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Prediction - Google will reveal a cheap streaming only device tomorrow and era will wrongly assume its a failing business model
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Where did you source this fact? I know the trial was app based, but do you have confirmation that it'll be a TV app?
Discless does not equal streaming. There are rumors that MS is looking into streaming but it isn't a reality yet.
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Read the article below.
https://kotaku.com/heres-what-were-hearing-about-googles-plans-for-gaming-1833389082
They got it from here but thing is Project Stream works with chrome which now has support for Xbox and switch controllers. Every smart TV / box has some sort of webview but Apple TV. Not to mention chromecast.
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I'm actually interested if the digital-only people are interested in streaming.
I mean, streaming offers all the advantages of digital-only, and even more like instant game times, instant access to the game servers, no super expensive hardware buy-in, and no limitation on local storage, nor even a need for a big console taking up space in their living room (much like those "ugly" game cases I see loathed so much).
Streaming is a long way off and a streaming only console simply will not work. Even a digital only console would be a big risk. The worst thing about a streaming only console though? When your internet cuts out, it's nothing but a paper weight.
People are willing to take a big hit to image quality for streaming. It seems like a viable avenue for budget gamers and with all the f2p titles that are popular with younger gamers getting to stream and play something like Fortnite in "4K" for a low price would be very appealing.
I gave the Google stream beta a try and Assassin's Creed was perfectly playable. If that's the quality to expect for the Google console it could carve out a very big spot in this and the next gen.
if it's only streaming it will be hard to sell those devices in game stores because it's against their business.
Sony, Nintendo are the most companies are depending on those store in order to sell their devices.
yes, there is Amazon and eBay but it's not enough.
if it's not sold in any video game store people will not consider it as a gaming device.
+ it's just a phase... soon you will see it as a normal device that is not even compared to PlayStation or Nintendo or XBOX.
Yes, Google is a big company but they need to fix the products that are in their google play. other than that it will be cheap, not worth your money.
Sony, Nintendo are the most companies are depending on those store in order to sell their devices.
yes, there is Amazon and eBay but it's not enough.
if it's not sold in any video game store people will not consider it as a gaming device.
+ it's just a phase... soon you will see it as a normal device that is not even compared to PlayStation or Nintendo or XBOX.
Yes, Google is a big company but they need to fix the products that are in their google play. other than that it will be cheap, not worth your money.
If they can get Windows to run in a browser, then they can surely get Xbox Games to also run in a browser and in a cheap streaming stick.
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Yes but you are hypothetically speaking. Google's is reality according to Kotaku
We don't know enough about XCloud yet, so I expect more details about XCloud at GDC. However it wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft also made a browser version of XCloud.
My question is:
Why does it cost 100$ for a device to only receive and send inputdata?
Isn't such a service meant to be able to run on nearly any device possible?
Why does it cost 100$ for a device to only receive and send inputdata?
Isn't such a service meant to be able to run on nearly any device possible?
But isn't the controller optional? Didn't the rumors say that you could also just use an XBOX pad?
I mean if a controller is included, that price would make sense but otherwise... eh?
Well yeah. Some people even said that the console is the controller and it doesn't even require a dongle. The only way I could see that working is via Miracast, but I have my doubts on how lagless that would be. Anyway, I was initially interested in this whole thing, but the more i read it is streaming only the more I am going to pretend it does not exist.
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No one said it costs $100. We won't know until tomorrow but it sounds like all you need is chrome with no specific hardware.
Like I said. Hypothetical. We know more about Google's at this point.
Yes but Sony + ms will presumably have there streaming everywhere too.
I'm just thinking why would they play fortnite, fifa etc on Google streaming over xcloud or PSNow?
Streaming being inevitable doesn't mean that other ways to play don't exist or it's a "perfect scenario" for majority of people. Streaming has been here for actual usage for years with PSNow (as nib95 stated) but now there will be more players and Google is one that I know the technology works really well after testing it. It doesn't matter if streaming takes over physical or not, it being a viable option is what really matters hence my initial statement of it being inevitable.
Content, and pricing is what I'm looking forward to the most (especially pricing) as that is going to be the most telling of things.
Uhm...Project xCloud isn't a rumor...
When certain parts of America have data caps, areas where high speed internet is dsl.. Etc.. You'd be surprised just how ridiculously behind America is compared to the rest of the world in regards to its high speed offerings... How much data is used monthly on a streaming only device?
I mean, if it's anything like Chromecast, it will be available everywhere.
I see Chromecasts in grocery stores lol.
I predict it will be a failing business model because it's a google product, not because it's a streaming console.
They have a hard time maintaining services/products they release constantly.
They have a hard time maintaining services/products they release constantly.
I don't trust google to support a device ever. They love silently axing projects and telling no one. Also bandwidth caps and latency exists.
It's doomed to fail.
It's doomed to fail.
I totally do not want to ever use streaming. It is anti-thetical to how I enjoy games to be honest.
Just like how I never ever get the desire to play games on the go.
Just like how I never ever get the desire to play games on the go.
RIP Google Reader, Google Voice, Google Stock Portfolio, Google Offers, and soon Google Inbox. You are all too good for this world. I missed you so much. Hell Google Plus had its use before they spun Google Photo out of it.
Mmmm, love it when people say how streaming's great and works flawlessly on their 200mb+ connection. Here in the UK even on fibre most people will be lucky to get between 20-30mb.
I think it's definitely the future. Is it Google's future though? I'm not convinced. Unless they've been working incredibly secretively they're only going to have titles that have been released elsewhere for a good long while. In terms of quality exclusives you're looking at least a couple of years down the line when the likes of Sony & MS will have likely moved into streaming more aggressively. If those two manufacturers stick/adopt Sony's system of having a subscription service that lets you stream or download then that's a huge plus point over a streaming only system.
I think it's definitely the future. Is it Google's future though? I'm not convinced. Unless they've been working incredibly secretively they're only going to have titles that have been released elsewhere for a good long while. In terms of quality exclusives you're looking at least a couple of years down the line when the likes of Sony & MS will have likely moved into streaming more aggressively. If those two manufacturers stick/adopt Sony's system of having a subscription service that lets you stream or download then that's a huge plus point over a streaming only system.
Hah! Try every single rural individual and a majority of people even in urban centres outside of the United States.
I live in a rural area of Canada. My internet is, at best, 5-7Mbps with a 200gb bandwidth cap. I pay close to $100/mo for this privilege.
Even in city centres in Canada 50Mbps is not the norm, most packages for internet are in the 25Mbps ballpark with 300-500gb bandwidth caps.
Like everything else Google makes, this will more than likely be focused on major urban centres of the United States, and that fucking sucks for the rest of the world.
Is streaming the future? I sure as hell hope not. It's not ready, the infrastructure isn't ready, and the majority of people not living in major cities in the United States aren't ready.
If it's streaming only, I hope it fails miserably.
That may be but the Op was insisting on the console as point of discussion.
Anyway I'd argue content (and pricing) matters more than the service, as demonstrated by other similar services that already exist(ed) for roughly a decade. I don't think whether or not this is accessible from a web-browser will be any sort of differentiator.
Same applies to a "normal" console when the power goes out. And that happens as frequently as the internet blacks out LOL.
And why is a digital only console a risk?
People are just downplaying this, for the sake of their own argument.
Appreciate it, sorry for the super long reply... I realized most of the way through, like "oh shit... this is 10 paragraphs..."
I don't think it will fail because it's a streaming console. I think it will fail if that is the case because I don't think it will sell well enough for Google to keep support for the platform and will drop it like the countless other projects Google has pushed on the consumer over the years.
I think you are kind of overestimating the amount of people who will buy into a streaming console even with the marketing push from Google it will do alright at best imo.
I think you are kind of overestimating the amount of people who will buy into a streaming console even with the marketing push from Google it will do alright at best imo.
I honestly don't think the United States is ready for the majority of people to stream their video games. Internet speeds are just aren't fast enough. I could see this possibly taking off in Europe and Japan where ISPs aren't still using tech from the late 90s/early 00s to connect people.
It's the future for sure, but going all in on streaming probably isn't a good idea. Microsoft (allegedly) has it right with their two Xbox model, while Sony already has PSNow.
It's the future for sure, but going all in on streaming probably isn't a good idea. Microsoft (allegedly) has it right with their two Xbox model, while Sony already has PSNow.
It's a Google product that doesn't have a clear data collection component. It doesn't matter whether it succeeds or fails, Google's going to shut it down abruptly one day either way.
The failing business model part is not just because of lack of broadband coverage...Hardware wise it just doesnt make a whole lot of sense.
No, but I was on board with the original plans for the Xbox One. All of the digital stuff, sounded awesome to me.Is that you Adam Orth?
The outrage was very stupid, but they did announce this stuff way too early as people were not ready.
Now they are.