that Dragon Crest shield, which gave me high attack and a 100% block right away, then got the lightning miracle through the bridge dragon skip. So I was pretty set early on and could just kinda have fun.

With Bloodborne, man I always feel that *little* bit under powered. Dudes take a *little* bit too much to kill. Different game I know but any tips would be great. I just got to the first boss, picked the axe as my starting weapon since the range is nice and the slowness doesn't bug me.

I can give you a few tips to make it "easier." But in reality I'm just spoiling the exploration aspect of the game and figuring things out for yourself.

1. Evenly level VIG (50) and END (40) then invest in either STR/SKL/ARC as your offensive stat, don't mix them your first playthrough. You will be severely gimped come end-game with no way of respeccing. Since you went Hunter Axe, I recommend STR.
2. In the first area, you can find enough blood shards to get a +2 Weapon. Use a Madman's Knowledge you find in the sewer area to gain One Insight, this will let you level-up before Cleric Beast. Also, if you explore the whole area you should end up with about 5 Oil Urns and 10 Molotov Cocktails, this is enough to nearly 100-0 Cleric Beast without ever getting in his auto attack range. Just make sure to land them and remember Oil Urns only increase the damage of your next Molotov. (Oil > Molo > Oil > Molo, etc.) You can also use the Music Box (talk to the windowsill above the sewer area) to stun Father Gascione 4 times. (3 Times as Human, 1 as Wereworlf) This will make both fights significantly easier.
From here on there isn't much you can do to cheese the game with a weapon / armor / spell that makes things trivial. It's basically nut up at this point. We can give you specific boss tips if you need them.
 
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Goldboy

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Been feeling really nostalgic towards Dark Souls lately. As much as I love the rest of the series, I really enjoyed that Lordran in Dark Souls really felt like another world you were exploring as opposed to a collection of levels. And even though the PvP was janky I miss messing around in Darkroot Garden and probably had more fun with the PvP there than anywhere else in the series.
 
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So excited for their next project, Project Beast was what made me discover Neogaf, I started lurking there because of the crazy thread of the leak. Man, I wonder if this gets leaked too.
AAAAAAh I want to know.
 

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Just finished Dark Souls II (SotFS).

Perhaps I'll make an LttP thread later, but for now, I'll just say that I think it had a really good idea with regards to its lore and its message by the end. However, the execution is really flawed- the levels themselves are by and large generic, and movement/combat is floaty. I'm also disappointed by the myriad gankfests, and the focus of the game on linear levels didn't pay off at all (DS1's approach was incomparably superior here).

The best new thing DSII brought to the table was probably powerstancing. I discovered it exists when I was 40-50 hours or so into the game and it changed everything (I went from using a Dragonrider Twinblade to a Royal Greatsword/Blacksteel Katana combo). The build versatility is really good and the only disappointing thing in this regard is that the game had very few compelling/uniquely designed mid-tier armors.

Favorite zone is probably Majula. If not Majula, than most likely Brume Tower, Frozen Eleum Loyce, or if I had to pick from the main game, Castle Drangleic, Heide's Tower of Flame (if only it were longer and not a minuscule T shaped corridor!) and Dragon Shrine.

As for bosses, that's tougher... Because I didn't like the vast majority of them. Sir Alonne was a pretty great fight and so was the Fume Knight. Can't knock the Burnt Ivory King, either. Ironic that a game so riddled with an overabundance of humanoid boss fights peaks only in those. Cannot recall a single fun non-humanoid boss battle. Najka and Freya did take a lot of tries, though. If we're talking non-DLC, I guess the answer is Looking Glass Knight (even though I was offine so I had to contend with only a Bell Keeper) or, just going by looks since I didn't bother to actually fight it, the Darklurker.

I forgot to slay Vendrick after getting the crowns and so didn't get to fight Aldia. The normal ending is pretty good, though it might have been just as well off without the narration, I liked the narration regardless. "Sovereign, take your throne." was a bit impactful. Eh. I'm glad I won't have to sink any more than the 103 hours I already did for this game (and that's just one run!- one of the highest amounts of time I've probably ever spent on a single game).

Very, very flawed game. Doesn't live up to DS1 in any way whatsoever.

I have a shit tier laptop, and no PS3 nor PS4 (at least, as of yet, I plan on getting one by next September, but I'll be going abroad for Uni. so that's gonna change things). So no Bloodborne/DSIII/DeS experience to compare, for me. Dying to play all of those three, regardless.
 

BLLYjoe25

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It is? I thought it was one of the easiest areas in the game.
might be easy for you and hard for others.

like in bloodborne everyone goes on about how Ludwig destroyed them but ime he was probably one of the easiest bosses in the entire game. I struggled with Blood starved beast in Bloodborne and a lot of people had no problem with it.

Irithyll for me wasn't too bad. That big thing that appeared gave me some bother on the bridge but I feel it was because I was fighting it on the bridge so didn't have much space. When I fought it later on it was pretty easy. Other than that...the only thing that stands out to me was fighting that guy that throws fire at you and I sucked at dealing with Pontiff but nothing crazy.
 

Syder

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might be easy for you and hard for others.

like in bloodborne everyone goes on about how Ludwig destroyed them but ime he was probably one of the easiest bosses in the entire game. I struggled with Blood starved beast in Bloodborne and a lot of people had no problem with it.

Irithyll for me wasn't too bad. That big thing that appeared gave me some bother on the bridge but I feel it was because I was fighting it on the bridge so didn't have much space. When I fought it later on it was pretty easy. Other than that...the only thing that stands out to me was fighting that guy that throws fire at you and I sucked at dealing with Pontiff but nothing crazy.
Maybe it just felt like a respite after the catacombs and smouldering lake.
 

Luap

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DS2 progress: Killed those goddamn Belfry Gargoyles after an infuriating death due to unresponsive controls. FromSoft why did you do this. If I wanted to play an action RPG with wonky controls I'd just play The Witcher 3.

Anyway, after that I went to Harvest Valley and found Galvan. Sold all my duplicate drops and that's where I decided to end my session because I was running late for work.

I've got enough VIT to wear the full Drangleic set + the greatsword and shield (with the help of the Royal Soldier's Ring) now, which is cool. The Drangleic (great)Sword and Great Lance are my 2 go-to weapons.
 

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Ok, after my unsuccessful DS3 adventures on PS4 I finally double dipped and bought it for my One X. I'm starting it either tonight or tomorrow. I'm looking forward to beat Irithyll of the Borreal Valley this time.
 

Luap

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Man it's so embarrassing when you get invaded and almost immediately after the fight starts you roll off a cliff by accident.
 

Van Bur3n

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Coming back to it now, I realize just how much I don't like Ornstein and Smough, if not solely for Ornstein's janky nature during the first phase. The asshole will just zoom around as if he is doing his charge attack, stop when he is at an angle where he can't charge at you, and then suddenly go back into a charge animation once you're back in his sights. I get it, the game is old, but it's still annoying. I enjoy fighting either one of them by themselves though.

Also, R2ing something with the great club is satisfying as fuck as they're pancaked and become one with the concrete. Smashed Petrus in with one hit and it was hilarious.
 
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Coming back to it now, I realize just how much I don't like Ornstein and Smough, if not solely for Ornstein's janky nature during the first phase. The asshole will just zoom around as if he is doing his charge attack, stop when he is at an angle where he can't charge at you, and then suddenly go back into a charge animation once you're back in his sights. I get it, the game is old, but it's still annoying. I enjoy fighting either one of them by themselves though.

Also, R2ing something with the great club is satisfying as fuck as they're pancaked and become one with the concrete. Smashed Petrus in with one hit and it was hilarious.
Good boss fight but I agree. Hate that janky shit with dashing around that you described, that and when the spear goes all the way through a pillar and hits you.

I think my favorite boss fight from the first game is Manus, and that is almost like a BB boss lmao. Thinking back the DLC was really a BB preview. Much more agressive enemies and bosses, Marvellous Chester straight up dashing around.
 

Reven Wolf

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Just lost all my save data on PC so have to restart my ds2 run :/ was going through it with a good friend through so building strike damage build and I'm going to reach back to the dlc zones within 5 hours hopefully.
 

Pendas

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Just lost all my save data on PC so have to restart my ds2 run :/ was going through it with a good friend through so building strike damage build and I'm going to reach back to the dlc zones within 5 hours hopefully.

This happened to me on my Dark Souls 3 save, I was in The Ringed City on the way to the last boss when my PC crashed and lost my save. I feel your pain. Didn't take me long to get back though, should be the same for you.
 

Reven Wolf

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This happened to me on my Dark Souls 3 save, I was in The Ringed City on the way to the last boss when my PC crashed and lost my save. I feel your pain. Didn't take me long to get back though, should be the same for you.

Yeah in less than 1.5 hours I was past the Bastille, so I estimate in a few more I should make it. It helps that replaying souls games is always fun.
 

FinalSeven

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Finally got the platinum trophy for Dark Souls III last night. Farming for those vertebra shackles really sucked.
 

Lux86

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So, i just beat Lady Maria for the first time and i want to share my thoughts.
She is a cool character and i loved the level before her (not the boss before her honestly), however i was very curious of this fight because i heard a lot of comparisons with Friede. I must say, she's not Friede at all. I mean, the fight was a lot easier, mostly due to parries and the fact that my silver sword staggered her frequently. To be fair, there aren't pistol parries in dark souls 3 but you can equip a good tower shield to make the fight easier, however you have to invest a lot in some stats, while you can use a pistol every time in BB.
I'm not criticising the fight itself, it is good and i had fun, but i have to say that i think Friede is a much better (and difficult) boss overall. (there is a general "parry problem" in every hunter fight in BB)

Side note: the fishing hamlet is a dream for a lovecraft fan like me. Amazing.
 

Jombie

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So, i just beat Lady Maria for the first time and i want to share my thoughts.
She is a cool character and i loved the level before her (not the boss before her honestly), however i was very curious of this fight because i heard a lot of comparisons with Friede. I must say, she's not Friede at all. I mean, the fight was a lot easier, mostly due to parries and the fact that my silver sword staggered her frequently. To be fair, there aren't pistol parries in dark souls 3 but you can equip a good tower shield to make the fight easier, however you have to invest a lot in some stats, while you can use a pistol every time in BB.
I'm not criticising the fight itself, it is good and i had fun, but i have to say that i think Friede is a much better (and difficult) boss overall. (there is a general "parry problem" in every hunter fight in BB)

Side note: the fishing hamlet is a dream for a lovecraft fan like me. Amazing.

I love Maria, but I agree she's far too easy to chain stun and parry. You can literally back her into a corner and hit her until your stamina drains, it can trivialize the fight.

Anyone know if the rumors of a DS1 remaster have any merit? Beyond the tweet by the Bamco guy?
 
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Just finished Dark Souls 2 a few months ago, I have played and beat 3, so far besides BloodBorne, it is my favorite of the Souls games.

I will be playing Dark Souls on my PC soon, so we will see where that one ends up.

Is there anyway to make the game look better on PC? Does it play in 4k, with mods or anything?